wondering why i felt normal yesterday. (taken an illegal drug)

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  1. Takotsubo

    Takotsubo Well-Known Member

    i know we are not suppose talk about drugs but i was wondering why i felt normal. i took a <edit - drug name> ... i was at a rave and no i didn't feel high and yes it was my first time but it was weird because I'm usually depressed and emotionally numb like some people here but when i took it . I felt like a normal person ,thinking normal , acting normal . I heard those pills raise serotonin levels in the brain to make a person hyper / euphoric but me and my condition, after taking it i guess it raised my levels to normal or some chemical imbalance normal. hard to explain but yeah.
     
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  2. NYJmpMaster

    NYJmpMaster Have a question? Message Me Staff Member Forum Owner ADMIN

    There is an obvious allure to being able to take a pill and feel better - many drugs, both legally prescribed and illegal have this effect. I cannot say you did not hit it exactly on why it had the effect it did on you to make you feel normal - that is exactly how many legally prescribed drugs are intended to work. I would take from this experience that yes, there may very well be a prescription available from your Dr or psyche to get a similar beneficial effect, and you should consider that possibility even if you have tried medications that did not work before.

    Why bother is you have found a substance that seems to have the desired effect or seems to work better then other medications? Simple. Many people say they feel normal when they drink - but everybody around them can plainly and obviously see they are not - go into a bar (or your own living room in some cases) and look at all drunk people that think "I am fine - I am not even drunk" -- alcohol and most if not all illegal drugs alter your perception of reality - what you feel or more to the point ,think you feel, may be very different from reality and what others see. Illegal drugs have no quality controls - what worked fine and safe this time could have an entirely different chemical make up next time and an entirely different effect. Giving something a specific name is in no way a guarantee of actual content of the pill. People speak of big pharmaceutical companies bing all in it for the money-- I can promise you that is the SOLE PURPOSE of somebody manufacturing and selling illegal drugs as well - they did not sit down and say "if i make something really good it can really help people lead a better life" - the thought process is "if i get them really high and hopefully addicted I will make a lot more money - and if I can't get this component this week I will use another one - what are they going to do? sue me?"

    If you are correct and it changes serotonin levels or other naturally occurring chemical levels in your body then it can cause your body to stop producing these entirely, or cause your body to decide it needs to make even more of a counter agent to these chemicals - so the lows you typically experience become much much lower. The end result is you are far worse off than before. Legal drugs are designed with these possibilities in mind and monitored by a Dr - they will not give you the extreme high - but they also will not when used properly under the supervision of a Dr cause the detrimental long term effects as often - because if they do - you can sue them! Some of the side effects may even seem worse with the legal drugs - but that may well be because a second agent is added to them to prevent the long term side effects, being deemed as the short term negative effect can be dealt with by stopping the drug - a long term effect is there for months, years or forever even if you stop taking the drug.
     
  3. Cylon Kitten

    Cylon Kitten Member

    :) You already have experienced why drugs are so popular. some drugs do, temporarily, alleviate symptoms of a greater disorder... Many increase the levels of neurotransmitters like serotonin or dopamine which can make you feel 'high', 'euphoric' or, if you don't have enough of the neurotransmitters on a daily basis; 'normal'-- just remember that taking illegal drugs is hazardous. Not only do you run the risk of legal consequences and coming into contact with less-than-'pure' chemicals that could ravage your health, but the brain has a funny way of balancing its natural chemistry out.. basically, if you're feeling synthetically great while using some kind of drug, you'll be further messing up your natural brain chemistry after when your brain tries to balance itself out. (rebound)
    Overall, as much as it hurts, you're better off trying to go au naturale with your brain chemistry, and/or using prescription drugs under the guidance of a professional.
     
  4. foundit

    foundit Member

    As others have said, illegal drugs normally work by causing massive increases in neurotransmitters (NT) (usually serotonin, dopamine). As others have said, it may be that you just felt better/normal because of the good feeling these drugs produce
    However it could also be an indication that you have a mental health condition which causes an imbalance (usually low levels) of one of the transmitters associated with focus, empathy, joy, motivation etc.
    You say that you felt normal as opposed to 'high'. if you do have an imbalance then that could be because the illegal drug increase levels of the NT to normal ranges. Or it could be that you were just off your nut and felt great and thought you were focused and normal but were actually exactly the same as pretty much everyone else is when they take those.
    If you took it with friends you may want to think about how you remember them behaving, compared to yourself. But you need to balance that with what you know about them (ie if you have a friend who is drunk after two beers then chances are that same friend may react more obviously to drugs too).
    I think that most people when you ask this sort of question will tend to assume that you were just perceiving yourself as being more normal as a result of the good feelings the drug produced. However I know for a fact that sometimes a person with an diagnosed/misdiagnosed condition can take an illegal drug and feel that they are better or more normal on it than off. The best thing if this happens is to initially assume that you are just imagining it, and look for further evidence one way or the other. For example, how did other people perceive you, if you were interacting with people who know you but don't know you had taken anything then try and find out without asking, how you came across to them.

    So while you need to start by realising that when you take drugs you often feel as though you are acting normal or are performing or focusing well - you may not be. But at the same time, some of the illegal drugs act in similar ways to the legal treatments for conditions (ie Ecstasy, methamphetamine, cocaine, diet pills are similar to adhd drugs, barbiturates are similar to medications for depression and may be similar to drugs for schizophrenia), so it makes sense that a person with something like that which has not been diagnosed - may find when they try an illegal drug that it makes them feel normal rather tyhan high - or that they have a higher tolerance than most first time users.

    But even if that is the case - illegal drugs are usually like a short sharp slap in the face when what you need is a gentle long acting massage. In other words the effects are too strong, too short lived and most illegal drugs are addictive and if you tried to use them to treat a mental health condition you would end up addicted and with a rapidly increasing tolerance where you would have to take more and more.
    So if you think that you may have an undiagnosed condition but dont know what to do next or how to find out, start by googling your symptoms and also the drug you took, look for similar legal prescription medicines which act the same way as the illegal drug, look for conditions which match your symptoms and which are treated with drugs that are similar to what you took. If you have an undiagnosed condition I would expect that doing that research will start giving you conditions and medications which match. From there you can look for a dr/specialist and hopefully get a diagnosis and if they feel appropriate a prescription for a legal treatment.
     
  5. foundit

    foundit Member

    As others have said, illegal drugs normally work by causing massive increases in neurotransmitters (NT) (usually serotonin, dopamine). As others have said, it may be that you just felt better/normal because of the good feeling these drugs produce
    However it could also be an indication that you have a mental health condition which causes an imbalance (usually low levels) of one of the transmitters associated with focus, empathy, joy, motivation etc.
    You say that you felt normal as opposed to 'high'. if you do have an imbalance then that could be because the illegal drug increase levels of the NT to normal ranges. Or it could be that you were just off your nut and felt great and thought you were focused and normal but were actually exactly the same as pretty much everyone else is when they take those.
    If you took it with friends you may want to think about how you remember them behaving, compared to yourself. But you need to balance that with what you know about them (ie if you have a friend who is drunk after two beers then chances are that same friend may react more obviously to drugs too).
    I think that most people when you ask this sort of question will tend to assume that you were just perceiving yourself as being more normal as a result of the good feelings the drug produced. However I know for a fact that sometimes a person with an diagnosed/misdiagnosed condition can take an illegal drug and feel that they are better or more normal on it than off. The best thing if this happens is to initially assume that you are just imagining it, and look for further evidence one way or the other. For example, how did other people perceive you, if you were interacting with people who know you but don't know you had taken anything then try and find out without asking, how you came across to them.

    So while you need to start by realising that when you take drugs you often feel as though you are acting normal or are performing or focusing well - you may not be. But at the same time, some of the illegal drugs act in similar ways to the legal treatments for conditions (ie Ecstasy, methamphetamine, cocaine, diet pills are similar to adhd drugs, barbiturates are similar to medications for depression and may be similar to drugs for schizophrenia), so it makes sense that a person with something like that which has not been diagnosed - may find when they try an illegal drug that it makes them feel normal rather tyhan high - or that they have a higher tolerance than most first time users.

    But even if that is the case - illegal drugs are usually like a short sharp slap in the face when what you need is a gentle long acting massage. In other words the effects are too strong, too short lived and most illegal drugs are addictive and if you tried to use them to treat a mental health condition you would end up addicted and with a rapidily increasing tolerance where you would have to take more and more.
    So if you think that you may have an undiagnosed condition but dont know what to do next or how to find out, start by googling your symptoms and also the drug you took, look for similar legal prescription medicines which act the same way as the illegal drug, look for conditions which match your symptoms and which are treated with drugs that are similar to what you took. If you have an undiagnosed condition I would expect that doing that research will start giving you conditions and medications which match. From there you can look for a dr/specialist and hopefully get a diagnosis and if they feel appropriate a prescription
     
  6. Big M

    Big M Well-Known Member

    That makes sense. You felt normal because you may have a lack of serotonin naturally occurring in your brain. That is what I have. I noticed the same thing the first time I had a cigarette. It just made me feel "right." I later found out I had a chemical imbalance and was using nicotine to correct it as many mentally ill people do, they self medicate. Real medication works the best though as you don't crash. Trust me medicating mental illness with illegal substances and alcohol or smoking only leads to more pain down the road as well as addiction. Real prescribed medication keeps things balanced much better, I just had to find that out the hard way! I'm not saying you are mentally ill, just describing my similar experience and hoping you take the advice.
     
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  7. Takotsubo

    Takotsubo Well-Known Member

    mmm kay so, i finally decided that I'm going to try and take some meds . But , i don't know where to start . there's a hospital few blocks down , if i go there what the hell do i do? is the hospital the place i'm supposed to go to ... what if i go to a clinic? who am i supposed to talk to ... which doctor? should i tell him about my story that i took an illegal drug . i dont want to seem like im some druggie.
     
  8. Petal

    Petal SF dreamer Staff Alumni SF Supporter

    Hi there, you should go to your general practitioner (general doc) and explain to him why you feel the need to be on such drugs (anti d's or anti anxiety). Tell them how you are feeling/if you have any suicidal thoughts or plans. How low your mood is. Sex drive. Anxiety. How you are sleeping , they will assess you from the information you give them so its important not to leave anything out. They will then either prescribe something or if they think you need further help they will refer you to a psychiatrist. That is usually how it works. :)
     
  9. Moat

    Moat Banned Member

    I normally dislike stating the obvious, but you pretty much answered your own question in the title of your thread and then went on to give a somewhat more detailed explanation in the thread body.
    However as for drugs being illegal, well, all I will say is that it rests in the eye of different countries. What is illegal in one country is not necessarily illegal in another, but personally, I do not touch those drugs (pot, heroine, ice, meth, cocaine, speed etc) nor even alcohol for personal reasons I will not go into.
     
  10. Big M

    Big M Well-Known Member

    Go to your medical doctor. If you have a psychiatrist go to him or her. They will find the right medicine for you. Sometimes it takes time just to warn you, but there is a medicine for almost everyone. Tell him everything, the doctor will not arrest you! You live in the USA like me so the doctor would not betray your trust, they just want to help you. Be honest about the depression. If its been with you for years like mine has that is a chemical balance and you need to tell the doctor that. Most doctors are happy to let you try different types of anti-depressants. If you are suicidal you could go straight to a hospital but that doesnt seem to be the case. Trust me going to a doctor like you are talking about is the first step of getting yourself together. I SO wish I had done this before making all the mistakes I made. And they were big ones.
     
  11. Big M

    Big M Well-Known Member

    And best of luck to you. Really happy to hear you are seeking out help.
     
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