I have not been to this forum in sometime and a thought has been consuming me lately that I feel would be best discussed here. Sorry if this is not the right place for this. That said; I have been dealing with a particularly difficult time in my life and suicide is taking up most of my thoughts again and I was thinking: Who is more selfish; the people that commit suicide, or the people that tell them not to? I always hear people say its selfish to commit suicide because of all the people left behind. I disagree with this. Why force someone to suffer? My point being if you had a dog that was old and had lots of life threatening issues people would tell you it was selfish to keep using the vet to keep it alive and that you should put it down. Its selfish to force that dog to live in pain and discomfort. It should be the same with people; why would you want to force someone to live with the problems that plague them on a daily basis just so you can see them when you want? For the sake of argument I ask that we keep this conversation based on people that have a long history with depression and/or traumatic events. Not someone that had a bad day or broke up with a girl or something else more common with the younger people that have nothing to compare to.