Took a survey on suicide among my acquaintances

Discussion in 'Suicidal Thoughts and Feelings' started by justadude84, Aug 29, 2010.

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  1. justadude84

    justadude84 Member

    I sent a text to 10 phone contacts asking if they thought suicide was morally wrong. All ten said yes. They didn't even consider the different hypothetical situations. I am surprised my contacts are so close-minded. We all should want to be productive citizens. But I think anyone over 18 should be able to ask their physician for a lethal dose of medication that would end his/her life if they do not fill capable of contributing to society. Its a certain, easy and painless death. How could a rational individual disagree? Thanks for your thoughts.
  2. flyingdutchmen

    flyingdutchmen Well-Known Member

    Serious, would you tell your honest opinion if a friend of yours or even some total stranger would ask you that very same question as a text mesage ? Would someone healthy who never thought about suicide even consider asking that question ? Did you realy expect something different ? May i suggest you take their ansers with a grain of salt.

    Imho you could recieve a more honest anser if you where having a decent conversation with someone and then the topic suicide suddenly comes up because you/he/she just read in the newspaper that someone toke his own life, fwiw, i think i would have give you the same asner as they did if this question pops up on my phone or mail
  3. justadude84

    justadude84 Member

    flyingdutchmen - It's not like I asked if they had any stds. Adults should feel comfortable and confident in their beliefs. If I ask someone their opinion on abortion, gay marriage, or capital punishment I expect to get an honest answer. It's 2010! No more taboos.
  4. flyingdutchmen

    flyingdutchmen Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but as long as i am not aware what will be done with the information given by me i will not take the responsebility to give an honest anser ( TO A TEXT MESAGE )

    Gay marriage or capital punishment does not take lives.

    Did you serious expect an honest anser ?

    if i would be asked under different circumstances, i might give you an different anser
  5. justadude84

    justadude84 Member

    Yes, I expected an honest answer but I understand your point-of-view. Capital punishment aka the death penalty does end lives.
  6. flyingdutchmen

    flyingdutchmen Well-Known Member

    Sorry yes i wasnt aware about that one, english isnt my native language
    But like i said, i can only give you my view as someone who currently does not (anymore) have suicidal feelings,
    and wenn given to me this question as a text mesage it might not be the truth which you will recieve from me
    Lets see how others will response to this
  7. TWF

    TWF Well-Known Member

    It all depends on your viewpoint. I personally believe my death could be a good thing as it would help combat overpopulation.

    But most individuals take the extremely common viewpoint: It causes pain and sorrow to loved ones, so it's wrong.

    I'd estimate 10/10 of your contacts strongly hold the latter viewpoint, based on no figures whatsoever, just guesswork.
  8. justadude84

    justadude84 Member

    TWF - You're spot-on. All the responses included "it's selfish and will only hurt fam and friends" or " it's cowardly". I was shocked at the ignorance.
  9. TWF

    TWF Well-Known Member

    They've probably never been strongly suicidal so I'm not surprised. None-suicidals tend to look at the ones who are left behind rather than the victim.

    It could go both ways though, the suicidal could be viewed as selfish for ending it and causing sorrow for those left behind, or the family could be selfish for forcing the suicidal to live. I'm tied between the 2...
  10. flowingriver

    flowingriver Well-Known Member

    I will join your 10 friends in saying that suicide is morally unacceptable. It is the taking of human life. It cheapens human life. We can't make human life so dispensable. Human life is sacred.
  11. justadude84

    justadude84 Member

    When you say "sacred" I assume you are suggesting all humans have a religious purpose or are holy beings. You would consider a serial rapist to be holy. You don't think Bill Gates has a true purpose because he's agnostic and Microsoft is not a religious software.

    IMO, suicide does not cheapen (degrade or make vulgar) life. Soldiers who throw their bodies on a a grenade are honorable. Another example - some feel pornography cheapens sex. Others think it enhances it. Do you get it? It seems you're the type that prefers quantity over quality. I don't subscribe to that logic.
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  12. Dave_N

    Dave_N Banned Member

    Also remember, that doctors take an oath saying that they will act in the best interest of their patients even if their patients are not mentally capable. Doctors can't give you a lethal dose of any medication or else they will face criminal charges. Also, not everyone in a society must be a contributing member of that society. This is why we pay taxes, so that people who are unable to work due to disability, old age or mental illness can receive a pension and still be able to live. Legalizing suicide will never happen, because it will reduce the value of human life.
  13. Robin

    Robin Guest

    And what would you believe if you was content and not suicidal?
  14. justadude84

    justadude84 Member

    I'm sure there were people in 1973 (when Roe v Wade was decided) saying abortions reduce the value of human life. I know this is a pro-life forum but lets be rational.
  15. justadude84

    justadude84 Member

    Robin, you insult my intelligence. To assume that I support suicide just because I have suicidal thoughts is just wrong. I'm a straight male but I support gay marriage. I don't take sides for self-benefit.
  16. Robin

    Robin Guest

    For all intensive purposes I have no way to believe otherwise, I just wanted to put it out there for you but if there's one thing folk do better than lie to others it's lie to themselves.

    I'd never trust any government or institution with the power of life and death, we are far too smart for our own good and no matter how safe we try and make euthanasia, someone is going to learn how to use it for profit.

    You could bring up war or the war, but then I could just bring up how thick headed people can be, 2 world wars isn't enough, no we gotta go steal some oil in the name WMD, nevermind the Kurds and countries are busy bankrupting themselves trying to win a war they know they can't win and what do they do? Sting those who haven't got anything for £11 billion and the banks £2 billion, the folks that couldn't regulate themselves out of bonus even if there was a bonus for doing it.

    So what happens crime will increase as the desperate do what they do best, get desperate and the folks in charge of all the cash end up spending more to protect what they have than they took from the poor in the first place.

    Oh wait, I did say, don't bring up the war :p

    As for over population, immigration is the only thing keeping population steady in the west, we'll be fine for a lil while longer :)
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