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Diabetes

dandelions

me
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#61
Ugh. Diabetes.. I got my 3 mth thingy (Hba1C whatever) from 12 to 8 in 3 months. Full bloods show no kidney damage at all.

I tell you the important thing re diabetes though - it’s big $. This means the machines (basically a fake pancreas which is easy to use & even looks kinda cool now) will be affordable to the average person soon (around $10K + supplies in Australia as of June this year).

The disease is not rocket science but the average docs aren’t that good.. I managed to pull strings and see a good Endocrinologist though. He was the only medical professional who told me that about the machines. When something’s an epidemic (Type 2 diabetes is a lifestyle disease) pharmaceutical companies are right onto it and technology is faster than the speed of light now.


My main strategy (how I went from 12-8 in a few months) is low-carb, high protein. Low-carb mainly. Plus a small dose of long-acting insulin (most type 2s don’t need insulin at first).

My best friends food-wise are: fish (salmon), nuts, beans, pears (low-GI fruit), olives, cheese, dark choc (say 80% cocoa), coffee/tea.

Wholemeal bread (multigrain is best but the seeds get stuck in my teeth!) White bread is deadly (sugar++).

Pulse pasta: Made from legumes ie. More protein, less carbs, more fibre.


Don’t bother with “diabetic chocolate” or any of that. It’s $$$ and has about 3 different artificial sweeteners, which give you gas from hell.

I do use aspartame in coffee/tea/coke. Stevia is meant to be the best but again it’s $$$ and it doesn’t even dissolve properly in coffee. Aspartame is meant to cause brain cancer but I’ll risk that for now ;)

The best strategy is to get used to less sweetness.


Good luck.. :)
For me, absolutely no artificial sweeteners except in breathmints. I always have my coffee un and usually tea. But I also love the bottled sweetened stuff. Do you know - is maple syrup ok in small quantities? I've been finding mixed info on that.
And waffles home made with 1/3 bran instead of flour? There are some things that giving up will make me cry profusely and even verge on anger if not out right anger. I love food so bleeping much. It's like someone said, how do you cope???? Let's take that away!
 
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gypsylee

SF Supporter
#62
Ugh. Diabetes.. I got my 3 mth thingy (Hba1C whatever) from 12 to 8 in 3 months. Full bloods show no kidney damage at all.

I tell you the important thing re diabetes though - it’s big $. This means the machines (basically a fake pancreas which is easy to use & even looks kinda cool now) will be affordable to the average person soon (around $10K + supplies in Australia as of June this year).

The disease is not rocket science but the average docs aren’t that good.. I managed to pull strings and see a good Endocrinologist though. He was the only medical professional who told me that about the machines. When something’s an epidemic (Type 2 diabetes is a lifestyle disease) pharmaceutical companies are right onto it and technology is faster than the speed of light now.


My main strategy (how I went from 12-8 in a few months) is low-carb, high protein. Low-carb mainly. Plus a small dose of long-acting insulin (most type 2s don’t need insulin at first).

My best friends food-wise are: fish (salmon), nuts, beans, pears (low-GI fruit), olives, cheese, dark choc (say 80% cocoa), coffee/tea.

Wholemeal bread (multigrain is best but the seeds get stuck in my teeth!) White bread is deadly (sugar++).

Pulse pasta: Made from legumes ie. More protein, less carbs, more fibre.


Don’t bother with “diabetic chocolate” or any of that. It’s $$$ and has about 3 different artificial sweeteners, which give you gas from hell.

I do use aspartame in coffee/tea/coke. Stevia is meant to be the best but again it’s $$$ and it doesn’t even dissolve properly in coffee. Aspartame is meant to cause brain cancer but I’ll risk that for now ;)

The best strategy is to get used to less sweetness.


Good luck.. :)
For me, absolutely no artificial sweeteners except in breathmints. I always have my coffee un and usually tea. But I also love the bottled sweetened stuff. Do you know - is maple syrup ok in small quantities? I've been finding mixed info on that.
And waffles home made with 1/3 bran instead of flour? There are some things that giving up will make me cry profusely and even verge on anger if not out right anger. I love food so bleeping much. It's like someone said, how do you cope???? Let's take that away!
Well food has never been a big deal for me.. I didn’t get diabetes bc of how I ate. Mine is a weird case.

But yeah, sweet stuff like maple syrup in small amounts is fine. I sometimes have some jam but just a little bit.

You don’t want to know the (high) blood sugar levels I’ve had (and functioned normally with). Low blood sugar is a different story and it’s why I minimise insulin - I hate the stuff. So I always err on the high side.
 

dandelions

me
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#63
I actually ended up having a hypo
I don't think my symptoms are due to high sugar levels
i’m wondering if you know, (maybe i asked this already?) does blood sugar or maybe even medication have an effect on thinking? i have been so unstable emotionally lately and to me it feels like it is in conjunction with my diabetes/sugar problems. i’m on a couple diabetes meds and also (forgot to mention) high blood pressure and cholesterol meds. i know ive had on going mental issues but i feel as if diabetes has triggered greater mental problems or vise versa. so i really am hoping to find out, if there is any kind of connection. and if not you, i’m hoping someone will read this and let me know.
 
#64
i’m wondering if you know, (maybe i asked this already?) does blood sugar or maybe even medication have an effect on thinking? i have been so unstable emotionally lately and to me it feels like it is in conjunction with my diabetes/sugar problems. i’m on a couple diabetes meds and also (forgot to mention) high blood pressure and cholesterol meds. i know ive had on going mental issues but i feel as if diabetes has triggered greater mental problems or vise versa. so i really am hoping to find out, if there is any kind of connection. and if not you, i’m hoping someone will read this and let me know.
I think there can be a link, sugar is imo toxic and can really mess up your entire system. I've reached a point where I think my diet is actually too low sugar and I need fresh squeezed orange to bring it back up more from time to time. But yeah, my problems with blood sugar started when I was falsely accused of something I was not doing. Thankfully I got help but it took a long time and quite a disciplined diet where I only took extra sugars in the form of a spoon of honey when I felt it going too low. It was very hard. I think one of the best things is to minimize stress. Healthy fats are essential, and I've found fish and salads helpful.
 

dandelions

me
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#65
I think there can be a link, sugar is imo toxic and can really mess up your entire system. I've reached a point where I think my diet is actually too low sugar and I need fresh squeezed orange to bring it back up more from time to time. But yeah, my problems with blood sugar started when I was falsely accused of something I was not doing. Thankfully I got help but it took a long time and quite a disciplined diet where I only took extra sugars in the form of a spoon of honey when I felt it going too low. It was very hard. I think one of the best things is to minimize stress. Healthy fats are essential, and I've found fish and salads helpful.
yeah, i’m walking a tightrope with eating i think and also that maybe i don’t have to or shouldn’t. that alone, though helpful is also very stressful. i have been drinking half glasses of fruit juice occasionally. i’ve been eating more greens. and protein both meat and vege like soy. but if i don’t have lunch at a good time i go all shakey and cant come down for 2 or 3 hours. that sends my thoughts to places i don’t want to be. i have been getting fairly ok sugar readings though and want to bring it down a bit more.
 
#66
yeah, i’m walking a tightrope with eating i think and also that maybe i don’t have to or shouldn’t. that alone, though helpful is also very stressful. i have been drinking half glasses of fruit juice occasionally. i’ve been eating more greens. and protein both meat and vege like soy. but if i don’t have lunch at a good time i go all shakey and cant come down for 2 or 3 hours. that sends my thoughts to places i don’t want to be. i have been getting fairly ok sugar readings though and want to bring it down a bit more.
Probably the safest thing is to gradually reduce sugars. The shakes are really horrible, did you speak to a doctor about it?
 

dandelions

me
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#67
Probably the safest thing is to gradually reduce sugars. The shakes are really horrible, did you speak to a doctor about it?
at the time i saw my dr it was not a noticable thing yet, but i did let him know later. i tested today at noonish when the shakes were pretty bad and got a safe level that was lower than anytime since it went up real high a week+ ago. so i am thinking my body is accustomed to a higher lever so when i go down to normal i shake. is that possible?
 

dandelions

me
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#71
Sounds like maybe some hypoglycaemia going on for you? It can definitely be triggered by stressful events. Are there ways you can change your diet to lower your sugars a bit? Can you ask your doctor? Don't change things without getting good advice, preferably of a good doctor. I can recommend ketogenic diet but obviously it has to be done with great care. It can help the blood sugar issues. I managed to get my sugars down low.. actually too low, that I only feel ok if I have a small chocolate milkshake now and again. My diet is pretty low carb but not fully ketogenic. I eat a lot of fish and salads.

I don't manage potatoes very well, they tend to set things off balance.
i want to ask a question and maybe you have an idea, i have made an observation. first, i am presently on metformin twice a day and tradjenta in the evening. what i’ve noticed is that if i have “too much” sweet in the evening, my blood tests significantly lower the next morning like very close to 100 (104ish). so i’m wondering what is going on? does a certain intake amount of sugar actually help? (yeah right - dream on), but do you know why this is happening?
 
#72
I really don't know because I haven't taken any meds like that for the blood sugar problems, I literally just changed my diet to help. All I can say is that some days if I take around 7 - 10 grams of sugar - like a small milkshake or something, I tend to feel a bit better, I don't know why, maybe I had way too low levels? I previously was way too high blood sugar (in 2017), almost diabetic level.. then I cut all sugars out and it took several months but my symptoms did go away.
 

AceFace

Well-Known Member
#73
I have had diabetes from 2000, I'm on Tresiba and Humalog insulin, I am really struggling, I have mental health issues with it, I just carnt take the insulin 15 mins before I am worried the for some reason I won't get to eat, and when I'm low not that low my Freestyle Libre Alarm is set to 5.8, I panic, I know its irrational, but it's the way I feel
 

Gonz

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#74
I have had diabetes from 2000, I'm on Tresiba and Humalog insulin, I am really struggling, I have mental health issues with it, I just carnt take the insulin 15 mins before I am worried the for some reason I won't get to eat, and when I'm low not that low my Freestyle Libre Alarm is set to 5.8, I panic, I know its irrational, but it's the way I feel
Man, one time I took my insulin before I started cooking, got distracted, and let my blood sugar get really low before I ate. Now I won’t do it until the food is right in front of me.

Gotta say diabetes and anxiety are not the best mix. I mean, it’s hard to convince yourself you can relax and don’t need to worry when you have a condition that will kill you if you don’t constantly monitor it.
 

KM76710

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#75
I have had diabetes from 2000, I'm on Tresiba and Humalog insulin, I am really struggling, I have mental health issues with it, I just carnt take the insulin 15 mins before I am worried the for some reason I won't get to eat, and when I'm low not that low my Freestyle Libre Alarm is set to 5.8, I panic, I know its irrational, but it's the way I feel
Nothing irrational in the least as concerns diabetes. I have been for a quite a long time. I am on Metformin and diabetes is one of the few handful of things I get concerned or have any fear of. I wish you, others and all of us with the disease the best in getting things controlled and steady. The complications of DM can be quite scary.
 

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