What always got my attention was when people say something along the lines of "I stay alive for my children/family etc." - now I happen to have ended up in a situation in which I live alone, having had to abandon my family due to abuse, and since my life always had these chaotic vicissitudes of nonsense and dysfunctionality I barely have any acquaintances, much less lifelong close friends. I have no one and nothing to live for, and I often feel apathetic towards any risks, although so far none have proved to be fatal. So, if I decide to be consistent and rational according to how many people feel... then surely hanging on to life is idiotic, right? In fact, many try to dissuade suicidal people by telling them that it will be hard on their family and friends... but if one has none, then by that logic is suicide the ideal option? Just idle thoughts on my mind.