How’s Your Therapy Going?
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That’s a shame that the sessions were stopped, it sounded like they were what you needed at that time in your life.
I get some physical symptoms which I take propranalol for and I do get a bit of a dodgy stomach depending on how anxious I’m feeling. Do you have anyone that could maybe go with you to this appointment? Do you think that could help at all or would that not make a difference?
Thank you
I hope it does too. Yeah it’s one to one sessions with the nurse and then it progresses to like group sessions where we problem solve different situations together in order to learn how to deal with things in less problematic or harmful ways. It sounds good, 2 years sounds like a long time but I reckon it will probably fly by.
I get some physical symptoms which I take propranalol for and I do get a bit of a dodgy stomach depending on how anxious I’m feeling. Do you have anyone that could maybe go with you to this appointment? Do you think that could help at all or would that not make a difference?
Thank you
I hope it does too. Yeah it’s one to one sessions with the nurse and then it progresses to like group sessions where we problem solve different situations together in order to learn how to deal with things in less problematic or harmful ways. It sounds good, 2 years sounds like a long time but I reckon it will probably fly by.
That’s a shame that the sessions were stopped, it sounded like they were what you needed at that time in your life.
I get some physical symptoms which I take propranalol for and I do get a bit of a dodgy stomach depending on how anxious I’m feeling. Do you have anyone that could maybe go with you to this appointment? Do you think that could help at all or would that not make a difference?
Thank you I hope it does too. Yeah it’s one to one sessions with the nurse and then it progresses to like group sessions where we problem solve different situations together in order to learn how to deal with things in less problematic or harmful ways. It sounds good, 2 years sounds like a long time but I reckon it will probably fly by.
I get some physical symptoms which I take propranalol for and I do get a bit of a dodgy stomach depending on how anxious I’m feeling. Do you have anyone that could maybe go with you to this appointment? Do you think that could help at all or would that not make a difference?
Thank you
I hope it does too. Yeah it’s one to one sessions with the nurse and then it progresses to like group sessions where we problem solve different situations together in order to learn how to deal with things in less problematic or harmful ways. It sounds good, 2 years sounds like a long time but I reckon it will probably fly by.
Yeah that might be good to ease you in to it. I hope it works out for you, whilst waiting for your appointment you can always come on the forum on your mobile phone if possible and send me a message. I’m usually on at some point most days and I’ll chat with you whilst you’re waiting. Or you can always go on chat and someone is likely to chat to you and help put your mind at ease. I know it’s not the same as someone physically being there with you but it might help a bit.
thanks man its not helping i have never had an operation in my life been lucky for 44 years i guess only good thing about this is its more cosmetic surgery than heart surgery
just hope i dont get myself all worked up about it ho to see the consultant get a plan and they say you need to wait on the waiting list and give me some meds that would be a pain in the ass
just hope i dont get myself all worked up about it ho to see the consultant get a plan and they say you need to wait on the waiting list and give me some meds that would be a pain in the ass
Just had my second appointment went over my childhood more and my hopes for the future if the surgery goes well or otherwise also suggested i talk to my doctor about anti depressant meds to keep my mood on the level not sure how that will work when you cannot even get a doctors appointment here right now
Its not going at all...
I have been watching videos and reading stuff, but I feel i have gotten all I can from self help, it comes down to support, aside from on here I have no support and feel like i am lacking direction in recovery. I don't think its something that can be done alone.
Still waiting on that referral for psychiatry. My gp has also referred me (without my knowledge) to someone called a patient care navigator. I have no idea what this is except that its part of behavioral health. The reason for this referral is because I have been "having some problems with tests"
These "problems" are, I don't agree with the gp on some things, and I don't have the time nor the money to be taking day trips to another town over an hour away. Besides these tests are expensive and even if I did have insurance, I'd still be unable to afford the co pay. And gas.
I do need to see a specialist, but what am I supposed to do? I can't fucking afford it.
Any rate, it makes me nervous, why the necessity of bringing in another person? I have an appt with the gp tomorrow, why wouldn't she wait and talk to me about it first? I've never had a referral that I didn't agree to.
The patient care lady was evasive when I questioned her for more info "we will take about it at our appt."
Am I being paranoid or is there an element of secrecy here? To be honest I am very nervous about all of this.
I have been watching videos and reading stuff, but I feel i have gotten all I can from self help, it comes down to support, aside from on here I have no support and feel like i am lacking direction in recovery. I don't think its something that can be done alone.
Still waiting on that referral for psychiatry. My gp has also referred me (without my knowledge) to someone called a patient care navigator. I have no idea what this is except that its part of behavioral health. The reason for this referral is because I have been "having some problems with tests"
These "problems" are, I don't agree with the gp on some things, and I don't have the time nor the money to be taking day trips to another town over an hour away. Besides these tests are expensive and even if I did have insurance, I'd still be unable to afford the co pay. And gas.
I do need to see a specialist, but what am I supposed to do? I can't fucking afford it.
Any rate, it makes me nervous, why the necessity of bringing in another person? I have an appt with the gp tomorrow, why wouldn't she wait and talk to me about it first? I've never had a referral that I didn't agree to.
The patient care lady was evasive when I questioned her for more info "we will take about it at our appt."
Am I being paranoid or is there an element of secrecy here? To be honest I am very nervous about all of this.
This gives me a lot of thoughts and ideas on how you could handle this situation Astrid. I wish we could be sitting in the same room and just throwing around ideas. writing them down here would make it seem like this is my position on things but really it's many ideas as suggestions, not necessarily parts of my belief system. if you're interested, we can talk here or pm or chat, whichever is the most comfortable for you. my preference would be here since I want to share these ideas in an "in general" kind of way with the community. but still ideas that I think apply to what you've been saying about your therapy.
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I'm not sure I understand completely what you are saying, all the therapists/m.h. workers I've recently seen have all bailed. There is no one "there" while everyone here has been supportive, its not enough, there are things I am dealing with that I can't really talk about on here. Years of ignoring and pushing these things away has caught up to me and I am at a loss as to where to go with it. The self help provided a lot of insight and validation but its like "now what?"
I can't talk here about some things too. so maybe I can't explain as well as I'd like to. but a point I was trying to make was that if… wait, i think i never felt that my therapists were doing anything at all. but they were there. my present therapist is like a surrogate friend. i don’t know if she sees it that way though. i had a lot of extra unnecessary feelings toward my first therapist that blinded me about a lot. my therapist from the intensive program/group therapy i think was not always that honest and i’ve described myself as a freak here a few times and sometimes that therapist gave me looks like that is what he thought of me. but somehow, i managed to evolve in a forward motion kind of way. it might sound corny even to say “…but you gotta want to change”, and i do think that that is true, but then when someone says it, the immediate feeling is that that implies that the one in therapy maybe doesn’t want to change, but that is not the case. i think therapy kind of tells us that a really good therapist will do real work that will help us change. that is not true. i think a therapist can be “bad” or seem bad but still be good. or vice versa. this is not what i originally wanted to say but maybe it is. i think i said, what i have in my mind is difficult to explain. or idk. i think what i’m trying to say is that a good therapist is just a person in the room, being someone. then you can like her/him/other, or not and think good or bad or anywhere in between but that person in the room is the thing that you need and the process may be way more convoluted that one might expect. i’m not sure this is any better than what i said before but maybe it is. i hope…
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I understand what you are saying and just not sure how it relates to me I guess, no one seems interested in talking with me, much less being in the same room lol Thanks for your always kind replys
disheartened....you could not have picked a better word, it seems the people here I have talked to are more worried about liabilities and policy then whether or not I kill myself.
I was in for a med review, they had a psychologist from behavior health come talk with me, she told me last year she couldn't help me, so I'm not sure why she botherd this time.
They keep trying to dump me on the Mha, yet they have refused to deal with me for two fucking years now, even during the first court order. Of course, no one believes me when I say the workers at mental health don't return my phone calls, I didn't bother telling the drs the last time I inquired about therapy through mental health, the lady I was speaking with just laughed.
No one ever believes me when I say how I get treated.
I was in for a med review, they had a psychologist from behavior health come talk with me, she told me last year she couldn't help me, so I'm not sure why she botherd this time.
They keep trying to dump me on the Mha, yet they have refused to deal with me for two fucking years now, even during the first court order. Of course, no one believes me when I say the workers at mental health don't return my phone calls, I didn't bother telling the drs the last time I inquired about therapy through mental health, the lady I was speaking with just laughed.
No one ever believes me when I say how I get treated.
i guessed right!
Astrid, I think in any area - and particularly those that are assoicated with mental health - the expectation is that each patient/client/member fits the mould - perhaps making the assumption that “we deal with xyz and if you are here then you must be xyz“. but if you happen to stray away from that description, they see you as a misfit, a fighter, a troublemaker. i’ve found myself in that situation in mhc, and even on specialized “support” support groups where support became unavailable because i must have said something that they felt was outside of their scope of things. maybe it makes them look unqualified. certainly not my intent but it did happen. i wish experts in one thing could also realize that a lack of knowledge about something is not necessarily a bad thing, especially if they realize showing a desire and effort to find the answer makes them look really admirable to the patient (to me anyway).
sadly those who make assumptions when it comes to mental health are doing everyone a disservice. but they don’t even realize that. they think they are avoiding, or removing, or isolating someone who has just arrived to cause trouble. more than anything they don’t want trouble. it is amazing that they expect no trouble where illness is concerned.
i also think that certain people in authority may have somehow had personal experience and found their own solutions. these solutions worked for them so they think the same solutions will work for everyone. once again, when it doesn’t, they get angry at the patient.
and of course, medical doctors and psychologists and licensed social workers spend many years in school and training so they think now they know all there is to know. i think we all accept that they do know quite a lot, they then expect a patient to automatically fully accept the knowledge they are passing along but don’t seem to understand that accepting is not always an easy thing. they know patients have issues that may make accepting at least difficult but then they treat the patient like a naughty child or worse a criminal which tends to be counter productive.
in short, mental healthcare needs to be a full time thing with an open dialogue between mh professionals, patient, family, and others who are connected to the healing of the patient. i wonder what year that is going to happen.
this is why i say the patient has to be able to use the therapist - good or bad - in order to make therapy work. i believe that most likely there is “common ground” that can be tapped into.
Astrid, I think in any area - and particularly those that are assoicated with mental health - the expectation is that each patient/client/member fits the mould - perhaps making the assumption that “we deal with xyz and if you are here then you must be xyz“. but if you happen to stray away from that description, they see you as a misfit, a fighter, a troublemaker. i’ve found myself in that situation in mhc, and even on specialized “support” support groups where support became unavailable because i must have said something that they felt was outside of their scope of things. maybe it makes them look unqualified. certainly not my intent but it did happen. i wish experts in one thing could also realize that a lack of knowledge about something is not necessarily a bad thing, especially if they realize showing a desire and effort to find the answer makes them look really admirable to the patient (to me anyway).
sadly those who make assumptions when it comes to mental health are doing everyone a disservice. but they don’t even realize that. they think they are avoiding, or removing, or isolating someone who has just arrived to cause trouble. more than anything they don’t want trouble. it is amazing that they expect no trouble where illness is concerned.
i also think that certain people in authority may have somehow had personal experience and found their own solutions. these solutions worked for them so they think the same solutions will work for everyone. once again, when it doesn’t, they get angry at the patient.
and of course, medical doctors and psychologists and licensed social workers spend many years in school and training so they think now they know all there is to know. i think we all accept that they do know quite a lot, they then expect a patient to automatically fully accept the knowledge they are passing along but don’t seem to understand that accepting is not always an easy thing. they know patients have issues that may make accepting at least difficult but then they treat the patient like a naughty child or worse a criminal which tends to be counter productive.
in short, mental healthcare needs to be a full time thing with an open dialogue between mh professionals, patient, family, and others who are connected to the healing of the patient. i wonder what year that is going to happen.
this is why i say the patient has to be able to use the therapist - good or bad - in order to make therapy work. i believe that most likely there is “common ground” that can be tapped into.
two important ideas pertaining to my therapy and probably for all, i mentioned in a thread posted elsewhere. what i want to point out is that i believe it is wrong to use terminology such as “mental” and “client” when it comes to healthcare.
healthcare is healthcare and that includes illnesses/disorders of the mind/thought processes. we should lose the connotations that “mental” has. i don’t think this is just a case of ”words”.
and “client“ is a customer/provider term and not a healthcare term.
“patient” applies to a person seeing a professional trained in addressing/treating health issues - which issues of the mind are a part.
“client” is a name in the relationship of someone buying jelly beans and the store that sells them, or other buyer seller arrangement including for profit health insurance that has a way of warping the intent of healthcare….
i really do think we need to change how we think about therapy and healthcare in order to make significant improvements in therapy and healthcare in general.
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healthcare is healthcare and that includes illnesses/disorders of the mind/thought processes. we should lose the connotations that “mental” has. i don’t think this is just a case of ”words”.
and “client“ is a customer/provider term and not a healthcare term.
“patient” applies to a person seeing a professional trained in addressing/treating health issues - which issues of the mind are a part.
“client” is a name in the relationship of someone buying jelly beans and the store that sells them, or other buyer seller arrangement including for profit health insurance that has a way of warping the intent of healthcare….
i really do think we need to change how we think about therapy and healthcare in order to make significant improvements in therapy and healthcare in general.
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