What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Laden?

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  1. Prinnctopher's Belt

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    Roll call. What, they lost their balls or something? Anybody home? :robin:
     
  2. Julia-C

    Julia-C Well-Known Member

    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    I think it only counts with the garden variety murderers. lol
     
  3. Prof.Bruttenholm

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    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    It is the way of the Human parasite, guided by Wrath for the death of it's own, it demands revenge in bloodshed.
    It's Pride pushes it to ignore it's false sense of Justice and claim the head of those who would do it harm, just as the human parasite did in War World 2 and in Rome and in China and in every other place on the planet.
    Pride, Wrath, Sloth, Lust, Gluttony, Envy and Greed guide the human hand.
     
  4. johnnysays

    johnnysays Well-Known Member

    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    I'll admit, I wonder why they didn't arrest him to formally charge him but then again, he was a international terrorist on the FBI's hit list and the US had been offering a $25 million (increased to $50 million) reward for his capture or death since 2001. It's hard to charge the navy seals with negligence or some such failure on their part when the suspect we're speaking of is Osama bin Laden.

    This is just not in the same ballpark as your average murder case in the court system. We have 2/3 ongoing wars tied to this.

    Also.. Bush closed down a special CIA paramilitary unit, in 2005, that had as its explicit mission to capture or kill OBL.

    Obama reestablished the hunt for OBL with the purpose of finding him or killing him, stating this in 2008.

    In April of htis year, intelligence had Osama in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Obama issued the orders to covertly capture or kill.
     
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  5. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

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    Did they execute him or did they kill him in a firefight?

    BIG difference.
     
  6. johnnysays

    johnnysays Well-Known Member

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    As far as I know, OBL wasn't armed, but I don't know about the others in the compound.
     
  7. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    Never looked it up. I don't know what to think about that. He wasn't done execution style... Would he have armed himself if possible? I would imagine he would have, he's not been averse to killing people before.
     
  8. Prinnctopher's Belt

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    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    White House says Bin Laden NOT armed when killed

    He was not armed and there was no firefight because none of the guards were armed either. There was never a mission to capture him, because they already say the mission the entire time was to ONLY kill. Dirty.

    It was a targeted KILL operation. An execution without trial and without conviction, of an unarmed man before his wife and children.

    Correction: It appears ONE courier person was armed and was killed after firing one shot, supposedly. There's your "firefight," depending on who you ask, tsk tsk.
     
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  9. Prinnctopher's Belt

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    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    So, WHERE YOU AT? Where are the anti-death penalty activists???? I know Noam Chomsky has been making the rounds publicly against the illegal OBL assassination. People sure do pick and choose which killers they want to live! :lol!:
     
  10. pit

    pit Well-Known Member

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    They finally put Bin in the trash bin where he belongs. Why raise a fuss? Whether he's killed alone or in front of his family, armed or unarmed; it makes no difference. The killer towelhead is dead and the world is a better place. And his kid will learn not to fuck with the USA.
     
  11. jota1

    jota1 Well-Known Member

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    I am definitely against the way he was killed.


    I would have actually slit his throat and left him to choke on his blood like all the other hostages that were killed on his orders. If you have any doubt about what I am saying have a look for yourself.
     
  12. Prinnctopher's Belt

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    So there doesn't seem to be a presence of the anti-death penalty suckers anywhere! LOL! They've gone into hiding, the pathetic hypocrites.

    What ever happened to "an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere," huh? Let's just start killing people accused of murders, and skip over a trial entirely. That way, we'll have the moral advantage, I'm sure.
     
  13. ConfusedSilence

    ConfusedSilence Well-Known Member

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    It should've been a capture operation.
    And wouldn't it have sent a better message to terrorists is they said "We have your leader, we control you" than to say "We killed your leader, we'll kill you"? I mean, if they are being told that they will be killed, it's a lot easier for them to justify terrorism by calling themselves oppressed. I don't agree with the premise of taking someone else's mortality in your own hands. I certainly don't agree with it when there are so many opposing views on this plan. I think that the only people who would agree with the shooting of an unarmed man who wasn't even in charge of Al-Quaeda at the time, therefore a pawn in the Afghanistan conflict, are the families of people who died in 9/11. While their opinion is just as valid as anybody else's, they are upset, and are driven by revenge and not logical thought.
     
  14. jota1

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    Dont compare a killing in war theater with murder in one of your cities. Not comparable.
    Exceptional situations require exceptional measures.
     
  15. Prinnctopher's Belt

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    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    A murder is a murder, yes, even on Mars. Cities have wars. Have you ever heard of the Crips? Bloods? MS-13? Street wars are out here every day and every night. Are the murders they commit any different? No. It's an injustice anyway you look at it and there is no justifying it without losing moral high ground.
     
  16. jota1

    jota1 Well-Known Member

    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    Its an assassination not a murder and it was ordered by a president, slightly different to your street wars.

    You may say...is it right to take another humans life, that's a different matter altogether but if it is in the interest of a country well then so be it. He is now (officially) dead and his organization has been undermined, his body is in the ocean so there is no place to worship him. if he were alive and in an American jail there would be so many bombings, kidnappings etc so as to have him released. The whole Muslim world would be up in arms demanding that he be judged in a Muslim country, it would be a media circus and a very dangerous one at that. Especialy for Americans but also for Europeans.

    He is better dead and buried. Sorry you cant compare this to an anonymous gang killing.
     
  17. Prinnctopher's Belt

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    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    An assassination IS a murder, regardless of who orders it. Should we no longer prosecute mafia capos for ordering murders simply because they're on top? That sounds about equal. Same principle.

    Media circus with Muslims up in arms? Christians are up in arms, why is that not a problem? There already is a media circus. As if Arabs haven't already been up in arms from being oppressed by American bombings in their lands. Please. Either way you try to put it, extrajudicial executions are wrong and is not a reflection of what this country is supposed to stand for. UBL was accused of killing people abroad; is that not what the US also does? Obama and Bush killed more civilians than UBL ever was accused of killing, what do you think should be done to them?
     
  18. NoMoneyToPlease

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    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    They only get emotionally involved when someone has been proved guilty in a court of law of having committed a heinous crime.

    The only evidence against Bin Laden is that he made a few videos trolling the US.

    Not worth the bother really,is it?

    How right on can you be,wailing and whining about the killing of an untried man?

    These are the kind of people who do not care if a child has died today,they only care if an adult who chose to kill a child will die at some point in the future.

    Twisted logic.

    Moral high ground.

    Basement of intellect.

    Wasteland of empathy.
     
  19. jota1

    jota1 Well-Known Member

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    Cant understand your logic, sorry...and an assassination is not a murder lol the end result is the same though, someone ends up dead... and I say good riddance he was a worthless piece of Sh/t full of hatred that financed murders...your just too soft and cant stomach some things that have to be done in life.

    While your looking at your belly button and debating the theory of life and whats correct there are others out there debating as to how to kill you, Americans and Europeans. Evil people are everywhere and we need people that can stomach and do some bad stuff on our behalf, thank them they are protecting you.
     
  20. Prinnctopher's Belt

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    Re: What happened to all the anti-death penalty activists on the execution of Bin Lad

    Let's define assassination. Does it not require malicious intent to kill? Does it not require a premeditated intent to kill? Does it not kill somebody? YES. YES. YES. The combination of these are the same criteria for murder. Murder Murder Murder, bloody murder. It doesn't matter whether it's your President that's calling the assassination of somebody you think is your enemy. If your President is also infamous for ordering the killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, is not that terrorism to those who become his or her victims? His sufferers? Does he not become the terrorist, too?

    The news advertises in your face everyday treating you like a dummy, telling you to your face how many civilians are being intentionally killed, murdered, targeted by actions authorized by your President -- the news is telling you this everyday, but the only thing you can sit up here and say is "good riddance, he was full of hatred that financed murders" and you don't even have the means to confirm whether Bin Laden was actually guilty of his accused crimes. But he's the terrorist, and not your President who does and broadcasts proudly that he does the same thing! These are facts honey, whether you like them or not, whether or not you disagree with them, it's the truth. Aren't you sitting here debating how it's right to kill Arabs and Muslims? What audacity do you have to condemn someone else or another group for doing the same damn thing you do!

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    What a hoot.

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    –verb (used with object), -nat·ed, -nat·ing.
    1.
    to kill suddenly or secretively, especially a politically prominent person; murder premeditatedly and treacherously.
    2.
    to destroy or harm treacherously and viciously

    assassinate (əˈsæsɪˌneɪt)

    — vb
    1. to murder (a person, esp a public or political figure), usually by a surprise attack
     
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