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What hope is there for the mentally ill?

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aki

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Of course there's hope. It's illness, it can be treated, I know people who have recovered from mental health problems.
It's not right to say there's no hope for other people :mad:
 
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I know exactly how you feel. i always been weird/mentally ill, wish I was normal. The way we are is fine though, cause this life is just collecting experience for your true self. Your true self is a beautiful wise divine being. This life has not been for nothing I have learned a lot and I'm glad I did live.

Is there hope for us now? I can't say for sure. I'm guessing one out of five or so of mentally ill people get cured these days, you might be that one. In the future there will be easy to access cures for most mental illness though I believe.
 
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Pfft. Normal's boring. Who'd want to be normal?

That aside, there's always hope. Always, always, always. It's just a question of how much, but it never goes away.

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depends, if you have mh problems and are living in your own filth, you can't take care of yourself and you're not getting any care you're not getting any help you don't have any social support, time is completely fragmented, you are fragmented, you live day by day, of course the OP's point of 'where is the hope' is completely justified. even if that person isn't living in the picture that i paint, living comfortably and having their basic, daily needs there (food water safety shelter) then yeah, still, his point of 'no hope' is justified seeing as i don't know what he is going through at the moment, which i might imagine is pretty horrific to ask what hope is there? you don't know what kind of pain the OP is in, which is probably very individual and very personal to him.


as for normal. if normal meant having somewhere safe to stay, where basic things like food and preparing my meals wouldn't take up so much of my time and energy, where i'm not wandering just to look for a meal, and having my MH improve (i have a tonne of problems I'm dealing with) to enjoy my life better than i have done, then yeah, I'd want to be fucking 'normal' :dry:

i hate it when people say 'there is hope' and haven't actually been through MH services and experienced what i have and i bet loads of people have done. which is complete humiliation and abuse. it ruins your hope in everything, including people, including people's intentions "to help" including people's view that my problems is an "illness" rather than something that can be bought on by people and their actions/non actions and by the very services that i've been begging for help for how many years and who've nearly killed me.
 
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ggg4567 said:
depends, if you have mh problems and are living in your own filth, you can't take care of yourself and you're not getting any care you're not getting any help you don't have any social support, time is completely fragmented, you are fragmented, you live day by day, of course the OP's point of 'where is the hope' is completely justified. even if that person isn't living in the picture that i paint, living comfortably and having their basic, daily needs there (food water safety shelter) then yeah, still, his point of 'no hope' is justified seeing as i don't know what he is going through at the moment, which i might imagine is pretty horrific to ask what hope is there? you don't know what kind of pain the OP is in, which is probably very individual and very personal to him.


as for normal. if normal meant having somewhere safe to stay, where basic things like food and preparing my meals wouldn't take up so much of my time and energy, where i'm not wandering just to look for a meal, and having my MH improve (i have a tonne of problems I'm dealing with) to enjoy my life better than i have done, then yeah, I'd want to be fucking 'normal' :dry:

i hate it when people say 'there is hope' and haven't actually been through MH services and experienced what i have and i bet loads of people have done. which is complete humiliation and abuse. it ruins your hope in everything, including people, including people's intentions "to help" including people's view that my problems is an "illness" rather than something that can be bought on by people and their actions/non actions and by the very services that i've been begging for help for how many years and who've nearly killed me.
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Yeah, most people don't get it. But I don't want them to, I just want to be normal. I think talking to yourself, replying to scenarios in your head as if they were real (I don't do this out in public, but still), extreme sleep disturbances, having severe problems with human contact, anxiety, depression, etc the list goes on...is a little stress-inducing.

I want to kill myself, every second of every day. Dreams are a confusing trip through nostagia, I wake up...haunted. I don't want to be alive anymore, I'm an evolutionary mistake. I'm a waste of space. What else is there to say?
 
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:hug: I understand. What you're going through sounds horrific.

Do you have access to counselling at all? Do you take any medication?
 
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aki

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InnerStrength said:
Yeah, most people don't get it. But I don't want them to, I just want to be normal. I think talking to yourself, replying to scenarios in your head as if they were real (I don't do this out in public, but still), extreme sleep disturbances, having severe problems with human contact, anxiety, depression, etc the list goes on...is a little stress-inducing.

I want to kill myself, every second of every day. Dreams are a confusing trip through nostagia, I wake up...haunted. I don't want to be alive anymore, I'm an evolutionary mistake. I'm a waste of space. What else is there to say?
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wow....wow...its like you described me....i have every one of those things you said....wow...seriously i'm lost for words. have you been diagnosed with anything? i'm sorry for not being sympathetic before as well, i misunderstood what you were saying.
 
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I think there is hope for us mentally ill people, but the attitudes of the general public have to change too. Mental illness is not looked at the same as physical illness. It's seen as a "character defect" too often and not as an illness. I've been severely depressed for years, probably most of my adult life, and even members of my own family don't understand it. They think that I should just be able to "adapt" and it's not always possible.

I do think that attitudes are changing, but we've still got a long way to go to reach real understanding.
 
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theleastofthese said:
I think there is hope for us mentally ill people, but the attitudes of the general public have to change too. Mental illness is not looked at the same as physical illness. It's seen as a "character defect" too often and not as an illness. I've been severely depressed for years, probably most of my adult life, and even members of my own family don't understand it. They think that I should just be able to "adapt" and it's not always possible.

I do think that attitudes are changing, but we've still got a long way to go to reach real understanding.
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Well, it is a "character defect" in the sense that it detracts from one's character. But, the notion that it is somehow under their control doesn't make sense, in most cases.

And "depression" is the least of my issues, not to sound whiny. I feel like I am mentally deteorating, often times I get confused and forget what I am doing, my emotions are lacking in all the wrong areas. Happiness, sympathy, calm, all lacking.

I often get lost in my head, in my fantasies. I've been told I'm very creative, but with all these mental shortcomings, it amounts to nothing. My speech has become terrible and slurred.

I don't want to get out of bed anymore, what speaks more of someone's spirit being crushed. This IS a horrible world, I don't believe in God, only the lucky few can carve out some sort of happiness, some sense of worth, some sense of living.

I don't know what to do anymore.
 
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