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The Urge to End It

Discussion in 'Opinions, Beliefs, & Points of View' started by Kate., Jul 6, 2008.

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  1. Kate.

    Kate. Member


    "Animating their efforts is one of the most peculiar — in fact, downright perverse — aspects to the premeditation-versus-passion dichotomy in suicide. Put simply, those methods that require forethought or exertion on the actor’s part (taking an overdose of pills, say, or cutting your wrists), and thus most strongly suggest premeditation, happen to be the methods with the least chance of “success.” Conversely, those methods that require the least effort or planning (shooting yourself, jumping from a precipice) happen to be the deadliest. The natural inference, then, is that the person who best fits the classic definition of “being suicidal” might actually be safer than one acting in the heat of the moment — at least 40 times safer in the case of someone opting for an overdose of pills over shooting himself."

    "In a 2001 University of Houston study of 153 survivors of nearly lethal attempts between the ages of 13 and 34, only 13 percent reported having contemplated their act for eight hours or longer. To the contrary, 70 percent set the interval between deciding to kill themselves and acting at less than an hour, including an astonishing 24 percent who pegged the interval at less than five minutes."

    Perhaps it would be a little consolation for you all to know that many of us SF members, "premeditators," are also far less likely to actually die on our own account than someone who has decided to kill himself mere hours or even minutes before a suicidal act.

    I think it's also ironic that, as the article suggests, people who are impulsive and more likely to use more lethal means such as guns and jumping are probably more likely to regret their decision if they survive. But those of us who think this over, who dream and fantasize about our deaths-- we will more likely survive when we would rather have died.
  2. AlexDanish

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    Your link takes me to a lawn-chair balloon article. It was actually very enjoyable, but the wrong one I think :laugh:

    I think that people who are depressed for a long time, when they try to end it and survive, they still prefer to die, because they're still depressed, and a suicide attempt never changes that. People who do it on impulse, I guess aren't depressed for as long. I guess they wake up and see the people around them who care and don't want to die. It's all situational I guess.
  3. Issaccs

    Issaccs Well-Known Member

    I don't know what to make of it, I think its a little silly to suggest people who premeditate it are less likely to die because you can't ask someone who's gone and taken a .45 caliber aspirin to the nogin how long they were planning it before hand.
    It isn't as though every premediated attempt is an overdose and every "spur of the moment" (As if someone wakes up one morning and says I'm gonna kill myself to see how it feels) is a gunshot.
  4. Kate.

    Kate. Member

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