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Hang in there, Princess! Fret-not, for to compare your-self, to "others," is a recipe for 'failure,' (unless you're at the TOP OF THE CLESS!) : )
I watching a documentary on this med school class from Harvard, and they went through their entire progression. And this one student, who came into medicine from a bit of different background - it may have been something more mechanically inclined, or working on cars I just can't remember for sure. But so he tells the story of how he would sit on his Mothers lap at the age of 5, and read to her a book, or I guess it was... Have her read the book, then he'd go 7 sit on her lap, & say "Now, MOM! I know you didn't understand that - so let me just explain it to you. . ." Then I remember when I was taking (& flunking) gross anatomy in grad school. Anyway, was it here, or was it there in the documentary? It was in one place or the other & now the more than I think of it, I'm certain it was from the Harvard program. So one of them was saying to their instructors, you know what/.? It was the fella taht i was talking about thefre: the mechanis or whatever he was (prior to). And so anyway he marches right on into his anatamoy lab & says to the professor, "I'm going to learn everything there is to know about anatomy, every last thing!" And the professor goes, "No Body Knows Every Last Thing, ...(Unless yo8u'ree an Anatomist; or what-ever they're called?)." And so that shook him - or, woke him up at least, to soem of the realities with which he was facing in his relatively newfound passion in studying medicine. You may not be able to master every last detail, every single step of the way, the first go around. And then I'm reminded of anotehr thing somebody told me from high school, who was like #2 in the class above me. She had said, after having been out of O. T. school for a little while (few years maybe), that once you get into working on patients & things, it then becomes so much easier to remember these anatomical structures, because you have a place of application for them to be remebered by. (Or words to that effect). I also know that, sometijmes, as it was explained to me by a classmate in pharm school, it can feel a bit likegetting blasted w/a fire hose in the face, during your early years there. But then, what happens is that, eventually when those subjects come around againn, or they need to be apllied in order to learn higher leverl class/es or courses, or whatever~ / that-that is where it then begins to resonate and sink in. Like, you may not master it just yet, but the second go around, even if it is just a quick "refresher," will be much easier for having slogged through it & doing all of that hard lifting or labor the first, or initial go-around, or time. In short: do the best you can, and then let the cards fall where they may. Another thing I'd heard said once, was that once you get out into the world of medicine & are working where ever it is that you are working; nobody (patient) is going to come running up to you and say, "Please tell me what your grades were in anatomy in school!" (I'm just dying to know...)
-if you pass your boards, and know what you are doing, I'm sure will do a good job & be competent at your work. It is a lot to take in at once, and what made our class in particular so challenging for me, anyway, as it should have been more a piece of cake, given how much memorization was involved, - but I guess there were other forces at play as well - but so anyway what was so hard was that you'd go & learn say 500 structures. Close your eyes. And picture it & its location in your mind. Only then, can you move on and know that you've "gotten-it." (realize that's a bit of an absurd standard but depends on your level of perfectionism, I guess, or more importantly how your mind works & learns. . .) but then you'd go into the lab next day for the exam. And there'd be like 15 things! 15? That's it... Not. for, me~* D: opps!
I watching a documentary on this med school class from Harvard, and they went through their entire progression. And this one student, who came into medicine from a bit of different background - it may have been something more mechanically inclined, or working on cars I just can't remember for sure. But so he tells the story of how he would sit on his Mothers lap at the age of 5, and read to her a book, or I guess it was... Have her read the book, then he'd go 7 sit on her lap, & say "Now, MOM! I know you didn't understand that - so let me just explain it to you. . ." Then I remember when I was taking (& flunking) gross anatomy in grad school. Anyway, was it here, or was it there in the documentary? It was in one place or the other & now the more than I think of it, I'm certain it was from the Harvard program. So one of them was saying to their instructors, you know what/.? It was the fella taht i was talking about thefre: the mechanis or whatever he was (prior to). And so anyway he marches right on into his anatamoy lab & says to the professor, "I'm going to learn everything there is to know about anatomy, every last thing!" And the professor goes, "No Body Knows Every Last Thing, ...(Unless yo8u'ree an Anatomist; or what-ever they're called?)." And so that shook him - or, woke him up at least, to soem of the realities with which he was facing in his relatively newfound passion in studying medicine. You may not be able to master every last detail, every single step of the way, the first go around. And then I'm reminded of anotehr thing somebody told me from high school, who was like #2 in the class above me. She had said, after having been out of O. T. school for a little while (few years maybe), that once you get into working on patients & things, it then becomes so much easier to remember these anatomical structures, because you have a place of application for them to be remebered by. (Or words to that effect). I also know that, sometijmes, as it was explained to me by a classmate in pharm school, it can feel a bit likegetting blasted w/a fire hose in the face, during your early years there. But then, what happens is that, eventually when those subjects come around againn, or they need to be apllied in order to learn higher leverl class/es or courses, or whatever~ / that-that is where it then begins to resonate and sink in. Like, you may not master it just yet, but the second go around, even if it is just a quick "refresher," will be much easier for having slogged through it & doing all of that hard lifting or labor the first, or initial go-around, or time. In short: do the best you can, and then let the cards fall where they may. Another thing I'd heard said once, was that once you get out into the world of medicine & are working where ever it is that you are working; nobody (patient) is going to come running up to you and say, "Please tell me what your grades were in anatomy in school!" (I'm just dying to know...)
-if you pass your boards, and know what you are doing, I'm sure will do a good job & be competent at your work. It is a lot to take in at once, and what made our class in particular so challenging for me, anyway, as it should have been more a piece of cake, given how much memorization was involved, - but I guess there were other forces at play as well - but so anyway what was so hard was that you'd go & learn say 500 structures. Close your eyes. And picture it & its location in your mind. Only then, can you move on and know that you've "gotten-it." (realize that's a bit of an absurd standard but depends on your level of perfectionism, I guess, or more importantly how your mind works & learns. . .) but then you'd go into the lab next day for the exam. And there'd be like 15 things! 15? That's it... Not. for, me~* D: opps!
anxiety a little high for no reason, it happens so no big deal, i'll probably take a lorazepam later . other than that i feel pretty good. pain was low this morning 4 on the 10 scale around 5 now, but i still havent taken any pain meds so that's a good start. i am still very happy that i was able to change my attitude on life a year or two ago. now i love life
mike
mike
i'll be interested in looking at it. i have absolutey no artistic ability but maybe could do a paint by #s. you have given me inspiration, i may try it
mike.....
mike.....
I found a new app that helps with sleep. It's called Bettersleep. It has white noise, green noise, brown noise, etc. and sounds like rain and the ocean, a fan, thunder. It records the sound in your bedroom while you sleep if you want it to, to analyze whether you talk in your sleep or whatever else. It also has meditations and stories. Seems pretty cool overall so I decided to try it.
Hang in there, Princess! Fret-not, for to compare your-self, to "others," is a recipe for 'failure,' (unless you're at the TOP OF THE CLESS!) : )
I watching a documentary on this med school class from Harvard, and they went through their entire progression. And this one student, who came into medicine from a bit of different background - it may have been something more mechanically inclined, or working on cars I just can't remember for sure. But so he tells the story of how he would sit on his Mothers lap at the age of 5, and read to her a book, or I guess it was... Have her read the book, then he'd go 7 sit on her lap, & say "Now, MOM! I know you didn't understand that - so let me just explain it to you. . ." Then I remember when I was taking (& flunking) gross anatomy in grad school. Anyway, was it here, or was it there in the documentary? It was in one place or the other & now the more than I think of it, I'm certain it was from the Harvard program. So one of them was saying to their instructors, you know what/.? It was the fella taht i was talking about thefre: the mechanis or whatever he was (prior to). And so anyway he marches right on into his anatamoy lab & says to the professor, "I'm going to learn everything there is to know about anatomy, every last thing!" And the professor goes, "No Body Knows Every Last Thing, ...(Unless yo8u'ree an Anatomist; or what-ever they're called?)." And so that shook him - or, woke him up at least, to soem of the realities with which he was facing in his relatively newfound passion in studying medicine. You may not be able to master every last detail, every single step of the way, the first go around. And then I'm reminded of anotehr thing somebody told me from high school, who was like #2 in the class above me. She had said, after having been out of O. T. school for a little while (few years maybe), that once you get into working on patients & things, it then becomes so much easier to remember these anatomical structures, because you have a place of application for them to be remebered by. (Or words to that effect). I also know that, sometijmes, as it was explained to me by a classmate in pharm school, it can feel a bit likegetting blasted w/a fire hose in the face, during your early years there. But then, what happens is that, eventually when those subjects come around againn, or they need to be apllied in order to learn higher leverl class/es or courses, or whatever~ / that-that is where it then begins to resonate and sink in. Like, you may not master it just yet, but the second go around, even if it is just a quick "refresher," will be much easier for having slogged through it & doing all of that hard lifting or labor the first, or initial go-around, or time. In short: do the best you can, and then let the cards fall where they may. Another thing I'd heard said once, was that once you get out into the world of medicine & are working where ever it is that you are working; nobody (patient) is going to come running up to you and say, "Please tell me what your grades were in anatomy in school!" (I'm just dying to know...) -if you pass your boards, and know what you are doing, I'm sure will do a good job & be competent at your work. It is a lot to take in at once, and what made our class in particular so challenging for me, anyway, as it should have been more a piece of cake, given how much memorization was involved, - but I guess there were other forces at play as well - but so anyway what was so hard was that you'd go & learn say 500 structures. Close your eyes. And picture it & its location in your mind. Only then, can you move on and know that you've "gotten-it." (realize that's a bit of an absurd standard but depends on your level of perfectionism, I guess, or more importantly how your mind works & learns. . .) but then you'd go into the lab next day for the exam. And there'd be like 15 things! 15? That's it... Not. for, me~* D: opps!
I watching a documentary on this med school class from Harvard, and they went through their entire progression. And this one student, who came into medicine from a bit of different background - it may have been something more mechanically inclined, or working on cars I just can't remember for sure. But so he tells the story of how he would sit on his Mothers lap at the age of 5, and read to her a book, or I guess it was... Have her read the book, then he'd go 7 sit on her lap, & say "Now, MOM! I know you didn't understand that - so let me just explain it to you. . ." Then I remember when I was taking (& flunking) gross anatomy in grad school. Anyway, was it here, or was it there in the documentary? It was in one place or the other & now the more than I think of it, I'm certain it was from the Harvard program. So one of them was saying to their instructors, you know what/.? It was the fella taht i was talking about thefre: the mechanis or whatever he was (prior to). And so anyway he marches right on into his anatamoy lab & says to the professor, "I'm going to learn everything there is to know about anatomy, every last thing!" And the professor goes, "No Body Knows Every Last Thing, ...(Unless yo8u'ree an Anatomist; or what-ever they're called?)." And so that shook him - or, woke him up at least, to soem of the realities with which he was facing in his relatively newfound passion in studying medicine. You may not be able to master every last detail, every single step of the way, the first go around. And then I'm reminded of anotehr thing somebody told me from high school, who was like #2 in the class above me. She had said, after having been out of O. T. school for a little while (few years maybe), that once you get into working on patients & things, it then becomes so much easier to remember these anatomical structures, because you have a place of application for them to be remebered by. (Or words to that effect). I also know that, sometijmes, as it was explained to me by a classmate in pharm school, it can feel a bit likegetting blasted w/a fire hose in the face, during your early years there. But then, what happens is that, eventually when those subjects come around againn, or they need to be apllied in order to learn higher leverl class/es or courses, or whatever~ / that-that is where it then begins to resonate and sink in. Like, you may not master it just yet, but the second go around, even if it is just a quick "refresher," will be much easier for having slogged through it & doing all of that hard lifting or labor the first, or initial go-around, or time. In short: do the best you can, and then let the cards fall where they may. Another thing I'd heard said once, was that once you get out into the world of medicine & are working where ever it is that you are working; nobody (patient) is going to come running up to you and say, "Please tell me what your grades were in anatomy in school!" (I'm just dying to know...)
-if you pass your boards, and know what you are doing, I'm sure will do a good job & be competent at your work. It is a lot to take in at once, and what made our class in particular so challenging for me, anyway, as it should have been more a piece of cake, given how much memorization was involved, - but I guess there were other forces at play as well - but so anyway what was so hard was that you'd go & learn say 500 structures. Close your eyes. And picture it & its location in your mind. Only then, can you move on and know that you've "gotten-it." (realize that's a bit of an absurd standard but depends on your level of perfectionism, I guess, or more importantly how your mind works & learns. . .) but then you'd go into the lab next day for the exam. And there'd be like 15 things! 15? That's it... Not. for, me~* D: opps!
However, next week on Wednesday I have the exam upcoming and its right, even if I fail, I can re-try in 2 weeks, i wanna pass it all at once next week to be able to take some time off afterwards rather than be forced to study again and retake the exam. I feel so burnt out and anatomy was probably the hardest subject I have done in my whole life.
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i'm sorry that things are so bad right now. are you working and can you that may help. making a difference in other peoples lives can help you feel better about yourself. you can volunteer someplace or do kind things individually like giving a homeless person a sandwhich or blanket. you can stick around here and make friends and support people that need it. i hope you can find something that can help you
mike....
i'm sorry that things are so bad right now. are you working and can you that may help. making a difference in other peoples lives can help you feel better about yourself. you can volunteer someplace or do kind things individually like giving a homeless person a sandwhich or blanket. you can stick around here and make friends and support people that need it. i hope you can find something that can help you
mike....
Oh, my goodness? ;/ . . . that would drive me up the wall, as in wild or insane? I don't know how they can do that (well, I suppose I do!) but, really that seems a difficult task for those who have a difficult, or harder time learning in that manner - as they may have little experience with it, or just that's how their brain "works." So, you're right (here).
Yes, this is the way I've been told it's been described to me as it's been happening for them - by those who have gone through it too (that they have experienced a similar phenomenon). 'Memorize & regurgitate,' is how I have heard it described by others as well, in this regard. So I think & feel, that you are correct in your assessments--& I don't know if you ever have, or get the chance to do this: but you could always pull some upper classman aside, and just ask them to share their thoughts, if they wouldn't mind on the subject, or this topic & what/or how their experiences may be helpful for you, or inspire you by giving you hope. So long as they are one of the ones who can relate, to what it is that you are going through.
If you get incredibly unlucky, you may just happen to pick one of those rare few, who doesn't find it particularly challenging, or difficult at all. These people are either not telling the truth, as in being sincere, or they are just as I'd said, exceedingly rare. Most people will share a similar sentiment to what it is you are facing & experiencing, it may be different subjects for different people. And there is also a tendency to look around the room, and just assume that everyone is doing awesome, when in reality, they are having so many of the very same fears & anxieties, as you, yourself are.
What I would do if I were you, and I know that this is easier said than done, but just worry about what is within your control, and right in front of you. In other words, the now - or, the present. In other words, try not to think that many steps ahead, and worry about what might happen if it doesn't go your way on the exam? If that comes to pass, you can most certainly deal with it then. But it does no good, or serves no (productive) purpose, beyond mere heightening of your anxiety, and all of its uncomfortable symptoms, to stress over that which has yet to come to pass.
What's meant to be, in the end, will . . . I lost the thought or the ending?
(turn out as they're supposed to, I guess? Or I think! I don't know I'm hopefully at the tail end of a really long respiratory thing, so hopefully, I can eventually see brighter days ahead! hahaha... or otherwise, the darkness is becoming all the more normal--by the minute/or the moment, if you'd prefer?--& I shall be forced to adapt; & adjust. Just like much of, or in life. It's like Bruce Lee once said, "Be like water, my friend." In other words, be flexible enough and have the ability to change with the/or your, given environment. Like, or as water would do, when being poured into a glass, for example. Maybe I've just described that in as lame a way as imaginable, or (is) possible? But you should know (that-that) is what you get with me, by now! ;^) Ha.
I think before I'd started grad school, because I had talked to so many who were already well established in their practices & whatnot, some of them older, others younger. But I had a whole plethora of "things," to worry and freak out over, or about. One such example, 'Make sure you set aside enough each term, for collateral, to use as means for investing afterwards or for the bank, when you waltz on in there after graduation, for a loan." And, etc. Things with which I had no business at all spending my time on - given that - they only gave/or leant you so much money each term to spend on the cost(s) of going to the darn freaking school, in the first place. Many people didn't even by all of the books, they found other ways - alternatives - in order to save money. Obviously, the Netter Atlas (for anatomy) was not one of them - that they'd neglected~!*
So maybe just try to take some mini breaks in between now & then (Your exam) just so as to rest & reset (albeit however briefly). That might be a wise strategy to help avoid this burnout you describe as potentially beginning to be suffering from. But you know yourself best, and what is necessary for you to be prepared (well) and get yourself into the best fitness in order to pass this thing. Good luck, and you can do it! :^)
Yes, anatomy seems to be one of the more common subjects you hear students complain about. Not everybody, it depends on your individual given brain. But there are a lot of really good reasons, in my opinion, for this to be this way. And some of them came from different backgrounds, or have pre-studied, or whatever (the case may be). . . & so, are thus: better prepared, out of the gate, to try & tackle this thing! So, don't feel too badly, or pay a whole ton of attention to how every body is doing. When you are on your rounds & your rotations, and etc. / etc. This (your marks in anatomy in relation to everyone else) will be the furthest thing from your mind. Probably then, it will be, how do (or can) 'I,' function on a mere zero hrs. sleep (or thereabouts) on a 24 hr. shift? Sounds like; "good times," & why it's not for every-body.
In other words, very few there are - who can make it through this grueling & rigorous & highly contested training. So just focus on you, then, and try to stop thinking about everybody else. They could all pass, ace it, or fail. And it shouldn't make one iota of difference in how (well) you do! See my point? It's okay if you don't... Or? Sometimes, you can "think" it - but not (or fail to) grasp, or 'feel,' it. So I know, and I do understand. And so, @PrincessPure ~just do the very best that you can, and then, let the cards fall where they may. You can (only) control what (as in how much) effort you put into the exam (as in studying). And this includes breaks & rest. So plan, and pace, wisely! But if you do get overwhelmed, and stressed... then / than 'Guess what?' That's o. k., too~ (so don't sweat it, no matter what, is the point here, my dear!). : )
ok, I better go now, or I'll be here for hours, talking to a wall. . j/k (not a commentary on you, but me, just so we're clear, princess pure!). (^:
-mrb.
Yes, this is the way I've been told it's been described to me as it's been happening for them - by those who have gone through it too (that they have experienced a similar phenomenon). 'Memorize & regurgitate,' is how I have heard it described by others as well, in this regard. So I think & feel, that you are correct in your assessments--& I don't know if you ever have, or get the chance to do this: but you could always pull some upper classman aside, and just ask them to share their thoughts, if they wouldn't mind on the subject, or this topic & what/or how their experiences may be helpful for you, or inspire you by giving you hope. So long as they are one of the ones who can relate, to what it is that you are going through.
If you get incredibly unlucky, you may just happen to pick one of those rare few, who doesn't find it particularly challenging, or difficult at all. These people are either not telling the truth, as in being sincere, or they are just as I'd said, exceedingly rare. Most people will share a similar sentiment to what it is you are facing & experiencing, it may be different subjects for different people. And there is also a tendency to look around the room, and just assume that everyone is doing awesome, when in reality, they are having so many of the very same fears & anxieties, as you, yourself are.
What I would do if I were you, and I know that this is easier said than done, but just worry about what is within your control, and right in front of you. In other words, the now - or, the present. In other words, try not to think that many steps ahead, and worry about what might happen if it doesn't go your way on the exam? If that comes to pass, you can most certainly deal with it then. But it does no good, or serves no (productive) purpose, beyond mere heightening of your anxiety, and all of its uncomfortable symptoms, to stress over that which has yet to come to pass.
What's meant to be, in the end, will . . . I lost the thought or the ending?
(turn out as they're supposed to, I guess? Or I think! I don't know I'm hopefully at the tail end of a really long respiratory thing, so hopefully, I can eventually see brighter days ahead! hahaha... or otherwise, the darkness is becoming all the more normal--by the minute/or the moment, if you'd prefer?--& I shall be forced to adapt; & adjust. Just like much of, or in life. It's like Bruce Lee once said, "Be like water, my friend." In other words, be flexible enough and have the ability to change with the/or your, given environment. Like, or as water would do, when being poured into a glass, for example. Maybe I've just described that in as lame a way as imaginable, or (is) possible? But you should know (that-that) is what you get with me, by now! ;^) Ha. I think before I'd started grad school, because I had talked to so many who were already well established in their practices & whatnot, some of them older, others younger. But I had a whole plethora of "things," to worry and freak out over, or about. One such example, 'Make sure you set aside enough each term, for collateral, to use as means for investing afterwards or for the bank, when you waltz on in there after graduation, for a loan." And, etc. Things with which I had no business at all spending my time on - given that - they only gave/or leant you so much money each term to spend on the cost(s) of going to the darn freaking school, in the first place. Many people didn't even by all of the books, they found other ways - alternatives - in order to save money. Obviously, the Netter Atlas (for anatomy) was not one of them - that they'd neglected~!*
So maybe just try to take some mini breaks in between now & then (Your exam) just so as to rest & reset (albeit however briefly). That might be a wise strategy to help avoid this burnout you describe as potentially beginning to be suffering from. But you know yourself best, and what is necessary for you to be prepared (well) and get yourself into the best fitness in order to pass this thing. Good luck, and you can do it! :^)
Yes, anatomy seems to be one of the more common subjects you hear students complain about. Not everybody, it depends on your individual given brain. But there are a lot of really good reasons, in my opinion, for this to be this way. And some of them came from different backgrounds, or have pre-studied, or whatever (the case may be). . . & so, are thus: better prepared, out of the gate, to try & tackle this thing! So, don't feel too badly, or pay a whole ton of attention to how every body is doing. When you are on your rounds & your rotations, and etc. / etc. This (your marks in anatomy in relation to everyone else) will be the furthest thing from your mind. Probably then, it will be, how do (or can) 'I,' function on a mere zero hrs. sleep (or thereabouts) on a 24 hr. shift?
Sounds like; "good times," & why it's not for every-body. In other words, very few there are - who can make it through this grueling & rigorous & highly contested training. So just focus on you, then, and try to stop thinking about everybody else. They could all pass, ace it, or fail. And it shouldn't make one iota of difference in how (well) you do! See my point? It's okay if you don't...
Or? Sometimes, you can "think" it - but not (or fail to) grasp, or 'feel,' it. So I know, and I do understand. And so, @PrincessPure ~just do the very best that you can, and then, let the cards fall where they may. You can (only) control what (as in how much) effort you put into the exam (as in studying). And this includes breaks & rest. So plan, and pace, wisely! But if you do get overwhelmed, and stressed... then / than 'Guess what?' That's o. k., too~ (so don't sweat it, no matter what, is the point here, my dear!). : ) ok, I better go now, or I'll be here for hours, talking to a wall. .
j/k (not a commentary on you, but me, just so we're clear, princess pure!). (^:-mrb.
And my dentist once told me, @PrincessPure - that she could hardly even remember, "What biochemistry was?" -so fear not! there is hope that still remains.. She has been practicing about ten years at this point, and was one of the top students in her class, having wanted to be one since her Grand Dad was, or had been one ~so ever since around the 4th grade, which was about 10 yrs. of age here, maybe? I can't even remember! But no, she's awesome & wonderful and always mocks me mercifully in front of the hygienist, when she walks into the room, saying or asking questions such as... "So, has he confessed his sins to you yet? He likes to bathe his mouth--or was it teeth--in sugar at night while he sleeps, due to all of his Vitamin C drop(s) consumption." Guilty, as charged, Madam. : )
-so fear not! there is hope that still remains.. She has been practicing about ten years at this point, and was one of the top students in her class, having wanted to be one since her Grand Dad was, or had been one ~so ever since around the 4th grade, which was about 10 yrs. of age here, maybe? I can't even remember! But no, she's awesome & wonderful and always mocks me mercifully in front of the hygienist, when she walks into the room, saying or asking questions such as... "So, has he confessed his sins to you yet? He likes to bathe his mouth--or was it teeth--in sugar at night while he sleeps, due to all of his Vitamin C drop(s) consumption." Guilty, as charged, Madam. : )
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Welcome to SF @BurnToast. I'm sorry to hear about all of the negative emotions you're having. I believe that you will find that you can freely express yourself here with no judgement. I hope in time there will be solutions to your situation. Feeling stuck is grueling and I'm rooting for you. 