in driving their parents to wanting to kill themselves??? I am one of the most liberal parents on earth - perhaps TOO liberal - and my girls, both teens, seem to take great joy in making me cry. If I give them too much they shit on me. If I don't give them enough they shit on me. I'm sick of being told what to do and how to do it by a 15 yr old who's never raised any kids... I'm ready to shoot myself over this family shit and not regret the repercussions at all. Not how it will affect the kids - not that they'll care at all, they'll be glad to be rid of me - or what will happen to my many animals. I can't do anything right and haven't done anything right in a long time - what's there to lose??