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[JMG]

^ Lol, I wish. If it truly was “just” grumpiness and nothing more, I could probably almost deal with that without too much difficulty. However, in my delightful grumpy gramps’ case, ya definitely gotta throw in a lot more “hateful judgment” and that would be a more accurate depiction of him. It kinda makes me never want to look at him again tbh. I felt like the most worthless pos for a full week after being around his miserable, rude, judgmental and grumpy ass.

Definitely have no intention of seeing him at Christmas this year (sounds like a great way to ensure it will NOT be a merry Christmas lol) or maybe ever again. He definitely owes both me and my mom a major apology for being so bloody rude and disrespectful to us like he was. He’s kind of horrible imo.

 

[Witty_Sarcasm]

^ Lol, I wish. If it truly was “just” grumpiness and nothing more, I could probably almost deal with that without too much difficulty. However, in my delightful grumpy gramps’ case, ya definitely gotta throw in a lot more “hateful judgment” and that would be a more accurate depiction of him. It kinda makes me never want to look at him again tbh. I felt like the most worthless pos for a full week after being around his miserable, rude, judgmental and grumpy ass.

Definitely have no intention of seeing him at Christmas this year (sounds like a great way to ensure it will NOT be a merry Christmas lol) or maybe ever again. He definitely owes both me and my mom a major apology for being so bloody rude and disrespectful to us like he was. He’s kind of horrible imo.

Well the less you have to deal with his crap the better, good for not wanting to be around him anymore.

 

[JMG]

Well the less you have to deal with his crap the better, good for not wanting to be around him anymore.

Thank you, I definitely appreciate your kind support with it. That generation…ya…they sometimes seem to not really get it. These are just such simple, basic things imo. Why pick the fake, phony path when you can just keep it real instead? I will never understand that kind of thinking. Things may not be “perfect” these days (far from it for sure) but I am glad things have chilled out in a lot of ways compared to in the 50’s & 60’s. Those seem like kinda messed up decades to me.

Anyway, yup, I agree with what you said about it being better to not be anywhere near his toxic negativity anymore. Rather not be around such a soul killing, energy vampire thanks.

 

[JMG]

How silly some of my family members are. They just…wow…where to even BEGIN trying to explain the complete and utter lack of intelligence they seem to have, at least on the psychological level. It just baffles me to no end. What an utterly hollow existence it must be, to be so completely disconnected from the self. I can’t really even imagine.

I said some extremely benign stuff about feelings, then when it was clear there were manipulation attempts being made (dragging in stuff that wasn’t actually all that relevant, and also was not factual anyway but just ignorant opinions about things) I called her on that nonsense and said that it did not work on me.

Well damn. After that, talk about the most defensive, immature, temper tantrum, projecting, abusive, hostile, mean and moronic reaction. Some of the bs nonsense she said to me was pretty unforgivable imo. It’s not only “what” she said, but how she said it, and the fact that she would even cross a major boundary and “go there” at all.

Wow. Just despicable. I do not use the word “hate” lightly but…well…my feelings towards her right now do kinda feel strong enough to be described in such a way. The only way I feel like I could maybe forgive such an irrational, mean, abusive, uncalled for and harsh reaction would be if she was to completely offer a very sincere apology, along with some assurance that she would never say such a thing to me again. But I know better than to think she has any real capability of doing that at all, ever. Nope, I’m quite certain she feels nothing about speaking to me in such a way. And after all this nonsense, she has the damn nerve to actually call me (me!) selfish and self-centered.

Beyond unbelievable, like I’ve actually pinched myself to see if maybe I was just having a horrible nightmare about having such god awful family members or something, but no, this has actually, really happened and they actually think that is a perfectly acceptable way to treat me. It is truly no wonder I enjoy and appreciate surreal art so deeply, cos my damn life really is surreal having to deal with these mental midgets. Sometimes I’ve felt a bit bad about being on this site for over 15 years, like asked myself “wtf is wrong with me that I’ve needed it for so long?” kind of thing. Well now I see, it is because all this abusive family nonsense is pretty much ongoing, and always lurking just beneath the surface of their bs fakery. But this treatment is their real feelings, and maybe why they feel the need to be so fake like they are. It is just insanity imo. Definitely for the best that we have no contact for a while. I always suspected they were still judging me very harshly, and it turns out I was exactly right. They have zero respect, class or decency at all to be able to behave in such a crummy way to me like this.

Ok, sorry for the long post, I don’t ask or demand that anyone either read something so long (and possibly boring lol) or reply to it. I am truly just venting here, and wow, just getting it typed out like this and “out of my head” actually does feel like it’s helped a bit. I am already feeling like there is a “light” at the end of this, and I think it is a combination of my own inner strength, the support I have from some kind members on here, my mom, sis, kitty and rl friend and everything else that is good and right in my life. I have actually survived even worse treatment than this before in my life, and at a very young age no less. I can definitely find a way to survive this too

 

[Witty_Sarcasm]

How silly some of my family members are. They just…wow…where to even BEGIN trying to explain the complete and utter lack of intelligence they seem to have, at least on the psychological level. It just baffles me to no end. What an utterly hollow existence it must be, to be so completely disconnected from the self. I can’t really even imagine.

I said some extremely benign stuff about feelings, then when it was clear there were manipulation attempts being made (dragging in stuff that wasn’t actually all that relevant, and also was not factual anyway but just ignorant opinions about things) I called her on that nonsense and said that it did not work on me.

Well damn. After that, talk about the most defensive, immature, temper tantrum, projecting, abusive, hostile, mean and moronic reaction. Some of the bs nonsense she said to me was pretty unforgivable imo. It’s not only “what” she said, but how she said it, and the fact that she would even cross a major boundary and “go there” at all.

Wow. Just despicable. I do not use the word “hate” lightly but…well…my feelings towards her right now do kinda feel strong enough to be described in such a way. The only way I feel like I could maybe forgive such an irrational, mean, abusive, uncalled for and harsh reaction would be if she was to completely offer a very sincere apology, along with some assurance that she would never say such a thing to me again. But I know better than to think she has any real capability of doing that at all, ever. Nope, I’m quite certain she feels nothing about speaking to me in such a way. And after all this nonsense, she has the damn nerve to actually call me (me!) selfish and self-centered.

Beyond unbelievable, like I’ve actually pinched myself to see if maybe I was just having a horrible nightmare about having such god awful family members or something, but no, this has actually, really happened and they actually think that is a perfectly acceptable way to treat me. It is truly no wonder I enjoy and appreciate surreal art so deeply, cos my damn life really is surreal having to deal with these mental midgets. Sometimes I’ve felt a bit bad about being on this site for over 15 years, like asked myself “wtf is wrong with me that I’ve needed it for so long?” kind of thing. Well now I see, it is because all this abusive family nonsense is pretty much ongoing, and always lurking just beneath the surface of their bs fakery. But this treatment is their real feelings, and maybe why they feel the need to be so fake like they are. It is just insanity imo. Definitely for the best that we have no contact for a while. I always suspected they were still judging me very harshly, and it turns out I was exactly right. They have zero respect, class or decency at all to be able to behave in such a crummy way to me like this.

Ok, sorry for the long post, I don’t ask or demand that anyone either read something so long (and possibly boring lol) or reply to it. I am truly just venting here, and wow, just getting it typed out like this and “out of my head” actually does feel like it’s helped a bit. I am already feeling like there is a “light” at the end of this, and I think it is a combination of my own inner strength, the support I have from some kind members on here, my mom, sis, kitty and rl friend and everything else that is good and right in my life. I have actually survived even worse treatment than this before in my life, and at a very young age no less. I can definitely find a way to survive this too

Wow, she sounds like an absolute delight. Should we just ship her into outer space? lol

I thought this was about your sister at first, but I see that you mentioned her later on in the post, so must be another family member. Still better off without this person in your life.

 

[JMG]

Wow, she sounds like an absolute delight. Should we just ship her into outer space? lol

I thought this was about your sister at first, but I see that you mentioned her later on in the post, so must be another family member. Still better off without this person in your life.

Lol, yup, she is damn delightful for sure. Shipping to outer space sounds pretty good right about now :p Sorry for being so vague about the family member I’m talking about, I guess I just feel a bit guilty still (kinda ridiculous at this point, yet still that feeling persists) cos…well, ok, it’s my grandma. Ya, like she has “done” nice things for me over the years, and I do appreciate that a lot. But this whole “never wanting to go near the subject of feelings (as far as I can tell, she is just afraid of feelings, period) or keeping it real about things” like wow, that is a very huge and fundamental part of who I am as a person.

It is more than just a “preference” for me with needing to feel comfortable enough to express my feelings (I can handle doing that in a limited way, but not at ALL? No, that is pretty much impossible for me), it is pretty much a need for me. I had to keep so much of my feelings “in” for parts of my childhood, so as an adult now it is the absolute last bloody thing I ever want to do if it can be helped. She doesn’t seem to understand that at all.

Anyway, ya, overall I am definitely feeling like I agree about being better off without my grandma in my life. I do not put up with ANY bullying behavior as an adult woman. It was more than enough having to deal with that evil nonsense from my miserable stepmother. Thank you for taking the time to read & reply to that long post though, I really appreciate that you care

 

[Witty_Sarcasm]

Lol, yup, she is damn delightful for sure. Shipping to outer space sounds pretty good right about now :p Sorry for being so vague about the family member I’m talking about, I guess I just feel a bit guilty still (kinda ridiculous at this point, yet still that feeling persists) cos…well, ok, it’s my grandma. Ya, like she has “done” nice things for me over the years, and I do appreciate that a lot. But this whole “never wanting to go near the subject of feelings (as far as I can tell, she is just afraid of feelings, period) or keeping it real about things” like wow, that is a very huge and fundamental part of who I am as a person.

It is more than just a “preference” for me with needing to feel comfortable enough to express my feelings (I can handle doing that in a limited way, but not at ALL? No, that is pretty much impossible for me), it is pretty much a need for me. I had to keep so much of my feelings “in” for parts of my childhood, so as an adult now it is the absolute last bloody thing I ever want to do if it can be helped. She doesn’t seem to understand that at all.

Anyway, ya, overall I am definitely feeling like I agree about being better off without my grandma in my life. I do not put up with ANY bullying behavior as an adult woman. It was more than enough having to deal with that evil nonsense from my miserable stepmother. Thank you for taking the time to read & reply to that long post though, I really appreciate that you care

It's ok, I just thought it might be her because it sounds like the family members that give you the most trouble are your grandparents, sometimes your sister and brother in law. So I kind of guessed it was one of them. There's nothing wrong with feeling the way you do, even if she has done nice things for you before. It sounds like she cares more about material things than feelings. Just because she is emotionally closed off doesn't mean it's alright for her to expect everyone else to be.

 

[JMG]

It's ok, I just thought it might be her because it sounds like the family members that give you the most trouble are your grandparents, sometimes your sister and brother in law. So I kind of guessed it was one of them. There's nothing wrong with feeling the way you do, even if she has done nice things for you before. It sounds like she cares more about material things than feelings. Just because she is emotionally closed off doesn't mean it's alright for her to expect everyone else to be.

Thanks, and yup you are right about those family members all giving me the most trouble. It would also be my dad and uncles if I saw them more often. Only see my dad for lunches about 2-3 times per year, and pretty much never see my 2 uncles (his brothers). I really appreciate you saying it’s ok for me to feel how I feel, even if my grandma has “done nice things” for me over the years. Yup, you’re quite right about her valuing material things more than feelings.

I agree about what you said with it not being ok for her to expect everyone else to be as emotionally closed off as she is. She is definitely the “selfish and self-centered” one. Definitely better to just have nothing to do with her toxic energy any longer. As upsetting as it still feels in some ways right now, I know in the long run that I will be so much better off now

 

[Witty_Sarcasm]

Thanks, and yup you are right about those family members all giving me the most trouble. It would also be my dad and uncles if I saw them more often. Only see my dad for lunches about 2-3 times per year, and pretty much never see my 2 uncles (his brothers). I really appreciate you saying it’s ok for me to feel how I feel, even if my grandma has “done nice things” for me over the years. Yup, you’re quite right about her valuing material things more than feelings.

I agree about what you said with it not being ok for her to expect everyone else to be as emotionally closed off as she is. She is definitely the “selfish and self-centered” one. Definitely better to just have nothing to do with her toxic energy any longer. As upsetting as it still feels in some ways right now, I know in the long run that I will be so much better off now

I'm glad that you cut off contact with those who harass you, or at least very much limit that contact. You don't need to deal with that from anyone, regardless of if they are related to you or not.

 

[JMG]

I'm glad that you cut off contact with those who harass you, or at least very much limit that contact. You don't need to deal with that from anyone, regardless of if they are related to you or not.

Thank you again for your kind compassion and support about this, it is very nice of you. I agree about it being better to cut off contact with with people like that, regardless of whether they’re family or not.

 

[JMG]

Just how rude some people can be for no good reason at all other than their own silly insecurities. I’m gonna write “tysm” as much as I damn well want to, so saying that it’s not “speaking properly” is just a rude, miserable, critical and utterly unnecessary thing to say. If you can’t speak English well enough to understand fucking acronyms, then don’t try speaking English at all. Or at the very least, don’t criticize those who DO speak the language as not speaking it properly. People use that acronym all the damn time. Treating me like I’m some stupid moron for doing that is just beyond despicable imo.

God, this year really does seem determined to make me deal with stupid, rude, thoughtless and offensive assholes. But whatever, one more rude, disrespectful comment from that jerk and I definitely intend on just blocking them on there. Their comments are mostly kind of annoying anyway. Very obvious that THEY are the ones who can’t “speak properly” lmao. The levels of hypocrisy some people reach somehow still continues to amaze me. Just sad.

 

[Witty_Sarcasm]

Just how rude some people can be for no good reason at all other than their own silly insecurities. I’m gonna write “tysm” as much as I damn well want to, so saying that it’s not “speaking properly” is just a rude, miserable, critical and utterly unnecessary thing to say. If you can’t speak English well enough to understand fucking acronyms, then don’t try speaking English at all. Or at the very least, don’t criticize those who DO speak the language as not speaking it properly. People use that acronym all the damn time. Treating me like I’m some stupid moron for doing that is just beyond despicable imo.

God, this year really does seem determined to make me deal with stupid, rude, thoughtless and offensive assholes. But whatever, one more rude, disrespectful comment from that jerk and I definitely intend on just blocking them on there. Their comments are mostly kind of annoying anyway. Very obvious that THEY are the ones who can’t “speak properly” lmao. The levels of hypocrisy some people reach somehow still continues to amaze me. Just sad.

I'm sure they can figure out what the acronym is saying, or at least look it up. And it's not like you're speaking in broken English lol. That person is being overly pedantic and it's annoying.

 

[JMG]

I'm sure they can figure out what the acronym is saying, or at least look it up. And it's not like you're speaking in broken English lol. That person is being overly pedantic and it's annoying.

Lol ya exactly. I mean they said they “don’t speak English very well” but it’s like that doesn’t give someone the right to make dumb, rude and insulting comments saying it isn’t “speaking properly”. They were always a bit of an odd jerk though tbh. Like rather than just commenting with a nice comment on my pics like saying “this is cool, I love it” or something like that, this…person…would write stuff like “you should sell these as stickers” and basically just “telling me what to do”. I bloody hate that so much lol. Like fine to suggest it I guess, but most of their comments have been like that. Gets old after a while, I’ve actually been tempted to just write “please stop saying that” but haven’t wanted to be rude lol. Turns out they have no problem being rude to me though, so I clearly worried far too much about that.

Anyway - they wrote a few more snarky, mouthing off to me comments yesterday and I am just ignoring them and giving zero acknowledgment at all. No like, and definitely no reply. No way in hell. I never do a freeze out of anyone, and there have been some annoying people on there over the couple years I’ve been on there, but never did a freeze out. It seems this person is kinda begging for that at this point though, so they haven’t really left me any other choice. These kinds of people definitely need to learn how to treat people better. Very sad for sure.

 

[Witty_Sarcasm]

Lol ya exactly. I mean they said they “don’t speak English very well” but it’s like that doesn’t give someone the right to make dumb, rude and insulting comments saying it isn’t “speaking properly”. They were always a bit of an odd jerk though tbh. Like rather than just commenting with a nice comment on my pics like saying “this is cool, I love it” or something like that, this…person…would write stuff like “you should sell these as stickers” and basically just “telling me what to do”. I bloody hate that so much lol. Like fine to suggest it I guess, but most of their comments have been like that. Gets old after a while, I’ve actually been tempted to just write “please stop saying that” but haven’t wanted to be rude lol. Turns out they have no problem being rude to me though, so I clearly worried far too much about that.

Anyway - they wrote a few more snarky, mouthing off to me comments yesterday and I am just ignoring them and giving zero acknowledgment at all. No like, and definitely no reply. No way in hell. I never do a freeze out of anyone, and there have been some annoying people on there over the couple years I’ve been on there, but never did a freeze out. It seems this person is kinda begging for that at this point though, so they haven’t really left me any other choice. These kinds of people definitely need to learn how to treat people better. Very sad for sure.

If they don't speak English very well, maybe they should work on that instead of criticizing anyone else. I hate when people tell me what to do too. That happens on the story app I write on, and it's annoying because I'll write how I want to. They can make their own things if they want to control what is done with them. Sometimes you just need to freeze people out if they aren't learning a damn thing about how to interact kindly with others.

 

[JMG]

If they don't speak English very well, maybe they should work on that instead of criticizing anyone else. I hate when people tell me what to do too. That happens on the story app I write on, and it's annoying because I'll write how I want to. They can make their own things if they want to control what is done with them. Sometimes you just need to freeze people out if they aren't learning a damn thing about how to interact kindly with others.

My thoughts exactly lol. I can’t imagine ever speaking so rudely to someone who spoke another language that I was trying to speak. I would just be hoping they’d be patient with ME for not speaking it as well as them lol. People in all languages use acronyms, especially online. They are a million times faster to use. Part of the reason I use them on there is cos sometimes there’s a LOT of comments to reply to. But regardless of my reason, she definitely has no right to try to control how I speak. Kinda reminding me of my gran a bit at this point lol.

Omg, that’s horrible that people on the story app try to tell you what to do. Very rude for sure. But ya, exactly, if they want control over what is done in a story then better for them to just write their own stories. This stuff is so basic, pretty sad that some people seem to struggle to figure it out.

Thanks for the support about the freezing out thing too, and yup you’re right, some people just leave you no choice. You can try to communicate clearly to them that you feel they’re being a bit rude, but if they just come back with some nonsense (like saying “I’m not being rude” lol) then ya, they don’t leave much other choice.

 

[Witty_Sarcasm]

My thoughts exactly lol. I can’t imagine ever speaking so rudely to someone who spoke another language that I was trying to speak. I would just be hoping they’d be patient with ME for not speaking it as well as them lol. People in all languages use acronyms, especially online. They are a million times faster to use. Part of the reason I use them on there is cos sometimes there’s a LOT of comments to reply to. But regardless of my reason, she definitely has no right to try to control how I speak. Kinda reminding me of my gran a bit at this point lol.

Omg, that’s horrible that people on the story app try to tell you what to do. Very rude for sure. But ya, exactly, if they want control over what is done in a story then better for them to just write their own stories. This stuff is so basic, pretty sad that some people seem to struggle to figure it out.

Thanks for the support about the freezing out thing too, and yup you’re right, some people just leave you no choice. You can try to communicate clearly to them that you feel they’re being a bit rude, but if they just come back with some nonsense (like saying “I’m not being rude” lol) then ya, they don’t leave much other choice.

Yeah, they are easier to use, especially when you have to type a lot. I don't mind using shortcuts if it will save some time, and people will still understand me, unless I use some really obscure acronyms. Even though it's annoying that they tell me how to write my stories, it's still a bit better than those who are downright rude, but it's very annoying either way. Some people can be clueless and I just choose to not deal with them.

 

[JMG]

Yeah, they are easier to use, especially when you have to type a lot. I don't mind using shortcuts if it will save some time, and people will still understand me, unless I use some really obscure acronyms. Even though it's annoying that they tell me how to write my stories, it's still a bit better than those who are downright rude, but it's very annoying either way. Some people can be clueless and I just choose to not deal with them.

Yup, exactly. Ya I definitely wasn’t using an obscure acronym, it’s used on there all the damn time. I swear some people either just like to complain, or feel so powerless in their own lives that they have to try to control others to feel like they have value.

I can see how those who tell you how to write might be slightly better than the ones who are outright “rude” but telling someone how to do something is still rude enough imo. Agreed on some people being clueless, and yup I feel the same with preferring to just not deal with them as well.

 

[Witty_Sarcasm]

I don't know if I'm just weird or what, but when I see something really cute, it makes me want to cry. Not because I'm sad, but because I'm full of emotions. Even just watching stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pUDxbwbKcuY

Well, that one is a bit sad, but even things that aren't are making me want to tear up. I'm also amazed how realistic some of the AI is, considering that some of it is way off. :P

 

[puffymilk]

This feels like the weekend I love it, and I’m so happy and grateful for this forum

 

[Witty_Sarcasm]

What I'm going to buy when I go shopping again.