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Loneliness is literally killing me...

painfully

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#1
To make it short, Im a 35 yo guy from Spain. I have been all my life alone, and I tried a lot talking to girls in the internet. Why internet? Cause I dont see the point irl or wouldnt even know where to go, due to how I am. I have asperger, depression, social anxiety, BPD and Im very introverted. I dont like to go outside, I cant really have hobbies cause I barely have strength to live, and everything is mentally taxing, so nothing interests me much

and I do not feel the need for friends or family, which makes me not liking socializing and not getting anything out of it, nothing but tiredness. But I have this massive emptiness of needing a girl to both love and be loved, to give and receive tons of affection, to share my monotone every day. To support each other... And not having this is really killing me. It causes a ton of suffering, enough for me to wanting to die... I have been so many years alone and suffered so much because of it that Im also full of traumas and mental scars due to it... I cant keep going much more, Im too old for this...

I messaged so many girls that I dont want to say the number cause Im ashamed of it, but all I did was try to find somebody... Most dont reply, and the few who reply is to tell me a hard no, or to be friends, which is the equivalent of being rejected. Im not stupid and I ofc dont expect a relationship right away, I understand it takes time, but the problem is that no one leaves the oportunity open for me, they put a hard cap on it "friendship and nothing else ever", and its just straight up rejection...

I want to describe the 2 girls I interacted in the last few hours...

Messaged one from r/mentalhealth that was suffering... We talked for 3 hours. She told me a lot of herself and she actually put effort in talking, which was nice, cause Im so tired of pulling the conversations. She tells me what causes her suffering and I tell what causes mine, and tell her that no woman wants me cause Im weak, needy, I dont like to socialize and stuff, and women dont want that... She starts telling me that not all women are the same, that some like that... I tell her that even if some like some trait, I have too many bad things... She tells me that Im nice and sensitive and idk, other things that are supposedly good... I insist that despite that, the result is the same, and its not by chance or lack of trying... She also says that she does not want a relationship. Sorry, but I dont buy this. Im always told the same and Im not stupid. Its statistically impossible that every single women I talk to doesnt want a relationship. Its just an excuse to reject me. Maybe she actually thinks that, but if someone she considered super atractive inside and outside asked her out, she wouldnt tell him "Im not looking for a relationship".
Anyway, I have to go to sleep, I tell her so and say goodbye... And I wake up and see that she has blocked me... So fuck it. All that "great and nice" and fucking shit was for nothing.

I wake up and receive an unexpected message from some random girl... She doesnt even want to talk or anything, she saw my post and said that it touched her soul and wanted to message me... She told me that Im great and Im enough and loved and there is somebody for me and idk how much else bullshit. I say bullshit, yes, because this feels like an insult. In fact, the message was so positive and said so many things that it felt much more insulting. The structure was the same as the last girl, and as it always is, of course. The structure is "you are great and nice but I dont want you" in fucking essence. She even threw the "I hope I can find somebody like you"... Fucking seriously? Why not me? Ofc I know the answer. She doesnt want somebody like me, she wants somebody that she sees as attractive and strong, and then have some of my traits. This message was me being rejected without even asking or messaging her...

This is how it always go. Im so "great" and so much bullshit but Im always rejected and alone. In fact, if I go by how Im treated and how alone I am, I would say that what I am is disgusting. Because nobody wants me or even gives me a chance. And when they say they want to be friends its cause they want me to entertain them, cause when Im in good mood I can be somewhat entertaining and nice... So they want that, my energy, my pain and suffering just for their entertainment. They dont want ME.
like I said in the other post, Im very affectionate when I THINK IM receiving affectionate and Im being accepted... Which happened with some other girl, that she seemed to correspond me, but after a week of talking she told me she didnt say anything cause she didnt want me to stop being nice... What a way to use me like a fucking shit...

I need someone to accept me, to want me, with all my flaws. I cannot lie and I cannot play "the game" (of bullshit dating and pretending), and even if I could, it would be useless cause I need to feel accepted for what I am, not for what I can bullshit...

I try to repost in reddit an intro in the appropriate reddit for this, which is the following...
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Anyway, Im too old for this, for distractions or whatever... I dont even know why I have set my date so far out in the next months, probably early 2027. There are things that I want to leave in order, thats why, but it doesnt even matter. I should have killed myself when I was young to avoid all this pain and I feel like a coward for not having done it, and not doing it right now... I dont even know why I still keep searching. I havent found anyone in my nearly 36 years, the chance that Ill find someone in the next are not even worth considering...

Im a coward. And nobody wants me...
 

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painfully

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The problem is finding someone first... In dating apps i wont want to die with unrealistic pics or descriptions... Although a month ago I changed my profile pic with a better one, or at least I think so, but it seems that its not good for women...

Idk what advice could I possibly use... I need to be accepted for who I am... Attracting a girl with lies will only make it painful later...

And every day I get rejected so much... I put so much effort into searching for girls in reddit, reading their posts... I dont write to everyone, not in the slightest, I read a ton of posts daily... Some leave me broken... Still, when I dont have more posts to read I feel so hopeless, because the search ended...

Today a girl not only ignored my message, she blocked me... She was making extra sure I disappeared forever...
But just cause its the only one which I mention, its not the only one I had today...
 
#6
Most people don’t have the guts to tell you you’re not wanted, not interesting, not good enough for them. They will however happily get rid of you and do whatever it takes to not get bothered by you again. This is just how it is when people have no connection.

You don’t write to everyone, not everyone would want to write you back either, mutual attractiveness, especially when you are expected to give rather than receive - is even harder to achieve in your scenario. Everyone wants to get something positive, our nature is to seek comfort, pleasure and avoid pain and discomfort.

I always liked rodents - they are fun, but I never had them as pets because they die too fast. I don’t want to set a timer for sadness when I can avoid it. Same with people - why bother and surround yourself with someone who is not making your life any better? For contrast, so you can see you’re not as bad as the other person? Doubt that’s logical nor should be practiced - it’s unhealthy
 

painfully

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#8
when i see people with bfs and gfs it just makes me break down and want to cry, or directly cry...

i just read a post about a girl that is beaten by his bf, and she stays with him... i have read many posts like these, about rape, brutal beatings, and they still stay with them... in some occasions even saying that they love them so much...

and yet... AND YET... nobody in this damned world would even want me...

all i want is someone to love and care for and that loves me back... but it seems its an extremely tall order...

i must be the most ungodly disgusting trash that there is...

i just want to cry...
 
#9
i just want to cry...
I'm sorry you feel so bad.
i just read a post about a girl that is beaten by his bf, and she stays with him... i have read many posts like these, about rape, brutal beatings, and they still stay with them... in some occasions even saying that they love them so much...
Some people are good or bad at finding relationships, and some people are also good or bad at being in relationships.

Abusers are often really, really good at finding relationships, and may have a very skilled approach to luring in victims. They just become a nightmare when the relationship begins.
i must be the most ungodly disgusting trash that there is...
You're not trash. I think your approach to the dating process hasn't been successful. That doesn't make you bad.
 

painfully

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#10
Most posts I read doesnt seem like its from actual abusers that seek to abuse, just from guys that eventually turn to that, and they are loved...

My approach is basically be honest... I dont see how can I do anything else, specially for what I need... Also, most people are loved for what they are but not me...

I made a post in foreveralone reddit the other day and one of the comments was a girl that said that she was in the same situation and that she would eventually kill herself due to loneliness... I messaged her and she ignored me... So she would rather die than give me a chance...

How can I not feel like unwanted trash when all I get is rejection, since I was a kid... Clearly nobody wants me...

I just read a post of a girl that wants to improve herself for her husband... I just want to cry... Nobody wants me...
 
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Most posts I read doesnt seem like its from actual abusers that seek to abuse, just from guys that eventually turn to that, and they are loved...
I guess you can't actually know from someone's post. A real predator is probably not going to admit to doing that. It certainly does happen though.

Other people may not have the intention of exploiting and abusing, but the relationship goes bad. There are lots of people who are miserable in relationships.

My approach is basically be honest... I dont see how can I do anything else
The general approach most people have to dating is to try to high light appealing qualities, and then gradually let the person they are dating know everything about them later.

I'm not saying you shouldn't give someone you date some sense of forewarning, but you could also give them something to look forward to. If you write that no woman would ever want you, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You could emphasize that you have a lot of love to give. If you have a job, you could mention that you're employed. There may be some other good things about you that you could mention too. It just helps in finding someone if you can give them something to look forward to.
So she would rather die than give me a chance...
She may be fearful of people, or men in particular, and that is part of why she is alone yet desperately wanting a relationship.
How can I not feel like unwanted trash when all I get is rejection
It's understandable that being lonely and feeling rejected hurts.
 

painfully

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#12
I talked with another internet girl and sent my pic and she said im cute.... Shes not the first one to say that... But I just cannot believe it and it makes me angry... Because being cute is not the experience im having, im having the absolute opposite. I wish they said im ugly and disgusting, and it at least would match this shit...

If Im so cute why the fuck do the reject me... Oh yes, my personality... Because I have shitty unatractive traits... If i had shitty attractive traits it would be better, like if when Im hurt, instead of being sad, became angry and start hitting things... Or being so needy...

Nobody wants me... Im so tired of trying... Im so near the end...
 
#14
I talked with another internet girl and sent my pic and she said im cute
That's good :)
If Im so cute why the fuck do the reject me...
I think some of the things that you say about yourself may be frightening women away. Dating can be risky. Without some reassurance, it can be hard to convince a woman to date.

It's also true that dating is rough for people in general these days.
 

MyGirlyGirl

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#16
I'm a 27 years old woman and I'm single by force. My parents won't allow me date anyone. I always think I'm the loneliest person in the world too. I think some of us were born to be alone. The last time I talked to a man online was last week and he rejected me because I couldn't go on a date with him. I hope you the best.
 
#17
And all dating advice is just things to hide my personality or making me look like Im not what I am....
If a restaurant advertised itself by saying, "Everything you eat here is just going to get turned into a big pile of smelly poop after you digest it. Some of the stuff on the menu may contribute to heart disease, and we can't absolutely guarantee that an employee won't slip something gross or toxic into your food, or that you won't get food poisoning", who would want to eat there? Probably no one, even though all of those things are true about every restaurant. Likewise if you advertise yourself in a very negative way, it's not likely that many women would want to date you.

It's not being dishonest not to include a complete list of your mental health diagnoses, and your belief that no woman would want to date you.

You could say something about how much love you've got to give, or maybe that you're employed (if you are).

Is sexual surrogacy legal in Spain? If it is, do you think that would be something you could try?
 

painfully

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#18
i already say that in my reddit post that i repost every day in r4r, that i have a lot of love to give, and affection and support, and the bad stuff too...

i was talking with a girl in reddit, and it seemed to go ok, she wanted to cuddle with me. we talked for 5 days... but she suddenly disappeared without saying anything and it hurts...
 

BlackSheep 007

Well-Known Member
#19
Hey Mr. painfully, Hola, La Rioja aqui! Man, 35 - you still have so much ahead of you and you do not yet know, what it will bring, Just give it a shot. I had the same fears as you have - but it changed drastically, because I was forced to change it by going abroad. So I accepted what cannot be changed, but changed the rest - it worked (not always, nor all the time - but ok). Another thing is: the more you want something, the less chances you will get it! People smell your Aura, your weak points - and very often they use them to their own advantage.

I just wish you one thing - give it time. It will change!!
 

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