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Boss is mad at me

#1
Because of where my mental health has been the past 6 months and because of ongoing alcohol issues (causing next day hangovers and depression) I’ve struggled significantly getting to work. It started out with sporadic absences and being late a few days. My boss at the time had a serious talk with me about it but shortly thereafter she moved to a new job. About 3 months ago things got worse and after a bunch of absences and tardies I took a three week approved absence, hoping that would help me get some things together. It worked briefly but I eventually ended up returning to my pattern of absences and tardies. Since then I have missed about a day a week with the exception of two weeks ago. I thought I finally had it under control - I was on time and at work for 9 days in a row and then I fucked up and got drunk Thursday and overslept Friday morning. I was then too scared to face my boss and called in. Now I have to go to work tomorrow morning and I’m terrified to see her. She has just complimented me on Wednesday for doing better and now I messed up again. She is aware of what’s going on with me but obviously has a department to run regardless. Unfortunately my therapist is not willing to fill out FMLA paperwork for me so these are not legally protected absences. I’m freaking out tonight knowing that I have to go back to work tomorrow and face her. On top of it, I have an hour long presentation to do in the morning and have meetings from 7:30-2 with no break. It’s going to be a long, stressful day and then I will surely have to meet with her after to be scolded yet again. I’m just dreading it... any sympathy or words of advice appreciated.
 

nobodyknows71

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#2
I'm not sure I have sympathy but I do understand. My advice would be to go to work smash that presentation so she will have one less reason to fire you. Then when you get the meeting with her that is bound to come you need to make a decision. You can pay lip service to her say your sorry it won't happen again blah blah blah, or you can tell her what's going on, why you messed up and why you called in sick instead of facing her for being late. But you know for her to give you another chance she needs to believe you mean it.
I guess the question you need to ask yourself is are you actually willing to put in more effort with your job and if so what are you going to do to change your behaviour on a more permanent basis. Or are you just saying what you think others want to hear. What I didn't see in your post was remorse and a plan to change. I get why you'd be nervous to face her, but you never mentioned being sorry for messing her around and an intent to do better.

Good luck with it all, I hope it goes the way you want.

Keep us posted
 
#3
I’m not sure the harshness of your post is warranted or very helpful. Like most who struggle with mental health issues I feel an intense amount of guilt when I don’t keep my commitments and it’s certainly not done on purpose to “mess her around.” It’s not really so much of a question of effort, as I do make an effort daily to be there and be on time but sometimes I’m overwhelmed by depression and anxiety and sometimes I’m overwhelmed by this as a result of drinking (though not always) which is what causes me to drink in the first place. I am taking steps to remedy this - I’m on medication and I see a therapist - but I was hoping to hear from those who may have first hand experience with this issue and have been in this position before.
 

Singularity Platy

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#4
My advice would be to accept where you are at the moment and face your boss. I was fired three times because I was too depressed to go to work. Recently I had to quit my job because I became too depressed. It's also very hard to explain to people your mental health problems (I didn't and couldn't) but the thing that helped me was to accept my capacity at that moment, and then focus on getting help and getting better. If you don't do anything, nothing will change. If you must speak to your boss and explain the situation, make sure to tell her about your plan to get supported too. If your boss is kind and understanding (from your post, I can tell that she might be), she can also help you with coming up with a workable plan. One small step at one time and just focus on your progress. You have made some progress, just focus on that instead of trying to be 'functional' instantly. The pressure of having to be perfect can also backfire and make things worse.
 

JmpMster

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#5
I’m not sure the harshness of your post is warranted or very helpful. Like most who struggle with mental health issues I feel an intense amount of guilt when I don’t keep my commitments and it’s certainly not done on purpose to “mess her around.” It’s not really so much of a question of effort, as I do make an effort daily to be there and be on time but sometimes I’m overwhelmed by depression and anxiety and sometimes I’m overwhelmed by this as a result of drinking (though not always) which is what causes me to drink in the first place. I am taking steps to remedy this - I’m on medication and I see a therapist - but I was hoping to hear from those who may have first hand experience with this issue and have been in this position before.

The issue is while depression and other mental illnesses are largely accepted and get sympathy/compassion- when the admitted issue is alcoholism it is far less easy for most to understand. With depression or any physical illness there is no "choice" involved. It is there - you have to deal with it/live with it the best you can, come what may. With alcoholism it is all about choice. Not in any way implying it is an "easy" choice or simple, but you did manage 9 days, on Thursday you chose to drink instead of think about work or the repercussions, so a great many will have the opinion of you make your bed now lie in it. I am not trying to speak for the member that wrote that reply in any way- I am speaking of my own observations and understandings having tried for 2 years to help my sister in law deal with her alcoholism, giving her a place to live, supporting her , taking to rehab and appts, etc... Even with "family" you love it is very very hard to understand why it is so hard to simply choose not to drink knowing the results when you do. By the sounds you have far more control over it than my sister-in-law did - she had already lost all jobs, lost children/husband, and everything and was staying with us as opposed to being homeless (fwiw she died - froze to death a few days before xmas 3 years ago after getting drunk and passing out on the lawn in front of house in 5f weather).

Having dealt with her for 2 years and seeing the end result I came to realize a couple things- there is a lot of anger by all that are effected because no matter how hard we try we cannot simply accept that it is not in the end a "choice" , and secondly she was never ever happy- hated herself and her life and what she was, and in her mind it was not a choice regardless of what anybody else thought. Choice or not, it was beyond her ability to choose differently so I guess it was not really a choice for her if she was unable to choose differently after numerous stints in rehab, a year in jail following 3rd dwi, and a 100% supportive family that ensured she had no need for anything. If that is not where you already are than I really urge you to consider if there is any choice at all left in it for you to realize that choice is and will continue disappearing until it is not anymore.

I am sorry you do not feel supported- I do have sympathy for your situation and hope more than you could ever know that you are able to overcome it. But I , like many others, do still in the end believe the only thing that can make the situation better is you - by making the choice when you get home to not drink- and making that choice each and every time from now til forever because for you that is the only time when you have any control- before you take that drink. The depression and other issues / the drinking/ which comes first the chicken or the egg// do you drink because of the depression or do you have depression because you drink- all of that is irrelevant tbh- because there is only 1 aspect you can control.

If you make the effort to control that aspect and hold yourself accountable I do hope your boss gives you the chance you deserve. Enrolling in any insurance sponsored rehab programs / employer sponsored things, and giving them permission to discuss your situation with your employer so they can help her determine what control you have and if you deserve more leeway is a possible way to get her to consider going out on the limb again. I do hope it works out- I do understand it is very very hard and may seem impossible, and I do hope you are able to overcome it.
 

nobodyknows71

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#6
I don't agree that my reply was harsh I can only comment on what you post. If I'd seen the slightest bit of regret or remorse in your post then maybe my reply would have been different.

You're therapist won't give you FMLA. Why would they? Your absences were mostly cause by hangovers.

You have to do a presentation? Yes it's called working.

No break? it won't hurt to do so a few hours work uninterrupted.

Your going to be 'scolded'? Why is that?

I understand you think I'm being harsh and I get a feeling we're won't see eye to eye in this.

I'll back out you thread and maybe you'll get the sympathy you want from another member.

Good luck
 
#7
Wow, what is even the point of posting in this forum? Yes, working for 8 hours without a break and having to do public speaking exacerbates my anxiety. You’re essentially telling me to suck it up..? What’s the point of this forum? Lol like I literally don’t get it at all.
 

Petal

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#8
Hi there, are you taking medication for the anxiety? Are you in therapy?

I used to self medicate with alcohol many years ago, it doesn't help in the long run, would going to AA help do you think?

Cut down on the alcohol and get back on your great run of days at work, get back in your bosses good books, do what the clock does, keep going. Hoping all went well today. Please let me know how your day went, i'm hoping your boss didn't lash out too hard. I suffer from bad anxiety as well. It's a bitch but we have to make the most of the hands we were dealt but you have a degree of control.

I think you may have felt some of the ''harsh'' responses were uncalled for - but sometimes we all need a wake up call from time to time and in that I mean not to choose that drink of alcohol over such important things as work, you're in total control here. I mean that in the nicest way possible. Wishing you a nice day, please let us know how you got on today.
 
#9
Thank you for your reply :)

Monday and Tuesday went well. My boss didn’t even mention Friday at all - I think because we’ve been so busy the past few days. I’ve been trying to go above and beyond to make up for it. I offered to work a special event tonight so I have a 14 hour day coming up. Worth it if I can be back in her good graces again. Things are going well.
 

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