Ive noticed a lot of women have bad experience with men and normal hold back. a woman who rushes, normally gets used. I can see why women dont ask men out or show their feelings. After a few years the 'he has to prove it' and 'earn' and 'show me' statements have worn me down. women dont seem to care about mens feelings. I find at work, online, and even by phone, most women test the man to see if hes a creep. At first i supported and felt I understood this. Now i do not. If i participate in this, then my feelings are pushed a side. Im no longer a person, Im a participant. If she feels I am a creep, she rejects me... I cant invest in a woman who could just ignore me like that. I dont think its right to have to earn the right to be with her. Im told this is courting, like for animals when mating. Ive noticed a lot of relationships that are considered serious, arent. I think this is why. I think youre starting it out wrong. Youre making yourself a prize, and the only people who are playing, just want the victory of winning. If it was a real relationship, it would be balanced. Im not suggesting to not be cautious. like i said, women who rush, are normally used. sad. But with my experiences, that I think a lot of lonely men experience. The dating cycle normally has a pretty girl, and men attempting to 'get to know her'. I think this, right from the start, is why the relationship will fail.