There's a real cabal-istic feel in here, same as other suicide forums. This is not productive, having a bunch of 'suicide' forums where you can't discuss suicide. That boggles the mind. Brick wall, iron gate, the forbidden zone at the very edge of the earth--how does this help? I got sick and tired of hearing about the SOPA crap, where everyone was all up in arms over censorship on the internet, like it was all going to start with this one bill. Censorship has been on the internet since there was an internet. Am I allowed to request information? I don't really want a site that someone has so obviously set up in order to get usernames and passwords of members on this site, but they can only get that information if you go to that site and try to log on under your SF account. I'm thinking if they're not legitimate sites, maybe suicide can be discussed freely on them? If I ask if anyone here has any links to suicide forums where you can discuss suicide, does my thread and my post get deleted here? I'll bet it does. Of all the sick, twisted, deviant, morally caustic crap all over the internet--not only accessible but encouraged--the one and only taboo is suicide? If you're against suicide, you are pro-life. If you're pro-choice, then you support legalizing suicide. They are one and the same issue. Suicide is legit. So why can't we talk about it?