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I relapsed a couple months ago and of course everything spiraled down quickly. I've gone from 0 to 60 in a heartbeat. Thrown back in the familiar cycle like I never left broke out in the first place. How many times have I "quit"? How many strategies have I tried? It's all the same, I just keep coming back to it. Been at war since high school---- 9 years--- with no end in sight. The familiar cycle is a vicious cycle. Why do we do what we do?
enrolled public school for the first time in 6th grade, one year later I would start cutting. The next, a suicide attempt would be made. Fast forward to my Sophomore year and I would discover my drug of choice. These are MySpace days, then Facebook ones.
Frequency of cutting times steadily increased until it hit it's peak, senior year.
I decided in 7th grade and since then that I would be free to leave the Earth once my parents are gone. Surely the suicide of your own child would traumatize you, you would convince yourself from the bottom of your heart that it was in part, if not fully, your fault. Something you did, the way you are, your lack of something. I can't have that on MY conscious. I'd never say or think that my parents are culprits, and I don't want them to think they are either.
I felt bad for feeling bad growing up because I never thought I had a reason to, no trauma or anything else to identify as a cause. I concluded I'm fundamentally flawed, an accident. I'm here in place of the person who really should have been here. Crying and crying, apologizing, loathing myself, wishing I was dead, wishing I wasn't a coward and finally followed through with a plan. Staying up to torture and shame myself for being too much of a selfish coward to do the deed successfully. And my fear of hell and life after death held me back some times. So I'm selfish, forcing other people to endure my presence because I'm too scared to do what's right. I spent many many nights crying in despair, wondering what's wrong with me, wondering why I'm here, and wishing I wasn't born. As I cursed my birth, lamented about the struggles of life, the burdens, the pain... I vowed to never have children. In no way do I want to be responsible for subjecting someone with life because the world is too painful, too hard, too corrupted. This is something I really did think about a lot. No one asks to be born, they just are. Yet I have a four year old daughter regardless, and I'm terrified of f****** her up. I'm sorry she was unfortunate enough to have me as her mother. This is the real kicker too. I fear being mean to her. I believe my mom was mean to me too in some ways. But I really am mean to my daughter. I don't understand why. I love her, feel guilty right after and left wondering what the h*** is wrong with me. I legit fear that I'm gonna become an emotionally abusive mother. I don't think my mean streak is going anywhere. It hides and slips out here and there just like my mom's mean streak, brought out in the right circumstances. What did she do to deserve any of this? Absolutely nothing. She's better off without me in the picture. Her dad's new girlfriend is around his own age and has 3 kids. She has experience being a mom and my daughter loves playing with her new siblings. There's also a puppy and cat in the picture now too. All this, whereas in that same home it was just the three of us before.
I'm tired of trying. I'm getting nowhere, fast. Just wasting space.
I've been mixing my drugs, I know that's a dangerous game but maybe that's the point. My well-being isn't on the top of the priorities list. I also started cutting again. Satisfying and painful, and addicting. If I could permanently switch cutting and drugs, I would chose to have a cutting habit for the rest of my life, gladly. If I get too out of it I don't know what I am capable of doing to myself though.
These last few days I've been especially unstable as my daughter told me she missed her dad. We have 50/50 custody, switch back and forth one week at a time, and at the time she said that there was only 2 days until she would see him again. It cut me deep to hear that, because what I heard is really that she would rather not be with me. Am I reading too much into it? Probably. Knowing that doesn't make me read into things any less. Knowledge is power but sometimes it's not enough power. I can explain the intricacies of addiction in detail, give a lecture, answer most questions, from studying the disease on several occasions. This has not deterred me from indulging in my drug of choice. It's a mad, cruel world, I tell you.
Thanks for letting me vent.
 

1964dodge

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#2
I relapsed a couple months ago and of course everything spiraled down quickly. I've gone from 0 to 60 in a heartbeat. Thrown back in the familiar cycle like I never left broke out in the first place. How many times have I "quit"? How many strategies have I tried? It's all the same, I just keep coming back to it. Been at war since high school---- 9 years--- with no end in sight. The familiar cycle is a vicious cycle. Why do we do what we do?
enrolled public school for the first time in 6th grade, one year later I would start cutting. The next, a suicide attempt would be made. Fast forward to my Sophomore year and I would discover my drug of choice. These are MySpace days, then Facebook ones.
Frequency of cutting times steadily increased until it hit it's peak, senior year.
I decided in 7th grade and since then that I would be free to leave the Earth once my parents are gone. Surely the suicide of your own child would traumatize you, you would convince yourself from the bottom of your heart that it was in part, if not fully, your fault. Something you did, the way you are, your lack of something. I can't have that on MY conscious. I'd never say or think that my parents are culprits, and I don't want them to think they are either.
I felt bad for feeling bad growing up because I never thought I had a reason to, no trauma or anything else to identify as a cause. I concluded I'm fundamentally flawed, an accident. I'm here in place of the person who really should have been here. Crying and crying, apologizing, loathing myself, wishing I was dead, wishing I wasn't a coward and finally followed through with a plan. Staying up to torture and shame myself for being too much of a selfish coward to do the deed successfully. And my fear of hell and life after death held me back some times. So I'm selfish, forcing other people to endure my presence because I'm too scared to do what's right. I spent many many nights crying in despair, wondering what's wrong with me, wondering why I'm here, and wishing I wasn't born. As I cursed my birth, lamented about the struggles of life, the burdens, the pain... I vowed to never have children. In no way do I want to be responsible for subjecting someone with life because the world is too painful, too hard, too corrupted. This is something I really did think about a lot. No one asks to be born, they just are. Yet I have a four year old daughter regardless, and I'm terrified of f****** her up. I'm sorry she was unfortunate enough to have me as her mother. This is the real kicker too. I fear being mean to her. I believe my mom was mean to me too in some ways. But I really am mean to my daughter. I don't understand why. I love her, feel guilty right after and left wondering what the h*** is wrong with me. I legit fear that I'm gonna become an emotionally abusive mother. I don't think my mean streak is going anywhere. It hides and slips out here and there just like my mom's mean streak, brought out in the right circumstances. What did she do to deserve any of this? Absolutely nothing. She's better off without me in the picture. Her dad's new girlfriend is around his own age and has 3 kids. She has experience being a mom and my daughter loves playing with her new siblings. There's also a puppy and cat in the picture now too. All this, whereas in that same home it was just the three of us before.
I'm tired of trying. I'm getting nowhere, fast. Just wasting space.
I've been mixing my drugs, I know that's a dangerous game but maybe that's the point. My well-being isn't on the top of the priorities list. I also started cutting again. Satisfying and painful, and addicting. If I could permanently switch cutting and drugs, I would chose to have a cutting habit for the rest of my life, gladly. If I get too out of it I don't know what I am capable of doing to myself though.
These last few days I've been especially unstable as my daughter told me she missed her dad. We have 50/50 custody, switch back and forth one week at a time, and at the time she said that there was only 2 days until she would see him again. It cut me deep to hear that, because what I heard is really that she would rather not be with me. Am I reading too much into it? Probably. Knowing that doesn't make me read into things any less. Knowledge is power but sometimes it's not enough power. I can explain the intricacies of addiction in detail, give a lecture, answer most questions, from studying the disease on several occasions. This has not deterred me from indulging in my drug of choice. It's a mad, cruel world, I tell you.
Thanks for letting me vent.
*console*hug
 

Nick

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I hear a lot of pain in what you've written. You're not alone here, there are a lot of people who can relate to you. I hope you are able to find something here, a solace and a place you can share your thoughts. I hope to see you around.
 

Cagla

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hey, i know you will think of it as fancy word but i mean it. you can send me a pm and i wwill answer. we can talk and even if not everything can be fixed, you may feel better at some point. if you dont wanna do it for yourself, do it for your kid. because clearly your kid will miss you a lot hen you are gone. she may not know what you go through. she is a baby. she cannot. but we know. just hold our hand, will you? write to me or anybody. we can change things. not switching pills.....
 
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Sorry that you're going through this

How many strategies have I tried?
Do you want to say what you've tried and what your drug of choice is? There may be some treatment options that you haven't tired that could be worth a shot.
Yet I have a four year old daughter regardless, and I'm terrified of f****** her up. I'm sorry she was unfortunate enough to have me as her mother. This is the real kicker too. I fear being mean to her. I believe my mom was mean to me too in some ways. But I really am mean to my daughter. I don't understand why. I love her, feel guilty right after and left wondering what the h*** is wrong with me.
While it would be better not to be mean to her in the first place, apologizing to her could go a long way. When she's old enough to understand, maybe you could try to explain to her.

It could be that a therapist could help you change your behaviors, or help work out a way that you can minimize any harm to your daughter.

I hope that things can get better soon
 

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Hello there and welcome to the forum. I'm sorry that you're not doing well at the moment. You talk a lot about your daughter here. She is, in fact, a pretty good reason to try to stay around. Kids are tough, you know? It's not easy to know exactly what to do. You say that you are "mean" to her but what does that mean? That's kind of subjective. If you believe that to be true I'm sure you can find some parenting classes locally.
How are you feeling now, a few days after joining?
 
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Sorry that you're going through this


Do you want to say what you've tried and what your drug of choice is? There may be some treatment options that you haven't tired that could be worth a shot.

While it would be better not to be mean to her in the first place, apologizing to her could go a long way. When she's old enough to understand, maybe you could try to explain to her.

It could be that a therapist could help you change your behaviors, or help work out a way that you can minimize any harm to your daughter.

I hope that things can get better soon
I don’t know if I want to say what my DOC is, I don’t like the reaction I get when I tell someone. This is a caring community, I see, so maybe later. It’s an OTC drug and not a common addiction. But I went though outpatient after being caught with marijuana with a friend not far from the high school. After graduating from outpatient I continued to go to a youth NA group and kept in touch with an intern via email. I went back voluntarily a couple years ago to tackle the issue and did quit but my success didn’t last long, like all the times before. I feel I’ve learned all I can from the groups and my own research, so I tried therapy for the first time last December, thinking maybe drug use is a symptom of some underlying disorder and that needs to be worked on first. I don’t see that counselor anymore but I got in touch with a psychologist that specializes in mood disorders and requested an evaluation and/or disorder detecting test. Took it today and got some food for thought, haven’t decided what to do with this new info.
If this continues to get worse inpatient treatment may have to be the next step although I’ll do everything in my power to avoid that.
 

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I don’t know if I want to say what my DOC is, I don’t like the reaction I get when I tell someone. This is a caring community, I see, so maybe later. It’s an OTC drug and not a common addiction. But I went though outpatient after being caught with marijuana with a friend not far from the high school. After graduating from outpatient I continued to go to a youth NA group and kept in touch with an intern via email. I went back voluntarily a couple years ago to tackle the issue and did quit but my success didn’t last long, like all the times before. I feel I’ve learned all I can from the groups and my own research, so I tried therapy for the first time last December, thinking maybe drug use is a symptom of some underlying disorder and that needs to be worked on first. I don’t see that counselor anymore but I got in touch with a psychologist that specializes in mood disorders and requested an evaluation and/or disorder detecting test. Took it today and got some food for thought, haven’t decided what to do with this new info.
If this continues to get worse inpatient treatment may have to be the next step although I’ll do everything in my power to avoid that.
*hug*hug*hug*hug
 
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I don’t know if I want to say what my DOC is
It may not be critical to know what the specific drug is. I wouldn't judge you though.
maybe drug use is a symptom of some underlying disorder and that needs to be worked on first
I think that's probably true.
Acupuncture and traditional Chinese herbal medicine can treat a lot of addictions. I think it's supposed to work well for opioids, but less well for alcohol and cocaine. If you have any interest, I could try to say more.
 
#12
Hello there and welcome to the forum. I'm sorry that you're not doing well at the moment. You talk a lot about your daughter here. She is, in fact, a pretty good reason to try to stay around. Kids are tough, you know? It's not easy to know exactly what to do. You say that you are "mean" to her but what does that mean? That's kind of subjective. If you believe that to be true I'm sure you can find some parenting classes locally.
How are you feeling now, a few days after joining?
I guess by “mean” I’m talking about snapping, overreacting to small problems or mistakes. I also used to use smacking the back of her hand as a type of punishment but have definitely gotten away from doing that as much. I think especially because she’s at an age that she can explain things with words and of course understand my words better. I haven’t looked into parenting classes, I think I would feel extremely uncomfortable because I'm too young by most people’s standards in my conservative town to be a mom. I do a fair amount of reading online about parenting when I have a question.
I’m feeling good and bad about being here. I’ve made at least 3 comments and posts that I wish I hadn’t and found out the hard way you can’t delete things once they are up.. so I’ll be more careful I guess. It’s a little heart-wrenching to read some of the things people have put up here and I feel like my problems are small compared to most, but I’m happy about the opportunity to potentially help someone out here.
 

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Hi again
I was also has my kid young (16) so I feel you there. I'm not in an ultra conservative place so that probably makes some difference but so does 25 years (when I had him).
I'm sorry you're struggling with being a mom. It just doesn't come with a manual does it? Would be so much easier with some step by step directions. Or - the kids all act relatively the same. No one is doing it perfectly though, that's for sure. You can indeed take some steps to improve that while she's young. (I did because I was ill prepared)
How are things?
 
#14
Things are at least better today. I feel like I got the much needed rest I had been missing for a while. I was feeling especially down yesterday and a coworker said he didn’t know what was going on but could tell I wasn’t alright and told me he would finish my work so I could go home. That was touching.
I’m also just really happy I found this place, seriously. This is probably the best healthy outlet I’ll ever find for myself. I don’t even remember what I was google searching when I came across this tbh. But I’m very happy to be here—the anonymity allows me to say things 100% honestly, and I also get the chance to help others who need it.
For a long time I wanted to be a therapist or counselor. This isn’t that exactly but it’s damn close.
 
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