For more times than I can count, I've heard the platitude that you can not have joy unless you have pain. That to experience joy that you have to also experience pain. To certain degree, I agree with that. But for some people, the pain can become Unbearable. In my case, I can look back at some terribly Unjust experiences, yet I can say I learned some valuable lessons. I hear many of you on this forum say how nasty that other people have treated you. But then we must also realize that we ourselves are Imperfect. Let's be honest with ourselves and admit that sometimes we have treated somebody Unfairly, maybe even cruelly. Even if we did Not mean it maliciously, but it still hurt that other person. What I'm driving at is Forgiveness. Of course, it's hard to do, maybe the hardest thing in the world to do. But in the end, it will work to our benefit. Well, at least to me, I find that to be the case, but I don't know about the rest of you folks. So I now ask you folks--do you believe that Pain is necessary? Is the existence of Opposites necessary? Do you believe that you must experience pain in order to experience joy?