The After Life _what's On The Other Side?

Discussion in 'Suicidal Thoughts and Feelings' started by sudut, Oct 30, 2007.

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  1. sudut

    sudut Well-Known Member

    any thoughts? . Please do not EVEN mention the word RELIGION on any of your replies. Religion brings wars, we need help; not wars.
  2. ~PinkElephants~

    ~PinkElephants~ Senior member

    You expect ppl to reply but don't want them to voice their opinions which might or might not include religion...that's kind of close minded in my opinion.

    My answer...there is no after are in a box, 6ft under, rotting away. Sorry those are my thoughts on that topic.
  3. Trip the Dark fantastic

    Trip the Dark fantastic Well-Known Member

    don't kid yourself by trying to keep religion out of the issue of an' After-life'.
    By definition it is religion who provides the specialist, explaining and promising you a vision of 'the After'.

    To say 'keep religion out of a discussion, whether there is a life after death' is like asking 'why does Dumbledore not seduce Frodo, move in with Yoda and create a Ménage à trois...' Is not going to happen.

    As you rightly, but somewhat very naively declare
    A battle-cry, you could have shouted throughout the existence of humankind...

  4. Terry

    Terry Antiquities Friend Staff Alumni

    My grandmother was a spiritualist, so I grew up in a house where seances and the like were an everyday affair.
    I have to say, I saw and heard too many inexplicable things to not now believe that we continue on.
    This was further inforced by listening to some of my patients stories of near death experiences.
  5. Aaron

    Aaron Well-Known Member

    Religion doesn't bring wars,people do....under it's guise.

    I'm with Terry,we continue on after physical's the next part of the journey.
  6. Trip the Dark fantastic

    Trip the Dark fantastic Well-Known Member

    Well, people don't bring war...its their upbringing and education which does. Are you a Hippy or a Marine, are you pacifist or a neo-conservative fire-brand politician (only examples mind you). We could go down into the infinitive small -which neuron pathways trigger the aggression part of our brain? Whats the statistical evidence of nurture versus nature in relation to people pro/contra war? But that would be very anorak, I think.

    Life after death? I'm not sure how important this question is in my life right now. Lets say, 'Its life Jim, but not as we now it' (startrek quotation)...:biggrin:

  7. Aaron

    Aaron Well-Known Member

    Wars are fought on political and economic basis/factors they are about power and wealth,planned by the few and (fought by the many) with absolutely no regard for humanity as a whole(though propaganda and misinformation will tell us different)countries carved up,millions displaced,hunger and starvation and death for the innocents caught in the middle....the ends justify the means...people do bring war,cold hearted and cold blooded.
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  8. Trip the Dark fantastic

    Trip the Dark fantastic Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that...war was always a bit of a mystery to me,:rolleyes: especially where these cold hearted and cold blooded people acquired their cold and blooded heart in the first place...:biggrin: must have been something in the water???:wink: but enough history for today. Lets talk ghost, afterlife and Halloween...

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  9. Blackness

    Blackness Guest

    thats a very interesting site

    I want a NDE now!
  10. Darken

    Darken Well-Known Member

    how do we know nde are not just a dream people have when they are close to death.
  11. theshark1019

    theshark1019 Member

    this topic is a nice change of pace from the other ones. But its pointless. We're all alive so how can we know, or know what to think about what lies beyond death. NDEs are just how some people cope with their mortality when they're faced with death.
  12. Xian

    Xian Well-Known Member

    whatever you believe happens it doesn't matter because there is zero chance of disappointment. even if nothing happens, you'll never know that nothing happens. the only way you'd know anything is if something happens. and for that reason among many others a lot of people believe including myself.
  13. Hatemylife88

    Hatemylife88 Well-Known Member

    I want a DE
  14. wallflower

    wallflower Well-Known Member

    I think there is definately something special. I was thinking the other day, we humankind have depended upon evolution to keep us as a race going, and what is the most important aspect of human evolution? It's the conciousness. We're here to help the world, and the world in turn to help us. So if we've evolved to have these brains which die....well all animals and people and insects share the same common evolutionary trait- they're trying to survive. Yes, they're all trying to survive and continue on. So if humankind is going to survive, then we have to continue on somehow. But since we are so weak- in ways. Since we are so emotional, it only makes sense that we should evolve to have our conciousness as souls. that continue on forever and forever. That's my insight- and i didn't even mention God.
  15. RySp123

    RySp123 Guest

    At this point I could care less about NDE. You might wonder when you have a life ahead of you and it is all natural to wonder-dream etc.... but you know your ending in this life is closed by that's the last thing on your mind. As of in the past..... I've wondered since we are 'energy' where this energy goes? How will be processed that energy? We can hypotize forever..... none will have an answer and when answer we will have (sorta) we wont be able to share our discovery with no one..... so pointless wondering. Call this energy whatever you like.... energy, sould etc... we will rot and dust will become for the rest..... out of our hands.
  16. Maaf

    Maaf Member

    Hate to break it to you but nothing exists on the "other side". You're corpse will rot and so will you're brain cells. Stop dreaming. Just as Darken says NDE are just dreams.
  17. jryan3434

    jryan3434 Active Member

    Trip the dark fantastic-

    Do you really think that war is due to society's corruption of some innocent and pure nature that we are born with? Sorry but that sounds incredibly naive. Have you ever been a child? Have you never seen young boys carrying out mock warfare in the form of group bullying, fighting, humiliating, ect.? If you think that kids are born sweet and innocent then you must have been home schooled. People are born with a killer instinct, and a lust for power. Warfare is in our genes to help us survive and procure mates and resources.

    Chimpanzees, our closest living relatives, engage in warfare, murder and assasination. They somehow manage to do it without religion or political indoctrination. Male chimpanzees have been known to venture out in war parties where they systematically murder every member of a nearby troop, often mutilating the corpses and ripping off their genitals. They have even been observed smashing prostrate enemies with rocks. They do not eat the slain chimps. It is hypothesized that they do it primarily to gain additional territory and resources, especially in times of resource scarcity. They also engage in group assasinations of their own troop leaders, usually to achieve greater access to females and food.

    The political and religious movements that accompany warfare in humans are just a more complex way of carrying out our base instincts that are present in chimps. People still go to war primarily for resources and mating oppurtunities, they just use religion or political ideals to justify their aims. The base instincts are the same. Religion may sometimes serve as an excuse to justify the war instinct, but it has been used to supress it just as often.

    Almost every human society in history has engaged in warfare, including atheistic ones like communist Russia and China. Warfare and agression is ingrained in human nature no less than the sexual drive. In some cases people can surpress the sexual drive, just like they can repress the war instinct. In rich and secure societies this is easy to do, just like it is easy for some males to become priests when they aren't getting laid anyway. The instinct is always there however, and given the right circumstances everyone is capable of killing, and sometimes it is necessary for survival.
  18. ShalenaM

    ShalenaM Well-Known Member

    I Believe In Heaven And Hell.

    I Guess Im Going To Hell.
  19. Aaron

    Aaron Well-Known Member

    We'll all find out soon enough.
  20. klodo

    klodo Well-Known Member

    I know enough people with direct contact with ghosts to not believe that we always just cease to be but I don't believe that it has much to do with God or religion.I cant imagine much worse than to be stuck in a limbo world on earth in a state of constant anxiety or fear. I have dreams where I am stuck like that and the feeling is the worst I have known.
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