Wormwood Scrubs Programme

Discussion in 'Self Harm & Substance Abuse' started by *dilligaf*, May 10, 2010.

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  1. *dilligaf*

    *dilligaf* Staff Alumni

    Hmm. So I've jsut been watching a programme on Wormwood Scrubs

    There was a few self harmers / attempted suicides etc.

    One of the prison wardens really pissed me off, saying that self harmers only think about themselves, and not about the people who have to pick up the pieces. If only she knew how much self harmers hide to avoid the stigma, and to save other people.

    The worst thing of all? .. It sort of made me miss it.

  2. cownes

    cownes Well-Known Member

    i jsut watched it too and the same woman annoyed me and i found it triggereing :sad: hope it hasnt upset u to much sam :hug:
  3. *dilligaf*

    *dilligaf* Staff Alumni

    :hug: Hope you're ok too x
  4. Aurora Gory Alice

    Aurora Gory Alice Well-Known Member

    I missed it. Anybody know what channel it was on so I can try and watch it online.

    I did see the one about Holloway however, found that very triggering as well. It really annoys me how people are so unwilling to even try and understand. :(
  5. *dilligaf*

    *dilligaf* Staff Alumni

    It was on ITV1 at 9-10pm.
  6. Aurora Gory Alice

    Aurora Gory Alice Well-Known Member

  7. *dilligaf*

    *dilligaf* Staff Alumni

    Tempting ...
  8. Pebble

    Pebble Well-Known Member

    I cant believe that women's attitude - you'd think that she would be more understanding of the prisoners real feelings behind his sh if she actually had a son that tried to kill himself. She is the one who is being selfish - not once while she was telling him he was stupid did she stop to think about how bad he must be feeling to make him turn to that action against himself. He needed support not a lecture! this country is so ignorant!!
  9. lightbeam

    lightbeam Antiquities Friend

    This country over here in the US is just as ignorant.
  10. Kaos General

    Kaos General Well-Known Member

    Hmmm i didnt watch it as ive actually self harmed and been in the scrubs. I can tell you personally that what you have described fits perfectly with the attitude of the prison staff and the nurses who are self proclaimed angels.

    Basically what they do in prisons when you self harm is this:
    1. Taken to the healthcare
    2. Stripped and degraded and get put in clothes you cant make ligatures out of and no underwear.
    3. Open a SH2052 book on you and basically that follows you around the prison so all the other prisoners know what you have done as the officer has to escort you with this orange book in their hands.
    4. Put you back in your cell without getting to the bottom of why you did it in the first place.

    As for the scrubs, its a shit-hole in general and will always remain one. Its the single most worst prison i have ever had the displeasure of being in. As to my knowledge they have only had toilets installed in every cell last time i was there and by all accounts they know have In cell electric. The place needs shutting down as its a dive.
  11. Aurora Gory Alice

    Aurora Gory Alice Well-Known Member

    Wasn't it not so long ago you were saying you were all for the welcoming the death penalty and that prisons were a picnic - something you were advocating to be changed.
    Surely if it's the dive you say it is, then all other prisons should follow suit? Right?
  12. Kaos General

    Kaos General Well-Known Member

    Yes i still do advocate the death penalty but i also believe that prisoners should be held in custody with humanity which many prisons still fail to do.
  13. Aurora Gory Alice

    Aurora Gory Alice Well-Known Member

    Actually changed my opinion on what the guard said about self harming after watching the programme, I kind of see where she was coming from, I think she just phrased it wrong. It appears she was talking mostly about her son than anything.
  14. *dilligaf*

    *dilligaf* Staff Alumni

    Yeah she was talking about her son, but she was almost talking about him as if he was a chore or something. I really didn't like the way she said that, basically, we just leave other people to clean up our mess
  15. Aurora Gory Alice

    Aurora Gory Alice Well-Known Member

    I sometimes get the impression my mum feels like that also.
  16. plates

    plates Well-Known Member

    Pebble- it's like that in our inpatient ward. I haven't seen the programme, but I heard about this yesterday when I was talking to the matron about what I've seen and experienced..being on close observation many years back, I mentioned being an inpatient on "close obs" is like being a prisoner- there is NO interaction about one's health but their own BS being unloaded on to you. It's disgusting, a violation of someone's emotional boundaries and very dangerous, but like my advocate said some people genuinely believe that what they are saying is helpful, especially if they don't know wtf they are doing and have no insight or confidence.
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