The "emo" scene

[anonymous51]

Im sure we're all aware of this "culture" by now and i feel things have been taken a bit far with the whole thing to be honest. They've even got themselves an article on the BBC website here is the link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7425450.stm


now some of the comments infuriated me, things like how "emos were the future of britain" and crap like that so i decided to leave them a comment which i hope will be posted on the website for all to see...


Im so sick of the fact that we are forced to take on a certain label like branding ourselves with the mark of the record label or clothing company we wear. Why cant i just be me? Youll rarley see me out of jeans and a hoodie, why does that make me a potential criminal? Were in the middle of a cultural cess pool right now, yet we are blinded to this fact by the labels telling us about the "latest hot new scene" which is just a rehash of something that was done 20 years
ago and it makes me really angry.

I feel jealous of my parents upbringing during the 70s and 80s, they had artists who stood on their level and made true unbiased uncensored music from the heart. There was a real feeling of involvement and excitement from all the new movements breaking out. I want people like that in todays world, why do we have to rake through our parents record collection to listen to some good music.

There is noone speaking for our generation any more, all these bands do is speak about what sells, like puppets with the masters hand placed firmly up their backsides.

People can do whatever the heck they want, but unless something changes soon, and we recieve the musical revolution we desperatley need to wipe out this "emo" rubbish out of our system, i am going to be seriously ashamed to be known in history as what will be undoubtedly known as the "cultural dark age."



Does anyone else agree? or am i completley missing the point of this scene.

 

[Esmeralda]

I liked the "emo" (today) movement better when it was called "goth" (90's), and before that, "new wave" (80's) and before that, "punk" (60's-70's), and before that, I'm sure it was called something else. This is nothing new, just recycled garbage with a new label.

 

[hammockmonkey]

My question about emos is directed at the guys. How can it be comfortable to wear women's jeans? Seriously where does the penis go?

 

[A Self Made Loser]

My question about emos is directed at the guys. How can it be comfortable to wear women's jeans? Seriously where does the penis go?

That is the question I have always asked. Labels like Levi are doing these tight fitting wo-MEN jeans as standard. How is the average guy suppose to squeeze into them? Especially if you are a keen sports person who has developed sports legs as it were. The emo guys I normally see about are usually quite feminine and may do the old lift and tuck with their nuts to fit in them......perhaps??:unsure:

 

[ggg456]

On Saturday, hundreds of emos are planning to march on the Daily Mail's headquarters in protest at the newspaper's coverage of their subculture. The tabloid has labelled emo a "suicide cult" which glorifies self-harm and "romanticises death" - a charge vociferously denied by most emos.
Fans vehemently deny the music encourages suicide or self-harm

:laugh: I have to see that...

While previous generation of bands, like the Smiths and Nirvana, may have also stood accused of wallowing in gloom, to the critics at least, the emo scene specialises in the kind of morbid lyrics that make Leonard Cohen sound like Sinitta.

Here is a passage from Dead! by emo superstars My Chemical Romance (MCR): "Have you heard the news that you're dead?/No-one ever had much nice to say/I think they never liked you anyway/Oh take me from the hospital bed."

:rofl: sounds more comic than 'dark'

"Listening to a band like MCR is a cathartic thing. And I suppose emo style is meant to be about standing out, looking different - even if all the other emo kids are dressed the same as you."

:huh:

Matthew Hirons, a 22-year-old web developer from Stourport-on-Severn, is even more phlegmatic. He suggests that the critics take the music far more seriously than the fans.
"People say emo is all about depression and suicide," he says. "But I'm a happy person. I've got a girlfriend and a good job. I just like the music and the fashion.

That's what I don't get about this 'march.' What do they think they are going to prove other than reaffirming generalisations and stereotypes that work against them by looking like a bunch of 'over-sensitive teenagers' marching against their precious subculture being insulted by THE authoritive voice of the Daily Mail when all the DM is doing is regurgitating stereotypes that have been around for how many years? It's not like this 'news' is new, so why the march now? Why all the angst now? Are they avid Daily Mail readers or what?

 

[Spearmint]

'Emo's. :dry:

 

[worlds edge]

I feel jealous of my parents upbringing during the 70s and 80s, they had artists who stood on their level and made true unbiased uncensored music from the heart. There was a real feeling of involvement and excitement from all the new movements breaking out. I want people like that in todays world, why do we have to rake through our parents record collection to listen to some good music.

Statements like this are about the only thing that can make me honestly laugh these days. I was a kid during the 1970s and 1980s, and there was a huge subculture at that time in my high school fixated on the Doors (especially them, for some reason), Jimi Hendrix, the Beatles, even Cream and early Led Zeppelin. Why? Because these kids felt that, ya know, those artists from the '60s were the ones "who stood on their level and made true unbiased uncensored music from the heart," not like this Violent Femmes, The Cure, Circle Jerks, New Order, Germ Free Adolescents, Husker Du, Gary Numan garbage of our day.

FWIW, when I mentioned the above once to somebody who went to my high school during the late 1960s, guess what? He laughed and told me that, yup, there was ALSO a subculture of kids when he was there interested in Beat Generation culture of the 1950s, down to the black turtlenecks, berets and even bongo drums. Not quite sure what music they listened to, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was Coltrane/Gene Krupa -era Jazz or maybe, some sort of Folk. But, doubtless they felt, well I think you can figure it out.

So, on and on it goes...hell, if I can derive a sense of irony from this sort of thing, perhaps I'm not as far gone as I'd otherwise think. Perhaps in 25 or so years a new generation will be sneering about whatever XYZ music is then ascendent and looking remorsefully backwards to My Chemical Romance or Dashboard Confessional as the really meaningful stuff?

 

[bb564]

I don't care what social group people belong to, or what social group they want to belong to, or what group people think they belong to. I hate how it's become customary for people to hate other people based on their music taste, or whether they dress like chavs or whatever. I hate people that say things like 'death to chavs', and join groups dedicating to hating chavs or emos on bebo, facebook, and whatnot.

It upsets me because we already have enough shit going on. We don't need more hate, we got people dying left right and centre all voer the world.

Today's youth needs to direct it's hate towards the more important bad things in this world.

 

[worlds edge]

I liked the "emo" (today) movement better when it was called "goth" (90's), and before that, "new wave" (80's) and before that, "punk" (60's-70's), and before that, I'm sure it was called something else.

Mmm, hmm. In the UK there was the Teddy Boy/Mods movement of the early '60s. As featured in the movie Quadrophenia. Alienated youths driving around on Italian motor scooters listening to American Blues.

The so-called Beat Generation in the US of the 1950s is probably not a perfect analog, since a lot of the adherents were quite a bit older. But it is possibly within spitting distance of being something similar. Perhaps you could even go back to the "Lost Generation" of the 1920s, though, again, doubtless an older demographic.

This is nothing new, just recycled garbage with a new label.

But, but, but, my friends and I used to think this video was just so damn deep. Captured the alienation we all felt. :laugh: (Actually, not that bad a song or video, if you can get past the Attack of the New Wave Mullet Robert Hazard is sporting as his hair. What can I say? You can take the boy out of Philadelphia, but you can't take the Philadelphia out of the boy.)

 

[Darken]

We should try to assist a new hip culture, with intelligent or deep music. I think lots of easy listening, ambient, new age, and electronica are great. Most music I listen to doesn't even have lyrics and I think its deep. GOod for relaxing and meditating, relieves stress. I bet if it was popular instead of rap and rock the world would be much different, better even.

Yeah who ever said we shouldn't judge people on the cultures their involved in is kind right though. Still 90 Percent of rap is ridiculous garbage imo.

 

[ggg456]

But, but, but, my friends and I used to think this video was just so damn deep. Captured the alienation we all felt. :laugh: (Actually, not that bad a song or video, if you can get past the Attack of the New Wave Mullet Robert Hazard is sporting as his hair. What can I say? You can take the boy out of Philadelphia, but you can't take the Philadelphia out of the boy.)

:laugh: sounds like my classy teenage poetry translated and butchered into a bizarre video/tune. I love that.

 

[ggg456]

There's always good music being made out there, everywhere ,that actually says something that means something. You just need to dig harder and find it. I've given up recently....I'm behind in everything. Way behind. Some might say I was fashionably, very cooly behind but I don't think so:mellow: I don't think I'm behind enough. I just listen to the Manic Street Preachers/holy bible a lot as they remind me of when I was 17 and reflects my inner mental state now... :laugh:

 

[anonymous51]

gmork you have to admit that back then there was new music getting released, there was so many different types of groups playing. These days everything is just the same as each other, you listen to songs from 10 different bands and all the songs sound like they came from 1 band. Why cant we have something new like they did?

 

[lifeisashedog]

What Emos want...

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1146482180/Kill_the_Emo

Just push play :biggrin:

 

[BioHomocide]

What Emos want...

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1146482180/Kill_the_Emo

Just push play :biggrin:

That was fuggen sweet!

Thanks for the entertainment.

 

[bleach]

This video rules:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ACgedNo-Oo&feature=related

 

[worlds edge]

gmork you have to admit that back then there was new music getting released, there was so many different types of groups playing.

I like most of the music from that period, its about all I listen to. :smile:

Just borrowed a Human League Greatest Hits CD from the library and am doing the rip/burn thing as I type this. :tongue:

These days everything is just the same as each other, you listen to songs from 10 different bands and all the songs sound like they came from 1 band. Why cant we have something new like they did?

I actually don't listen to much if any music produced from 1990 forward. I'm old, I can do this. :tongue: When the Seattle grunge stuff started coming out I basically sealed myself off from anything new. So, in truth I don't have a clue.

My point was more that there was a lot of complaining very similar to what you're saying here back then about the music of that time. If you could get your hands on some of the music magazines from that period, you'd find a great deal of writing complaining about how everything sounds the same, especially the synth/pop stuff. I remember trying to get my friends in high school interested in Flash and the Pan, The Alarm, and Psychedelic Furs. They basically laughed at me...it was a little bit different in college, but since I went to a state school even that place seemed like my high school writ large.

 

[starchild]

It's kindda funny that as this 'scene' has become more popular, most bands who are considered to be affiliated with it have tried to distance themselves from the tag alltogether, insisting that they were never emo in the first place. It's become almost a dirty word within music circles, despite its popularity.

 

[Aquariamethystea]

All "emo" is and will ever be, is another corporate/social created marketing group. Eventually, it'll morph into another group, as other members have posted writing about.

 

[hammockmonkey]

Emo did start out as a real scene, it's just been co-oped like punk was and hardcore was. well, maybe not hardcore. . .