The world is part of the problem...

Discussion in 'I Have a Question...' started by thepainwithin, Dec 10, 2011.

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  1. thepainwithin

    thepainwithin Well-Known Member

    and the worst part is, there is nothing I can do about it. We're stuck with what we have, and what we have really saddens me. The stress of school is getting to me, I'm sick of the exams, but it's something I have to do if I want to get a job and be successful. But I don't know if I even want a job. Something doesn't seem right about being forced to go to school until you graduate, then you're expected to go to college and work until retirement age, which was supposed to be a few years before you die. Doesn't that sound depressing? Working you're whole life away just so you can have ~5 years of retirement? But I have to graduate college, I have to get a job... I have to work until retirement, everyday, of every year, for the next 40+ years.

    I also see our world slipping away, in the headlines, on TV. I thought protesting was as American as apple pie. So why is the Government's only response to protesting arresting the protestors? They beat them senselessly with batons, they pepper spray them, they haul them away in handcuffs... for demanding to be heard? We glorify protests in the history books; the Boston Tea Party, Rosa Parks, the Civil Rights Movement, hell even the Revolutionary War was a protest. But now the mainstream media calls protestors terrorists, unAmerican, they say they don't care about our country. I might not know much about what their protesting for, but I know that they do care about our country for them to give up a part of themselves for change, and there are better solutions that such arresting them.

    I also hate the Internet and the TV, and I hate how popular they've become. Like ya, Facebook was cool when it was just my friends, but once it started becoming a family place, it got so disgustingly politically correct. What makes me sadder than that is that people complain about their privacy on the Internet and then use Facebook. When I started using the Internet in 1998, I was 8 years old. People were too afraid to give out their last first and last name on AOL. And now people post everything from the name, phone numbers, city, high school, place of work, without even thinking about it, and then they get mad when they read of story of someone's identity being stolen over Facebook. Well, when you publicly gave your information to about 2000 of your closest acquaintances and everyone you've ever met at a party, and friended on facebook, what did you expect? Not to mention Facebook and Google, as well as other websites, mine your information to be sold so you can be specifically advertised to. Which makes me remember how much more I hate the Internet because advertisers have found a way to cram an ad into every unused pixel of a website. I just have to say one more thing: when I sat in front of the computer for hours a day playing games, I was a nerd, even if it was 39 other people raiding on WoW. But for some reason, because the game is Farmville, and you are doing it on a "social" media website, all of the sudden you are being social, and that's considered cool? Now where's the justice in that. At least I wasn't growing a virtual farm... Everyday more and more people lose their job, their reputation, and their self-esteem because people take things they post out of context. 90% of communication is visual or subconscious cues, 140 written letters could never fully convey a message. But good thing all of these websites sold out to advertisers. Now we're tracked, monitored. Every commercial has a "follow us on facebook or twitter" message, which attracted people to Facebook who wouldn't never in a million years used it.

    It might sound like a rant. But I don't know what this world is coming to. I saw a headline today of a girl in a library trying to study for finals lose her temper because people were talking (I was studying the other day at the library, and when a table of 4 people wouldn't stop whispering in a quiet study area, I almost lost my temper, too). But these girls kept provoking this girl into getting mad. And they video taped it! All so they could post it online and have people feed their ego by posting comments or pressing a "thumbs up" button. So this is what we've become. A group of a people with camera phones waiting for anyone to slip up so we can catch their misfortunes and share it with the world so people can laugh at it.

    And the media reports anything they can make a buck off of.

    And I'm sure those little boys Sandusky molested love the constant media reminder. But at least advertisers and the media could profit of child molestation. I guess there's a dollar to be found everywhere.
  2. gloomy

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    I agree the media is a pretty insidious thing-- they want to create a sense of urgency in order to get you to keep reading.
    And the Internet does seem to really bring out the nastiness in people.

    But luckily, there's more to the world than just that stuff, you just need to look elsewhere.
  3. ExtraSoap

    ExtraSoap Well-Known Member

    A) I agree with you about the gov't being shitheads and arresting protesters, but keep this in mind: what they are protesting for is essentially socialism. They want free handouts and everyone to "be equal." We all know it's not gonna happen, and I refuse to watch America be taken over by a bunch of whining socialists.

    B) Yeah, the world sucks, you be a desk jockey for 40+ years and then they basically tell you to piss off. I hate it too.
  4. 1Lefty

    1Lefty Well-Known Member

    What did Dylan say? "Twenty years of schoolin' and they put you put you on the day shift"

    Actually, arrests, beatings, tear gas, fire hoses, were used on protesters in the civil rights movement. Death was not uncommon. Likewise, the anti-war protests of the Viet Nam war, peaceful sit-ins and demonstrations were turned violent when the police and National Guard got involved.

    And there really is a lot about the world to marvel at, that inspires awe and wonder, that reminds that humanity can be thoughtful and compassionate, too.
  5. gloomy

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    I used to think this too, but it's actually not the case.

    First of all, socialism isn't about getting 'free handouts'-- or it shouldn't be, anyways. It's about redefining the value of a person's contribution to society. Teachers, when they're effective, are invaluable to society… they inspire young people, they help them understand society, they help them believe in themselves.. and yet, they get paid peanuts. Firemen save lives, but NBA players get more money for throwing a ball through a metal ring. Is that fair? And a lot of the 'lower class' jobs are often pretty demanding-- working at MacDonald's can be extremely draining, and yet those people are paid peanuts while advertisers, which is still hard work but which one could even argue actually contributes less to or even corrupts society, can make millions. There's a huge stigma placed on lower class jobs by this, and that stigma shouldn't exist.

    Many of the protesters have jobs-- actually, the majority do… look it up. They're just unhappy because they're not being paid as much as they should be for doing them, they're not being given job security, and college kids are being forced to hand over thousands of dollars that they don't even have to train themselves so that the people who have money can pick and choose whoever they want from the herd. In theory, the best and brightest should rise to the top but in many cases most of the graduates are equally competent and equally capable, so the ones who end up with a job do so because of networking, nepotism, aggressiveness, etc… and those same people who managed to climb to the top end up having more influence over political decisions-- especially when low taxes mean that the government is weak and needy and can't make the country run on its own.

    I agree that some of the demands are ludicrous and it's a shame that the people who are making them are getting the most attention. But you still need to guarantee people at least a basic standard quality of life in order to prevent the kind of waste that you get in a capitalist society-- where people end up not having jobs, not having ways to provide themselves with a decent quality of living, losing their cars and their ability to get to their workplaces, and eventually end up depending on social programs to help them. Trust me, being poor is horrible… because once you're poor and in debt, the entire system makes it basically impossible to climb out of the hole… which then of course leads them being sick, which then means they're in the hospital or prison, placing an even bigger drain on society…

    I also want to say that I know that it doesn't really matter how much you pay people… as long as you're taking care of their basic needs, they will perform. In many ways, they'll actually outperform people who get paid heaps of money. But when someone is down, they tend to stay down. You can actually see that pattern on this site-- depressed people getting more depressed, angry people getting angrier… until, of course, someone intervenes and gives them a little boost in their mood. It's the most basic pattern among living things that exists in nature, actually-- if you demonstrate that you actually care for something, and provide it with its basic needs (and I don't mean money, I mean basic things like a home, food, and a sense of purpose), then it will grow. Throwing money at someone doesn't make them work harder, though it may make them feel more entitled. Depriving people of their basic needs however, only serves to create more problems that taxpayers will have to deal with.

    So yeah, that's my rant for today.
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  6. HawthornePassage

    HawthornePassage Well-Known Member

    everyone wants to blame the person, since its so much easier to just call some 'fringe' people diseased than to actually admit the world is messed up. mostly because admitting that is admitting your worldview was wrong and is very jarring/depressing to most people. it also induces hopelessness since most people would have no idea what to actually do if they admitted it, the thing is, if enough people were honest about the way the world is, it would be different. yet again, a hilarious irony
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