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Jim's Cafe - Sun.Apr.14, 2024

dandelions

me
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#41
I have a question for the cafe: Does anyone else talk too much &/or tend to over-explain?
moi of course seabird. this is my specialty. just look at some of my posts - particularly earlier than a year ago when i finally began getting self conscious. but even though i started cutting down i've sent some awfully long emails and i've been told that my responses in support groups provide a touch TMI. its just my natural ebullience i guess! or better still my IDK. wish i could tone down.... 👽😢
 
#42
Favorite pic is the valley in the morning with dew all around. Fresh, clean n crisp. A beautiful start to a day.
Questions:
1. Do you get colds often (like more than once per month, usually)?

as a child and young adult, yes. Started taking precautions long before COVID, then learned i don't have much of an immune system.
2. Would you rather be a moon or a star?
Moon, i can fade in n out, always changing appearances, and we all have our dark sides,
3. Do you enjoy reading?
yes, difficult to find the uninterrupted time.
4. If you could be any animal, which one would you want to be?
Bald Eagle or Sea Eagle.
 

seabird

meandering home
SF Supporter
#44
moi of course seabird. this is my specialty. just look at some of my posts - particularly earlier than a year ago when i finally began getting self conscious. but even though i started cutting down i've sent some awfully long emails and i've been told that my responses in support groups provide a touch TMI. its just my natural ebullience i guess! or better still my IDK. wish i could tone down.... 👽😢
🧐 Sorry if it makes you sad, that is something I very much understand. I hope you keep being you, and yet, if you want to tone down, then it's perhaps part of life to compartmentalize certain bits of ourselves. Not sure how relaistic for me, I don't seem to be able to keep it under wraps for long. @dandelion s thank you, I'm glad to feel less alone.
🤗
 

Lisa the Goatgirl

I'm all things, and so are you
Staff Alumni
SF Supporter
#45
I have a question for the cafe: Does anyone else talk too much &/or tend to over-explain?
I know it took me a while to respond to this question myself, ironically because of this issue and my resultant avoidant behaviours, but it's a feeling i strongly relate to. It's a natural trait of a lot of autistic people like myself that we become fixated on certain topics, and if you let us, we can ramble on about it for hours. We also tend to want to explain every thought in extreme detail, because that's how our minds analyse things. I'd like to think that i'm not too bad these days, but that's a product of me being perpetually extremely self-conscious, and very actively limiting how much i allow myself to say or express, for fear of talking too much. So i may not talk too much normally (i hope), but i'm always anxious about it, and if i ever let myself just be, i probably would talk everybody's ears off until they were completely sick of me. :D
 

MisterBGone

~\_✅`,')
SF Supporter
#47
I know it took me a while to respond to this question myself, ironically because of this issue and my resultant avoidant behaviours, but it's a feeling i strongly relate to. It's a natural trait of a lot of autistic people like myself that we become fixated on certain topics, and if you let us, we can ramble on about it for hours. We also tend to want to explain every thought in extreme detail, because that's how our minds analyse things. I'd like to think that i'm not too bad these days, but that's a product of me being perpetually extremely self-conscious, and very actively limiting how much i allow myself to say or express, for fear of talking too much. So i may not talk too much normally (i hope), but i'm always anxious about it, and if i ever let myself just be, i probably would talk everybody's ears off until they were completely sick of me. :D
Well, the good news here is. . . You don't have to worry so much, as you've really got no one to impress! ;) It's just Wee Little Ol`d US~* :D
 

seabird

meandering home
SF Supporter
#48
i know i probably do overshare a lot and or over-explain, but i think i tend to do that because growing up i was often interrupted or shut down quickly and told to shut up a lot.
I cannot explain how deeply angry I feel when seeing that sort of behaviour directed at a child or teenager. It is a particularly insidious kind of abuse.

Wherever I live, and whoever I am with, I have an iron-clad rule of people and pets being heard, and listened to. And, of not ever using the phrase shut-up. When my husband told me he didn't want me to talk anymore it broke my heart.

Sorry for getting all serious in the cafe.
 

Lisa the Goatgirl

I'm all things, and so are you
Staff Alumni
SF Supporter
#49
Sorry for getting all serious in the cafe.
Nothing you need to apologise for. We'd gotten onto a serious topic, and you're just engaging in the conversation. *hug10
And i'm glad you contributed that, cos someone definitely needed to say that, you're right.
@Dead~boy, it's awful you were told that so much growing up. You should have been encouraged to speak your mind, because the things you have to say are wonderful, and so often come from a place of love and understanding. *hug
 

seabird

meandering home
SF Supporter
#50
I know it took me a while to respond to this question myself, ironically because of this issue and my resultant avoidant behaviours, but it's a feeling i strongly relate to. It's a natural trait of a lot of autistic people like myself that we become fixated on certain topics, and if you let us, we can ramble on about it for hours. We also tend to want to explain every thought in extreme detail, because that's how our minds analyse things. I'd like to think that i'm not too bad these days, but that's a product of me being perpetually extremely self-conscious, and very actively limiting how much i allow myself to say or express, for fear of talking too much. So i may not talk too much normally (i hope), but i'm always anxious about it, and if i ever let myself just be, i probably would talk everybody's ears off until they were completely sick of me. :D
It's soothing to me to know I'm clearly not the only one who does this. I am not going to be able to know for sure if I am someone on the autistic spectrum but it is seeming increasingly as though I fit there.
Thank you @Lisa the Goatgirl. I'd love to explain my thoughts more deeply here, but as you described I am conscious of often over doing it.
 

Lisa the Goatgirl

I'm all things, and so are you
Staff Alumni
SF Supporter
#51
It's soothing to me to know I'm clearly not the only one who does this. I am not going to be able to know for sure if I am someone on the autistic spectrum but it is seeming increasingly as though I fit there.
Thank you @Lisa the Goatgirl. I'd love to explain my thoughts more deeply here, but as you described I am conscious of often over doing it.
For what it's worth, even though i know it can be really hard to overcome that instinctive anxiety, i'm sure that if you wanted to expand on this, you'd be more than welcome to by everyone here. Or if it would feel less hard, please do feel free to message me about it, i always find discussions of people exploring their potential ASD fascinating. For unrelated personal reasons, i'm a bit of a sobbing mess at this moment, but i'd definitely enjoy listening to your thoughts, and responding once i pull myself together. :D
 

Neko~boy

Well-Known Member
#52
I cannot explain how deeply angry I feel when seeing that sort of behaviour directed at a child or teenager. It is a particularly insidious kind of abuse.

Wherever I live, and whoever I am with, I have an iron-clad rule of people and pets being heard, and listened to. And, of not ever using the phrase shut-up. When my husband told me he didn't want me to talk anymore it broke my heart.

Sorry for getting all serious in the cafe.

I agree. It was hard being treated that way growing up and sadly I still do at work or I always get interrupted by everyone. Because of it I struggle speaking verbally a lot to others and often keep to myself. I tend to write things down to speak a lot. If I am around the same people for a long time, I eventually open up to talk to them.

I try to always listen the best I can. I know I may fall short at times, but I am working on being the best listener I can be.

No need to worry about getting serious in the cafe. I truly appreciate reading your response. It is nice to see how caring you are of others being heard, especially animals.

I am so sorry your husband said that to you. That's an awful thing to say *sadhug
 

Neko~boy

Well-Known Member
#54
Nothing you need to apologise for. We'd gotten onto a serious topic, and you're just engaging in the conversation. *hug10
And i'm glad you contributed that, cos someone definitely needed to say that, you're right.
@Dead~boy, it's awful you were told that so much growing up. You should have been encouraged to speak your mind, because the things you have to say are wonderful, and so often come from a place of love and understanding. *hug

Thank you Lisa. That really means a lot to hear that. You've helped me find my voice and I have been feeling more comfortable with being more open and vocal as best I can. *hug
 

dandelions

me
SF Supporter
#55
🧐 Sorry if it makes you sad, that is something I very much understand. I hope you keep being you, and yet, if you want to tone down, then it's perhaps part of life to compartmentalize certain bits of ourselves. Not sure how relaistic for me, I don't seem to be able to keep it under wraps for long. @dandelion s thank you, I'm glad to feel less alone.
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hey seabird, thanks. this makes me think more and I want to add and mention that the "sad" i have will always be a part of my life for reasons very other than what we are talking about in this thread. just want to make it clear that it is not a problem with the conversation itself.

MY NOTE HERE AFTER WRITING THE WHOLE REPLY IS THAT WHAT FOLLOWS MAY BE SEEN AS A BIT OVER THE TOP FOR CAFE TALK SO PLEASE SKIP OVER WHAT I'VE WRITTEN THAT FOLLOWS IN THIS POST IF YOU THINK READING THINGS WITH A WARNING AHEAD OF IT WOULD BE TOO MUCH TO READ. BUT IT IS APPROPRIATE CONTENT FOR WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO PUT IT AND IT BE LINKED TOO IN A TIMELY WAY.

but most definitely these days sadness exists in me with a lot of perspective that i didn't have when i first arrived here on SF years ago. it took a lot of work to arrive where i am now too (and i by no means am implying that things are all peachy now either) but certain things i think for myself and likely anyone, remain a part of life and life expeerience and they don't go away - yet it is possible - i believe to... - yes! - to be viewed and expereinced from a different, safer, better perspective.

one of the most important examples of this is - and i hope i'm not saying anything troubling to other people - can be found and is epitomized in the experience of another person's "passing" and the mourning of that death.

i even think the term "passing" is not suitable. because i think it is much better to celebrate the life from the the sad moment and to fully acknowledge what has happened. maybe here is the only place where i believe in "radical acceptance".

non acknowledgement (and i base this purely on my own life experience and my own reacations during much of the time as simply being unable to understand and deal with my own life experience).

ok, this is probably moving into heaviness - too much for a sunny window seat in the Café. i'm starting to run away with myself - sorry! but let me just finish up - that i find it much better to celebrate someone's life than to suffer their death.

i try to do that because for myself, that way i can ask the question "where can i go from here?" because i need to and because "someone else" will always only be "someone else" and not the self.

i will always be the "self" and for me, it took me 62 years and a lot of the stuff that brought me here in the first place before i was even able to start touching my matters in a safer and positive way.

i figured out early that the dandelion represents the element i need. ITS PERSEVERANCE!!! and if there is anything i can share and hope rubs of for everyone is perseverence. there's a lot of **** out there. a baby and child is not immediately ready to process all that stuff, but it always can be processed in growing, learning evolving ways.

and if like me, it takes you to placese such as gender transitioning as it is happening with me, it is for anyone else to process if they are having trouble understanding this. for me it is simply and undenyingly a life saving thing. that is what i learned while here on SF.

that my sadness is a part of my life and always will be but i gotta keep going and learning and addressing that sadness in the most appropriate ways. denying and rejecting and hating other situations and other people is not going to fix any problems for me or for anyone else. omg. i'm so sorry for this unCafély response.

let me grab a coffee and morning nibbling treat and soak in the rays at my fav window some more. and hope that everyone is celebrating Sunday, Yesterday and now today too. Persevere y'all. 👽
 

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