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lol, I developed that belief during my internship at child protection services. Maybe it could be said that i'm a burnt out social worker but working with the worst things in this life have solidified that belief. Pretty pro-abortion and pro-sterilization for that matter. 
Have a great day!
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lol, I developed that belief during my internship at child protection services. Maybe it could be said that i'm a burnt out social worker but working with the worst things in this life have solidified that belief. Pretty pro-abortion and pro-sterilization for that matter. Have a great day!
Have a great day!
Where the hell did I say that the foetus wasn't human? LOL. Someone needs to actually READ instead of throwing outrageous accusations around. I was saying that a foetus cannot survive outside of the human body before 24 weeks because it is simply not developed enough. That is not opinion, that is a FACT. So if the foetus cannot survive before then and the mother had a heart wrenching choice to abort then I agree with it because it is impossible for the foetus to survive and it is better for the foetus and the mother to make the choice as early as possible because the foetus is just a mish mash of developing cells so on and so forth. If you read my original point aborting a baby is not an easy option but what is right for the child? For it to be born in an unloved environment? To grow up feeling unloved and unwanted because the mother was forced into having them? And actually, for your information, I did have a miscarriage 3 years ago so don't even throw that one at me. Comments like that are aggressive, hurtful and not necessary.
I think this is a bad topic for a suicide forum. Some of us are here dealing with this exact issue and it's not cool for this topic to keep coming up and giving us a chance to see just how harshly some people would judge us.
I've had an abortion and I've had miscarriages, the two are nothing alike but both carry pain for the woman.
It was not an easy decision to make, to abort, but I did what I felt was best for my family and for the child, and while there was some post abortion guilt, I still know I did the right thing. But it is hurtful to see some of the things people have to say, so to each of you who are hell bent against abortion;
Imagine you have been raped (if you are a woman), now think objectively - Would you be able to look at that child and not relive every second of that horrible act? If it grew to look just like the father, would you be able to love it the way a mother should? Or would the child suffer because you are harboring upset feelings and resentment for what happened to you?
If you are a man and your wife/partner was raped - Would you be willing to raise another man's baby, when that man didn't have permission to create it? When he defiled and used and assaulted the woman you love? Would you be able to love that child none the less, unconditionally?
Think objectively, all of us would like to think that we could do it, that we wouldn't think twice about it and that we would have nothing but complete unconditional love for the child, even I thought this way before I was actually put into that position, but once you are there, it is completely different.
I've had an abortion and I've had miscarriages, the two are nothing alike but both carry pain for the woman.
It was not an easy decision to make, to abort, but I did what I felt was best for my family and for the child, and while there was some post abortion guilt, I still know I did the right thing. But it is hurtful to see some of the things people have to say, so to each of you who are hell bent against abortion;
Imagine you have been raped (if you are a woman), now think objectively - Would you be able to look at that child and not relive every second of that horrible act? If it grew to look just like the father, would you be able to love it the way a mother should? Or would the child suffer because you are harboring upset feelings and resentment for what happened to you?
If you are a man and your wife/partner was raped - Would you be willing to raise another man's baby, when that man didn't have permission to create it? When he defiled and used and assaulted the woman you love? Would you be able to love that child none the less, unconditionally?
Think objectively, all of us would like to think that we could do it, that we wouldn't think twice about it and that we would have nothing but complete unconditional love for the child, even I thought this way before I was actually put into that position, but once you are there, it is completely different.
Maybe not required abortion, but required birth control should be imposed on mother's with 3 or more children who are using the welfare system, the same as drug testing should be. But I don't think forcing a woman to have an abortion is right in any way, under any circumstances.
Even here, in the US women continue to have more children to avoid the time limits set for welfare programs, when it's about to run out on them they get pregnant again. So mandate birth control, if a woman with 3 kids on welfare becomes pregnant, give her 90 days to get a damn job and at the 90 day mark, take the benefits away; if she still can't support her kids because she didn't get a job, take the same measures as would be taken with any unfit parent and put the kids in a better home where they can be supported and taken care of.
People will argue that mandating birth control of any kind is a Human rights infringement in Europe, and infringement on our constitutional rights in the US, but when government funds are being used and abused there has to be a way of controlling it.
Even here, in the US women continue to have more children to avoid the time limits set for welfare programs, when it's about to run out on them they get pregnant again. So mandate birth control, if a woman with 3 kids on welfare becomes pregnant, give her 90 days to get a damn job and at the 90 day mark, take the benefits away; if she still can't support her kids because she didn't get a job, take the same measures as would be taken with any unfit parent and put the kids in a better home where they can be supported and taken care of.
People will argue that mandating birth control of any kind is a Human rights infringement in Europe, and infringement on our constitutional rights in the US, but when government funds are being used and abused there has to be a way of controlling it.
I agree, but sometimes curiosity gets the best of a person and we just feel like we need to see what people are saying;
If everyone could express their opinions without making one side feel as though they are being bashed on it wouldn't be a problem, but a lot of people are incapable of that :/
While I am hurt by some of the comments on this thread, I am not upset enough that it will trigger any dangerous thoughts for me, I know what I did was right and no one can change my mind about that by simply saying that I am wrong, but other's may not have so much control over their emotions, I just worry for them.
If everyone could express their opinions without making one side feel as though they are being bashed on it wouldn't be a problem, but a lot of people are incapable of that :/
While I am hurt by some of the comments on this thread, I am not upset enough that it will trigger any dangerous thoughts for me, I know what I did was right and no one can change my mind about that by simply saying that I am wrong, but other's may not have so much control over their emotions, I just worry for them.
Also there is too many people in the world already and somebody needs to say that. I heard recently that around 80yrs ago there were 2.5billion now it's just topped 7billion and it's gonna be 10-11 billion by 2050. Come the fuck on,too many people. They've gotta start limiting childbirth now surely?
For the welfare system? Or everyone in general? And either way, how would it drive up crime rates? I hadn't thought of that and don't understand how.
I think it is a good idea to drug test people on welfare and kick them off if they fail. If they are spending their benefits on drugs they aren't using it for it's intended use and shouldn't be allowed to use government money to get stoned.
I think it is a good idea to drug test people on welfare and kick them off if they fail. If they are spending their benefits on drugs they aren't using it for it's intended use and shouldn't be allowed to use government money to get stoned.
Yes, sort of. Anyway, seeing as you are from the US i will explain what i mean when i say abortion should be mandatory for anyone who has been on benefits for more than 3 years. In the UK we have council waiting lists for the homeless and the unemployed, generally everyone who cannot afford their own home. Now their are a certain breed of people in this country who pop out kids by the dozen just to goto the top of that waiting list and get priority. Often over soldiers who have left the army and the homeless who are sleeping rough on the streets. They know full well that having a kid automatically guarantees them a flat or house within a few weeks so they go and sleep with whoever just to get pregnant.
Wow, I would never have imagined such a thing! It sounds similar to the Housing Authority we have here (HUD), but there are requirements, programs one is required to enter such as job training, in order to qualify, and even if you qualify, you could be months waiting for a place to open up and it's usually a crappy rental and you still have to pay a percentage of the rent. That percentage is based on income and increases the longer you live there until you are paying the full rent; you are required to log hours looking for work even after you finish the training program in most states, and once you acquire employment you are reevaluated to see how much your portion increases and you have 10 days to report any changes in income. It's pretty well regulated, but the income requirements are based on how many dependents you have, so I would have to assume that the abuse you described may be occurring over here as well.
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