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'Valid' Suicide Reasons?

Discussion in 'I Have a Question...' started by ~*~Michelle~*~, Oct 18, 2006.

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  1. (New to the forum, so please forgive me if this has already been discussed :shy: )

    Has anyone else ever gotten the feeling that their personal reasons for contemplating suicide were somehow invalid, or not "enough"? Ever been told that you were overreacting and to just "get over it"? If you have been in either of these situations, how did you feel about it? I've felt as though I "shouldn't" have suicidal thoughts/feelings, because there are so many people who are far worse off than me, and this just makes me feel guilty for my own emotions. Am I alone in this, or has anyone else experienced it as well? :unsure:
  2. TLA

    TLA Antiquitie's Friend

    I don't think you are alone in hearing that response. In my life, it is family that has no idea what goes on in my head. They say that cuz they do not want to feel guilty that you have the "bad" thoughts in your mind. I feel those individuals that minimize your feelings and do not validate me are the ones that truely need help.
  3. claycad

    claycad Well-Known Member

    I feel the same way. I think of how many people in this world who are dying of some terminal disease who would want nothing more then to live, then me, a perfectly physically healthy person want to deliberately take his own life. That seems invalid to me.

    As do the grief and shame I know it would cause my family. I'm not one of these "Nobody would miss me when I'm gone" people. I know several people who would be in a considerable amount of pain if I killed myself, and who am I to cause anyone else pain?
  4. LetItGo

    LetItGo Staff Alumni

    I dont think there is such a thing as an invalid reason. Suicide is the ultimate right of all individuals. But just because you can, doesnt mean you should...

    The few times ive seriously come close to killing myself, its knowing the effect it will have on my mother in particular that has stopped me from doing it. It would utterly destroy her to be honest..and she's already pretty fragile, depressed herself, has been for a long time. She'd go the same way within a week.
  5. reborn1961

    reborn1961 Guest

    I don't actually think there are really any "valid" reasons. Suicidal thoughts are a product of depression amoung many other variables. I believe suicide is an irrational response to a real situtation. It seems our normal coping skills break down for some reason, could be chemical imbalance, trauma etc. Without those skills it is very common to think of suicide as a coping skill.

    I don't think you should feel bad about having the thoughts as it is common and normal. Its best to of course prevent the thoughts from becomming action and hopefully you will seek medical attention before that happens. Suicide is a symptom of a disease (such as depression, PTSD, bipolar and many many others) that needs treatment. The thoughts may never fully leave you but the process of thought to action can be managed with proper help and time.

    So don't feel bad, just know there is promise and perhaps explore treatments. Good luck.
  6. helena

    helena Staff Alumni

    I guess it's not fair to yourself to think that, like, a lot of people are in worse places, having "real"problems...first it minimizes how you feel, and I think if you feel so bad you get suicidal thoughts, than something is wrong....and it can sometimes, a lot of times, be a physiological matter, not only a mood or emotion. I am affraid that indeed society has her responsabilities in this, as I see most kids get delivered by nannys, or other aupairs from so early, and parents are never there because they need or made need to work hard,mostly also because society demands us to buy things all the time....i mean, if I make any sense,the goals to live in the western society are very dubious, I think.I don't want to say that we have to go back to pre history to valuate life, but the way we're supposed to compete with our fellow man,the standards on education, the price you have to pay for a house, for instance it makes people frustrated I guess....I don't really know if I'm making any sense.
    About hurting people if you kill yourself, I'm the mom on this thing :biggrin: and I am soooo glad you take your moms in regard, I couldn't survive a suicide of my own kids.....it is also the reason I can't do it myself too.
    Anyway, it is great to know that you people are asking yourselfs this questions,it shows that you really try to feel different,that you care about others, and not the selfish people normale suicidal people are called.
    Take good care you all,
    :hug: :hug:
  7. I completely agree with you here, clayclad. Nice to know I'm not the only one with these thoughts.

    MJ, I can relate to your comments as well, particularly in referance to your mother. My own mother is the main reason I haven't gone through with suicide as well. It makes me feel selfish to want to take my own life sometimes.
  8. ~CazzaAngel~

    ~CazzaAngel~ Staff Alumni

    I have felt those things too. It's nice knowing I'm not alone on these things. :hug:


  9. LetItGo

    LetItGo Staff Alumni

    Ya when I see how some people in really terrible circumstances cope and fight back it makes me feel pretty pathetic.

    Then again maybe its the case that when your backs really up against the wall, you tend to fight that much harder.
  10. :hug:
  11. eih

    eih Well-Known Member

    oh man tell me about it I feel like that all the time.. like there's alot of people who have better reasons .. and they're are the ones who seem to enjoy life the most.. how odd
  12. LetItGo

    LetItGo Staff Alumni

    Tired of porn???...BLASHPHEMER! I cast aside evil, and banish thy demons! :tongue:

    Erm, ya im over porn as well. Although ive established a nice little collection now which I often turn too for *cough* referance *cough*...just so I dont forget what the female form actually looks like. In case I ever get lucky again I need to know what bits go where...:biggrin:
  13. TheBLA

    TheBLA The biggest loser alive.

    When I visited India earlier this year, I saw plenty of absolute, wretched poverty, it was so heartbreaking and tragic to see.
    And I feel even worse because they are trying so hard and they work so hard to bring enough money just to eat, they want to live and survive so badly.
    And here, look at me with all these material comforts but still dead inside, having an empty, pathetic life. I don't deserve the material comforts I have, they do, life is so unfair. :sad: :sad: :sad:
  14. iQuit

    iQuit Well-Known Member

    I think there are valid reasons. Cancer, AIDS, Poverty, getting sent to Guantanamo Bay detainment camp.
  15. *dilligaf*

    *dilligaf* Staff Alumni

    yes michelle i have often been told to just get over it, ior made to feel that my reasons somehow, arent good enough.
    but at the end of the day its what YOU feel that counts...only you know how much ypu can take etc.
  16. ~CazzaAngel~

    ~CazzaAngel~ Staff Alumni

    MJ! :tongue:
  17. tim

    tim Guest

    maybe suicide shouldn't be thought of as "suicide", but "dying" instead. then the word, at least, doesn't sound so upsetting. andcomparing your problems to other peoples' problems just to keep you from dying doesn't really get rid of any of YOUR problems. so if you would just stop comparing yourself to other people, you could kill yourself without these questions of who has it worse, and also you might not even be sad enough to die. on the other hand, i believe that life is pointless (like a game) and suicide is just a method of giving up this unfavorable game. is death really bad? is life really bad?
  18. Always Alone

    Always Alone Guest

    I used to feel like that. I always thought people would tell me the stuff I worried about was trivial.

    Then I came here, people here made me realize, if it made me think about killing myself, its more than valid. Everyone is individual, things affect us in different ways, and we cope in our own ways. Everything we think is valid
  19. TheBLA

    TheBLA The biggest loser alive.

    I feel that I am the most deserving person of suicide on Earth right now, that I am so pathetic, so empty, that I HAVE to commit suicide, and of course my parents are just very upset and disturbed as to why I would think this.

    I cannot imagine living until I die of old age in my sad, pathetic condition.
    The worst part is that everyone ignores me, I have nobody to talk to, when I want to talk, nobody listens when people are willing to listen, I dont feel like talking.

    I am not fit to live in this world, life itself isn't bad, its just me thats the problem, I don't have what it takes to live and be happy. I'm really depressed and worried right now and everyone around me is so happy and sucessful and wondering why I am depressed, but they don't know how pathetic I truly am.

    I'm afraid of killing myself because of the pain I'd cause my family and also of what happens after death, I'm stuck in this pathetic miserable life of mine, there's no way out, just suffering.....

    My problem is so unique and pathetic that nobody can help me. I dunno what to do anymore, I'm very lost and afraid but nobody cares, I'm a nobody. :sad: :sad:
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  20. tip

    tip Guest

    first hi and welcome, also I love your sig Michelle.

    you'll prolly think im a bad boy wanna be but...

    2pac said.. "contemplated suicide, but when I held that nine (9mm-gun) all I could see was my momma's eyes"

    that just sticks with, prly will forever, I see my mum dad and sis and thnk...no way.

    When I contemplate it I always of them and it brings me out because I can't be without them, whatever happens after life..i wanna stay with my fam and thats right here.

    I don't think there is a such thing as valid suicide reasons unless you delve into Euthanasia, we are all here to play our part...even if sumtime you wonder what IS that part.

    I feel a coward for thinking about it and wouldn't want my fam to blame themselves...

    even if at the moment im no use to them...one day i'll be thier rock like they are mine.
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