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#1
Hello, I've never really tried reaching out for support for this before but I'm a bit worried by how often my thoughts are leaning toward suicide lately. I've suffered from depression on and off for nearly 20 years I guess (I'm 33 now), and I thought I'd had a handle on it for a long time but those old thoughts of hopelessness are creeping back in as I get older. I've also been stuck in a profession I hate for a very long time, with my last job being particularly damaging to my mental health, sending me about as close to a mental breakdown as I've ever had, and my new one (which is also the one I was in previously) not turning out much better this time so far - been there about a month this time. Throw a few rejections from a series of women in a row into the mix - which I realise sounds overdramatic, but I'm reaching the age where it makes me wonder if I'll ever find a partner, or have kids. I also had to move back in to my mum's for financial reasons, and I feel a bit pathetic and hopeless in general, so it's all just adding up a bit.

Well, there's my horribly self-indulgent intro. Don't really know how this works or what I'm supposed to say, but hope you are all well. Much love X.
 
#3
Thanks. I'm thinking of switching jobs. I'm remembering what a prick my old boss was, he's a rich kid which some pretty horrible views on people, and it's hard to pretend not to find almost everything he says reprehensible. And he's so cheap about staff wages you generally have to do so much more than you do in any other chefing job I've worked. It's physically and mentally exhausting. I've only been back a month and I've already gotten pissed off a few times, so I'm thinking summer's just going to be way worse. I'm worried also because I'm hopefully getting a house next March - with a lot of help from my dad, or so he's promised. But I've not even had a contract yet. And my boss has pretty consistently forced out tons of staff he doesn't like, by dropping their hours to nothing so they quit on their own, so that's always going to be in the back of my head. My mortgage advisor has told me that they won't sign the papers more than 6 months before the house is built, which makes it September at the very earliest, and also that a lot of mortgage companies need you to have been in the same job for 6 months, for security, so doing the maths I feel like it might be worth the risk switching now, having payslips for May-October. I think all this is what's causing me anxiety, it just feels like a lot of pressure to stick out a job I might end up absolutely loathing (again) and the paranoia of my hours getting dropped at any time, which would mean I'd lose my house. The house market has also gone absolutely bonkers in the UK and I'll probably never find a new build - or any house for that matter - at this price ever again. Meaning I'd probably never afford my own place, and the idea of more years in my mum's tiny place is too much to bear. It's a bit suffocating. I sometimes feel it's just inevitable that the whole thing is going to fall apart - I don't even have the deposit all together yet, let alone solicitor fees or the difference in what I can borrow (there was about a 40k gap based on what I earned in my last job, and I did a lot of hours). My dad says he'll make up the difference, but I feel like he might change his mind at any time - he's been pretty verbally and emotionally abusive since I was very very young, or indifferent at best, and we've barely spoken for many years - maybe five times a year at the minute, and he lives on the same street. Anyway, I feel a bit trapped I think. Ideally I want out of chefing but it's all hospitality jobs in my area - I spent 2/3 weeks after I left my last job applying for anything but, and I was underqualified for all of it. Think I might apply for other jobs tomorrow. Or give it until the end of the month to see if I enjoy it any more, we'll see. I think I'm also scared that if I do get the house, it means I'm stuck in a country I kind of hate forever. Maybe I'll be miserable either way because my brain's wired wrong and that'll just never change, who knows.

Well, that was horribly self-indulgent, and can't imagine anyone made it this far, but I really needed to get it out, so thanks X.
 
#5
I'm super paranoid about when I go back on Friday. I did 100+ covers on my own on Tuesday, dying of flu, and after the shift had a bit of a vent about it to the waitress, and that the boss would say he's there as the second chef in the kitchen some shifts but mostly just sit at the bar drinking, flirting with the new girl (which is what he did last week). Don't think she's the most reliable so if she's repeated that today I'm probably fucked! He doesn't take any kind of negativity well, and he'll probably shit-can anyone out of spite. Wait and see I suppose. Maybe it'd be for the best.
 
#8
The fear of being stuck is absolutely one of my issues too. When I have huge decisions like yours, I make lists with marks for “+” & «-« , and that helps a little.
Best to you.
That's a good shout. I feel like I was so traumatised by the stress of the last job I just jumped back in to my old one without really thinking things through. I should probably sit down and make a list before I make any new big decisions. Thanks X.
 
#9
I also asked said waitress out for a coffee after work while we were chatting in the car park and she's been really off with me since then, to the extent of avoiding eye contact (the day after anyway) when before it felt like we were super friendly - *constantly* offering me drinks and giving me warm smiles at basically every opportunity, giving me an unsolicited hug when she was having a bad day before she left literally just a week before, giving me pointed jealous looks when I was sat chatting with the other waitress... It's pretty humiliating how bad I apparently am at reading women sometimes. I mean, it's probably my own fault, it's not the best idea dating co-workers, but in this profession it's hard to meet people any other way generally. But it was just a 'did she want to go somewhere and continue our conversation if she wanted to vent more about work' sort of thing. So I feel like I'm overdramatising it in my own head, but it's still made me feel absolutely terrible and pathetic.

Edit: I should add that I feel terrible on the chance that I've made her feel uncomfortable, not just because I was rejected. I don't *think* I have, but I'd feel like an absolute scumbag if that was the case.

And that's about everything that's on my mind! Oosh, that feels better.
 
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#10
It's pretty humiliating how bad I apparently am at reading women sometimes.
It sounds like she was sending you a lot of signals that could reasonably be interpreted as inviting. I don't think you were to blame.

I should add that I feel terrible on the chance that I've made her feel uncomfortable, not just because I was rejected. I don't *think* I have, but I'd feel like an absolute scumbag if that was the case.
Asking someone who's been engaging with you out for coffee is nothing outrageous. She should be able to handle this.

I don't think she tormented herself about giving you an unsolicited hug, I don't see why you'd think you're a scumbag for something so benign.
 
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#11
Hi @PaulProteus You sound like such a kind a caring person. Constantly concerned about how others may be feeling. But having this as part of your nature tends mean you feel the pain a lot more than some others do. It’s always the nice people that care so much they get depressed.
as for making choices about jobs and houses, one thing I have learnt is that there are always options. I’ve been told to right down any and all options, even the ridiculous ones and then start working my way through, crossing off some, considering or even trying others. I find it helpful to have my options written down and organised.
Keep talking and sharing with us. Good to have you here as part of the SF family. *hug Xx
 
#12
Thanks guys. Not got any real life friends I feel comfortable discussing this stuff with. I'm having an interview for another job on Tuesday. Worked all day with that girl today and she pretty much blanked me all day, made me feel absolutely horrible. I lose sleep over worrying I've upset people. Maybe I'm too sensitive. Maybe I'm right to feel like a terrible person. Should mention I'm 33 and she's 19, though she just got out of a relationship with a 28 year old - not that justifies me being keen on her. But then all I said was did she want to continue our conversation over coffee. Why do I torture myself over stuff like this? Or am I right to?
 

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#13
Welcome Paul glad to have you in are little community i have found this to be a great place to reach out for help and have a good time with people i now consider friends as i am sure you will find over time

i have to agree with others you sound a caring person i hope that just being able to get your issues down on here as helped

for me I feel the fact you are to sensitive i am right there i put other people first with my time my money anything to my own detriment my own issues are in part caused by that side of me

people have told me to be more selfish but i just cannot help it being a soft touch
 
#14
Thank you MAC0. I get the impression that this is such a lovely community, this is exactly what I needed.

I'm hoping Man City slip up too, for what it's worth! Not today though apparently! I'm a Swansea fan but Liverpool were my childhood club.
 

MAC0

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#15
You won me over already lol I hope it will happen but I have a feeling were both going to win out which will be ok as it means we win the fa cup and champions league

yea this forum is great for you then lot of people who understand what its like and are happy to give advice I am only about a month and half into my time here and its been great even made a few friends something I don't have in real life
 

Waves

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#18
It is hard to read women. They can be friendly and do not want it to mean they are flirting. Just like a man too. Then they might be entertaining the idea of flirting but they get she’ll shocked when the man makes a move. I think they need things to go slow maybe.
 
#19
It is hard to read women. They can be friendly and do not want it to mean they are flirting. Just like a man too. Then they might be entertaining the idea of flirting but they get she’ll shocked when the man makes a move. I think they need things to go slow maybe.
You're right. But don't torture me for a week for making a move that didn't work out. I can handle rejection. I've been systemically programmed to face it, I'm pretty qualified at that at this point.
 

Waves

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#20
You're right. But don't torture me for a week for making a move that didn't work out. I can handle rejection. I've been systemically programmed to face it, I'm pretty qualified at that at this point.
I think she is embarrassed or afraid to think she is leading you on so she has completely withdrawn. Survival reaction I think. It does hurt though yes. If only could turn back time
 

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