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Does everyone have to live?

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Fernando!

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Does everyone have to serve this world? It may not be everyone's goal or desire. Death is sometimes the choice. Maybe happiness is death. Why someone who wants to die is treated like a diseased person?
 

Dawn

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Hi Fernando! I am so sorry that no one got back to u sooner. I'm sorry too that u are feeling so bad. l sure understand that. We all do here.

I don't know why ppl are like that. I guess they don't know how to act around us because they can't relate at all to suicidal feelings. And they probably don't know what to say. Sucks that ppl are that way.

Unfortunately, a lot of ppl seem to leave in the bad times. I have never been like that so I don't get it. I draw nearer to those in need. U sure do find out real quick who your real friends are, that is for sure.

But that is what is so great about this place. U will never be treated like that here. Everybody here is so kind and understanding. I hope u come back and stick around. Feel free to talk to me anytime. Take care
 

Fernando!

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Hi Fernando! I am so sorry that no one got back to u sooner. I'm sorry too that u are feeling so bad. l sure understand that. We all do here.

I don't know why ppl are like that. I guess they don't know how to act around us because they can't relate at all to suicidal feelings. And they probably don't know what to say. Sucks that ppl are that way.

Unfortunately, a lot of ppl seem to leave in the bad times. I have never been like that so I don't get it. I draw nearer to those in need. U sure do find out real quick who your real friends are, that is for sure.

But that is what is so great about this place. U will never be treated like that here. Everybody here is so kind and understanding. I hope u come back and stick around. Feel free to talk to me anytime. Take care
Hello Dawning. Thank you for your interest. Firstly, I dont want you to feel bad. Sadness is not the solution and does not provide any benefit. I try to look positive always but in life problems always come from the place you do not know.

I've opened a topic before about my problem.

https://www.suicideforum.com/community/threads/i-cant-find-meaning-to-live.138821/

Unfortunately, I have existential problems. Nothing about life is attracting me.I'm not a very talkative person. I do not like sharing my problems with everyone. I have to admit that I love loneliness.

I see that my problem is not periodic. I have read a book about logotherapy.I like to read about psychology. But I don't want to fight anymore. I see death as an option. Death can be a better solution for a few people. I haven't cried for a long time. I think i am a person who is entertaining around. I have to specify them.
 

Dawn

Well-Known Member
#4
Hi Fernando! I understand what u are saying because my problems are not temporary either and I get tired of it all too. They say suicide is a permanent solution to temporary problems, but like I said sometimes it is not temporary at all. They also say that no one is alone. That is BS too because some ppl like me are. I am so sorry u are feeling that it is your only solution and wish I could help u in some way. I would like to read your link so I will go do that now. Thanks for talking with me and I am here anytime
 

Dawn

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Thank u for sharing that with me Fernando! I am so glad that u have your Mom. I know it would be tragic if she lost u. And like u said in the other post - that tomorrow could change. I can see that u are a very smart and logical person.

I know that u said u don't want to try meds again. I wish u would reconsider that. I know u said u tried one kind, but there are others that could possibly help u. Also,acupuncture and alternative therapies is worth a try.
 

Dawn

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Wish I could help u and concerned about u Fernando! I will keep u in my thoughts and prayers. Wish I could do more. Please take good care of u
 

BarryW

SF Supporter
#7
Hello Fernando,
Unfortunately, I have existential problems. Nothing about life is attracting me.
I feel this way often. I am slowly trying new things in hopes of finding something to live for. What have you tried new in the last year? Maybe there is something in life that could make you very happy which you haven't tried yet. Could be baseball, fly a rocketship to the moon, build a house with your bare hands..
 

Fernando!

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Hello Fernando,

I feel this way often. I am slowly trying new things in hopes of finding something to live for. What have you tried new in the last year? Maybe there is something in life that could make you very happy which you haven't tried yet. Could be baseball, fly a rocketship to the moon, build a house with your bare hands..
There were different things I tried. I do not want to fight anymore. This is a preference.
 
#10
Hi Fernando,
I find your theory interesting, I too can't seem to find anything in life worth living for... And to say this to most people you just get judged, I have children so people automatically assume that you have to live for them, but is that really fair? To be forced to live a life you do not want anymore simply for the sake of others? I lost my partner, my soul mate, the love of my life, my everything just less than a week ago to suicide and I just can't see a way of living without him. I'm angry with him for leaving me after we promised we'd do everything together, if ever the day came were we had had enough we would die together. But we didn't. He left me. He didn't say goodbye, didn't tell me he loved me or even give me chance to tell him first. He was alone from me for a couple of hours but we were texting from different rooms in the house, 45 mins passed since his last text which was something mundane really and that was it, he was gone. :'( my heart, my world everything literally smashed into a million pieces when I saw he was gone. Life is simply a grey fog now, I have lived the last few days in a blur, my children are being cared for by family, am I a total shit mum? Cause I can't find it within myself to look after them or even go on living for them? I loved my partner more than anything and I simply cannot function without him and he knew this. I don't understand why he would think for one second that I would be OK without him? That our daughter would be OK without him? I don't even know if he intended to die like he did or if it was a tragic mistake. I just want to go with him, I'm so torn. On one hand I can simply do what he did and be with him again, torment over. Back in his arms. Or there is nothing on the other side just cease to exist but that would be better than having to live without him cause the thought of that I cannot bear, Christmas, then his birthday, no way. I'm not doing that. On the other hand I have my children, who probably need me on some level but he didn't think of them? Or he did but he thought they'd be OK. Why do I have to carry the burden of worrying about them after I'm gone? It's so unfair. I feel so trapped, I feel like I am being forced to live a life of torment because it is considered selfish and cruel to take ones own life. But surely it is my life to do as I wish with? Surely if I want to press the power off button I should have the right to? I'm sorry I have said all this, I was trying to say I understand you not having any desire to live. And wonder if that's how he felt, I think he was so brave to do it, not a coward, not selfish, he finally took control of something and decided he'd had enough.
 

Fernando!

Active Member
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Hi Fernando,
I find your theory interesting, I too can't seem to find anything in life worth living for... And to say this to most people you just get judged, I have children so people automatically assume that you have to live for them, but is that really fair? To be forced to live a life you do not want anymore simply for the sake of others? I lost my partner, my soul mate, the love of my life, my everything just less than a week ago to suicide and I just can't see a way of living without him. I'm angry with him for leaving me after we promised we'd do everything together, if ever the day came were we had had enough we would die together. But we didn't. He left me. He didn't say goodbye, didn't tell me he loved me or even give me chance to tell him first. He was alone from me for a couple of hours but we were texting from different rooms in the house, 45 mins passed since his last text which was something mundane really and that was it, he was gone. :'( my heart, my world everything literally smashed into a million pieces when I saw he was gone. Life is simply a grey fog now, I have lived the last few days in a blur, my children are being cared for by family, am I a total shit mum? Cause I can't find it within myself to look after them or even go on living for them? I loved my partner more than anything and I simply cannot function without him and he knew this. I don't understand why he would think for one second that I would be OK without him? That our daughter would be OK without him? I don't even know if he intended to die like he did or if it was a tragic mistake. I just want to go with him, I'm so torn. On one hand I can simply do what he did and be with him again, torment over. Back in his arms. Or there is nothing on the other side just cease to exist but that would be better than having to live without him cause the thought of that I cannot bear, Christmas, then his birthday, no way. I'm not doing that. On the other hand I have my children, who probably need me on some level but he didn't think of them? Or he did but he thought they'd be OK. Why do I have to carry the burden of worrying about them after I'm gone? It's so unfair. I feel so trapped, I feel like I am being forced to live a life of torment because it is considered selfish and cruel to take ones own life. But surely it is my life to do as I wish with? Surely if I want to press the power off button I should have the right to? I'm sorry I have said all this, I was trying to say I understand you not having any desire to live. And wonder if that's how he felt, I think he was so brave to do it, not a coward, not selfish, he finally took control of something and decided he'd had enough.
I'm really sorry for you and thank you for telling me your story. I have no doubt that he was loved you but he made the wrong decision in the crisis. It may not be possible to think logically in times of crisis but the fact that he made it wrong. You did not deserve it.. You and your children.. You are now in a traumatic period. Do not think too much, you need to relax. You may need to cry or get suffer but never make a wrong decision. You should never be alone. Please tell me how you feel always.
 

BarryW

SF Supporter
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There were different things I tried. I do not want to fight anymore. This is a preference.
Isn't the fact that you are here posting on this site evidence that part of you is still fighting? The energy to fight can leave us but you always have it in you to find the strength again. That's what I believe.
 
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