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Empathy Only Jim's café 08/12/2020: The wit of the frumentarii edition

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Dante

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A riddle shouldn't have to rely on esoteric knowledge from multiple varied fields, its a mind game, about lateral thinking, not exhaustive knowledge of random things.
 

Legate Lanius

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A riddle shouldn't have to rely on esoteric knowledge from multiple varied fields, its a mind game, about lateral thinking, not exhaustive knowledge of random things.
Come on, there was one piece of knowledge that might've been a bit out there in one of the riddles. Everything else was common knowledge that everyone knows. But I see your point, next time around I'll try to keep that in mind.
 
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Dante

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Come on, there was one piece of knowledge that might've been a bit out there in one of the riddles. Everything else was common knowledge that everyone knows. But I see your point, next time around I'll try to keep that in mind.
I have no problem with your first riddle, and my problem with your 2nd riddle is a different story, but your 3rd riddle references obscure american names and quantum theory that contradicts the base idea of quantum mechanics, that (at least on a small scale) there is no such thing as a set reality, that all things are just probabilities, which is why an electron (a particle) acts as a wave in the famous double spit experiment, (This isnt a criticism of the theory, quantum mechanics seems to contradict itself all the time) and the 4th riddle references your own personal feelings on laundry.

Although I have to thank you, trying to look up the theory you mentioned lead me to a SERIOUSLY interesting article on the the lack of the a single measurable objective reality. (bookmarked for later)


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OH BLOODY HELL!! I just read the start of that article i found! objective reality apparently doesn't exist at all even on large scale! its ALL probability ^^ and its been experimentally shown ^^ WE DONT EXIST ^^
 

Legate Lanius

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I have no problem with your first riddle, and my problem with your 2nd riddle is a different story, but your 3rd riddle references obscure american names and quantum theory that contradicts the base idea of quantum mechanics, that (at least on a small scale) there is no such thing as a set reality, that all things are just probabilities, which is why an electron (a particle) acts as a wave in the famous double spit experiment, (This isnt a criticism of the theory, quantum mechanics seems to contradict itself all the time) and the 4th riddle references your own personal feelings on laundry.

Although I have to thank you, trying to look up the theory you mentioned lead me to a SERIOUSLY interesting article on the the lack of the a single measurable objective reality. (bookmarked for later)


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OH BLOODY HELL!! I just read the start of that article i found! objective reality apparently doesn't exist at all even on large scale! its ALL probability ^^ and its been experimentally shown ^^ WE DONT EXIST ^^
Nice that you found something interesting to read. Well, the name aside, it's easier to solve that riddle if you never heard about quantum mechanics and were working from a newtonian model or something.
 

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#46
@Legate Lanius thanks for opening the café
My brain just can't do questions right now. Though I would say you could be a gamer if you play mobile games. I play games, but I would not call myself a gamer. My games are um ... old or weird HA. On that note, back to my game the minions are calling.
 

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Hope you're having a Tuesday without suicidal thoughts and free from self-destructive behaviors such as: binge-drinking, cutting, needle-scavenging and partaking in unprotected sexual encounters.

Today I've prepared: riddles. *woohoo


Riddle one: I pierce, yet show. I detect and burn. I grant vision and entertain. What am I?

Riddle two: I am inside of you, yet you can spend time in me. I can be used to track data and when I wake up I'm dangerous. What am I?

Riddle three: I'm a figment of imagination, created by ignorance. I'm a friend of the house and many men call themselves by my name. What am I?

Riddle four: I'm worthless, I'm annoying, no one likes detecting my presence. When I get washed I disappear. I'm about to get set alight and thrown out of the window. What am I?

To Americans, and the like, this thread will be prematurely posted. But it ain't called UTC for nothing, fellas.

I'll include some questions for those that don't like riddles (95% of the forum, apparently :mad:).

Q1: If you could change the year you were born, when would you choose to be born?
Q2: If you could choose to never have been born at all, would you?
Q3: Do you eat many small meals or few large meals (you're free to make a joke about how you eat many large meals).
Q4: If you were unable to anticipate unwanted events at all, would your life get worse or better? How?
Q5: Does playing mobile games make you a gamer?
Q6: How far would you go to get recognized officially as the gamer that you are?

Thread song for relaxing and solving the riddles:
Thread song for pondering the questions:
only just now seeing this thread. i ended up getting coffee from my own coffee maker but now that i’m here i’ll take a stab at riddles 1 & 2 even though i suspect that just by answering i’ll get it wrong but i’ll say 1)MALWARE AND 2)BRAIN.

as for the Qs, lets see if i can...

Q1: If you could change the year you were born, when would you choose to be born? at a much earlier time when it would be ok to be naked and with few people around who might be likely to hunt me down and have a mate to live with finding our own food and living as long as we could. not really sure what year that would be though.
Q2: If you could choose to never have been born at all, would you? i believe i already had that choice and did not choose it.
Q3: Do you eat many small meals or few large meals (you're free to make a joke about how you eat many large meals). my breakfast is not large in most cases. my lunch is not so large either and my dinner is what i consider dinner size which is larger than most either breakfast or lunch but not necessarily large as in what i think is the implied very large i’m perceiving in the question. anyway i do feel i often over eat and am both happified by it and uncomfortable by it too. then there are the snacks. are snacks considered meals?
Q4: If you were unable to anticipate unwanted events at all, would your life get worse or better? How? i’m thinking that unanticipated events are coming at me constantly. i think the few that i may be able to anticipate are somehow in accord with me getting both worse and better. but to explain this - it would take many many pages.
Q5: Does playing mobile games make you a gamer? probably. but if not, what else might you be?
Q6: How far would you go to get recognized officially as the gamer that you are? this makes me think i don’t actually know what being a gamer really is. maybe that indicates that i have not gone very far at all in getting recognized as such.

day late or on time or whenever, may 🌞🌞🌞 shine in all the right places for all in need and for all seeking it...😊
 

Dante

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"reservations", you guys are just mad that you couldn't solve it *rofl. jk, I get the points tho, next time I'll try to make them easier.
Its not about ease, a good riddle should leave you pulling your hair out not being able to think of ANY answer that fits, and then when you hear the answer you should groan at how bloody obvious it was and wonder why you couldnt see it, or in those blessed moments of figuring it out it should all click into place as the answer fits like a key and leaves no doubt in your mind: I am right.

A good riddle doesnt use word play or rely on obscure knowledge, but takes advantage of the way a person thinks and exploit blind spots on common thinking.

Riddle me this (this isnt my riddle, but a favourite from my childhood):
There are 3 figures climbing up a hill, the 2nd figure is the son of the 1st, the 3rd is the brother of the 2nd, but the 1st ISNT the father of the 3rd, how is this possible?
 

Legate Lanius

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#51
Its not about ease, a good riddle should leave you pulling your hair out not being able to think of ANY answer that fits, and then when you hear the answer you should groan at how bloody obvious it was and wonder why you couldnt see it, or in those blessed moments of figuring it out it should all click into place as he answer fits like a key and leaves no doubt in your mind: I am right.

Riddle me this:
There are 3 figures climbing up a hill, the 2nd figure is the son of the 1st, the 3rd is the brother of the 2nd, but the 1st ISNT the father of the 3rd, how is this possible?
Their mother
 

Legate Lanius

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#53
Its not about ease, a good riddle should leave you pulling your hair out not being able to think of ANY answer that fits, and then when you hear the answer you should groan at how bloody obvious it was and wonder why you couldnt see it, or in those blessed moments of figuring it out it should all click into place as the answer fits like a key and leaves no doubt in your mind: I am right.

A good riddle doesnt use word play or rely on obscure knowledge, but takes advantage of the way a person thinks and exploit blind spots on common thinking.

Riddle me this (this isnt my riddle, but a favourite from my childhood):
There are 3 figures climbing up a hill, the 2nd figure is the son of the 1st, the 3rd is the brother of the 2nd, but the 1st ISNT the father of the 3rd, how is this possible?
Btw, I think my riddles were good this time around and I put a good amount of effort into them. Others also liked the riddles. If I were to post riddles such as your alcohol or mother riddle that get solved in a matter of minutes at most the first poster would get all of them right and the thread is over.
 

Dante

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#54
Another favourite from my childhood:

2 fathers and 2 sons go hunting, they each catch and kill 1 rabbit and bring them home for dinner, when they get home they each put their rabbit on the counter, but there are only 3 rabbits. Explain.
 

Legate Lanius

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#55
Another favourite from my childhood:

2 fathers and 2 sons go hunting, they each catch and kill 1 rabbit and bring them home for dinner, when they get home they each put their rabbit on the counter, but there are only 3 rabbits. Explain.
Grandfather, father, son
 

Dante

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#56
Grandfather, father, son
Yea, I know they are easy, but they are from my childhood, so they are going to be easy, I just think they are really good riddles, they each have 1 perfect answer and no other possible answers, and rely on no obscure knowledge or research.
I understand the impulse to make harder riddles, I mean thats the point, but riddle number 3 and 4 were impossible for me, I didnt have the requisite knowledge, I could be a world renowned genius and have 10,000 years and wouldn't have got it without more background research I didnt even know I needed.
 

Dante

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#57
If you make a riddle about a solider in some war managing to shoot an enemy soldier on the other side of a wall and the riddle asking how, the answer shouldnt be "historically in the war mentioned in this riddle soldiers on this side were issued XXX ammunition which has been rated for shooting through XXX thickness of sheet metal", the answer should be "he shot through a window".
 

Legate Lanius

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#58
Yea, I know they are easy, but they are from my childhood, so they are going to be easy, I just think they are really good riddles, they each have 1 perfect answer and no other possible answers, and rely on no obscure knowledge or research.
I understand the impulse to make harder riddles, I mean thats the point, but riddle number 3 and 4 were impossible for me, I didnt have the requisite knowledge, I could be a world renowned genius and have 10,000 years and wouldn't have got it without more background research I didnt even know I needed.
4 was literally a joke, not a riddle. For 3 you needed to know that Chance was a name and rudimentary logic applied to probability theory. Ok, it was very hard.
 

Legate Lanius

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#59
If you make a riddle about a solider in some war managing to shoot an enemy soldier on the other side of a wall and the riddle asking how, the answer shouldnt be "historically in the war mentioned in this riddle soldiers on this side were issued XXX ammunition which has been rated for shooting through XXX thickness of sheet metal", the answer should be "he shot through a window".
Are you done whining yet?
 
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