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I once met a religious guy, a little touched upstairs but he told me how he once fasted 40 days. I tried it myself and as much as I hate contradicting anyone I must say it was pretty effective at taking the weight off. I was overweight to start with but pretty thin after. I didn't stop drinking water, which is all I had for that time. For most of that time I stayed at a friend's who lived in the mountains. He understood things weren't going too well for me and never tried to stop me. I didn't know much about fasting then but he made a few calls and told me I should drink water if I was going to fast for any length of time.
Other advice he got was that fasting periods should be graduated, three days on, three days off, one week on, one week off, etc. I went on a three, seven and forty day cycle, a little accelerated but I didn't want to take forever about it. When I was fasting I did a few chores around his place, yard work and other light stuff. That was better than sitting around doing nothing all the time and kept my system circulating. The water really circulated my system's fluids and I drank as much as I liked. On my first three day cycle I tried fasting without water and that was tough. I remember in wilderness training we were told that a person could survive eating just snow for quite some time.
The toughest part for me about fasting these days is that it's so tempting to not fast or compromise and nibble away on something that's probably not too healthy to begin with. However I was recently given some help with that in the form of having my living expenses cut my disposable income in half. Since I'm a student and don't make much to begin with that cut into my food budget. I went to buy some food the other day and my credit card didn't go through so I'm going to use up some of this lard that's been sitting on my ass too long. That's why it was there to begin with, just stored up energy to be used when needed. I've been quite an energy saver and people are starting to notice me looking better and better as it goes away. Little do they know my secret is being too broke to even be able to get into a cheap movie. But this brings back memories of when I fasted for weeks on end and it feels like going to visit an old friend.
I still nibble a little: where I work people leave food laying around and I spend a lot of time there after everyone's gone just because of the work I do. Some of the larger employees tend to have things stashed away so I haven't been completely fasting but I can't let them notice much missing or they'll figure it out. I keep a 1-liter bottle of water with me at all times and there's a water cooler where I can refill it anytime. I live a couple of miles away and usually walk it once a day there and back, usually in the evening. I drive during the day. Anyhow, that's the story of why I'm currently fasting and I look better than I have in quite a while. To start a fasting cycle I seem to need a couple or three days to get used to not eating during which I feel uncomfortable physically. After that the body accepts who's boss and quits arguing with me.
My outlook on fasting is that all dieting is just a form of fasting to some degree. I think the human body is more capable of fasting outright than it is of dieting low-this or low-that because low-one-thing-or-another usually means there's an imbalanced intake that the body will eventually reject. I also feel that the body knows what nutrients to store up so that when fasting outright it has the proper nutrients in the fat cells and elsewhere to stay in balance. Diets never worked for me so I can't recommend any. Fasting has worked for me in the past and it's working for me now. I don't support anorexic tendencies but I don't include fasting as the exclusive territory of anorexics either.
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Other advice he got was that fasting periods should be graduated, three days on, three days off, one week on, one week off, etc. I went on a three, seven and forty day cycle, a little accelerated but I didn't want to take forever about it. When I was fasting I did a few chores around his place, yard work and other light stuff. That was better than sitting around doing nothing all the time and kept my system circulating. The water really circulated my system's fluids and I drank as much as I liked. On my first three day cycle I tried fasting without water and that was tough. I remember in wilderness training we were told that a person could survive eating just snow for quite some time.
The toughest part for me about fasting these days is that it's so tempting to not fast or compromise and nibble away on something that's probably not too healthy to begin with. However I was recently given some help with that in the form of having my living expenses cut my disposable income in half. Since I'm a student and don't make much to begin with that cut into my food budget. I went to buy some food the other day and my credit card didn't go through so I'm going to use up some of this lard that's been sitting on my ass too long. That's why it was there to begin with, just stored up energy to be used when needed. I've been quite an energy saver and people are starting to notice me looking better and better as it goes away. Little do they know my secret is being too broke to even be able to get into a cheap movie. But this brings back memories of when I fasted for weeks on end and it feels like going to visit an old friend.
I still nibble a little: where I work people leave food laying around and I spend a lot of time there after everyone's gone just because of the work I do. Some of the larger employees tend to have things stashed away so I haven't been completely fasting but I can't let them notice much missing or they'll figure it out. I keep a 1-liter bottle of water with me at all times and there's a water cooler where I can refill it anytime. I live a couple of miles away and usually walk it once a day there and back, usually in the evening. I drive during the day. Anyhow, that's the story of why I'm currently fasting and I look better than I have in quite a while. To start a fasting cycle I seem to need a couple or three days to get used to not eating during which I feel uncomfortable physically. After that the body accepts who's boss and quits arguing with me.
My outlook on fasting is that all dieting is just a form of fasting to some degree. I think the human body is more capable of fasting outright than it is of dieting low-this or low-that because low-one-thing-or-another usually means there's an imbalanced intake that the body will eventually reject. I also feel that the body knows what nutrients to store up so that when fasting outright it has the proper nutrients in the fat cells and elsewhere to stay in balance. Diets never worked for me so I can't recommend any. Fasting has worked for me in the past and it's working for me now. I don't support anorexic tendencies but I don't include fasting as the exclusive territory of anorexics either.
<mod edit:shygirl> Thanks.
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I'm not sure that this is good advice for this section. Surely we should be advising healthy methods of sustained weight loss, which needs to be attained by sensible eating and exercise. I am concerned that this is going to encourage people with eating disorders to use fasting as a way to lose weight quickly which any health professional would tell you, is not the way to do it.
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I'm in favor or healthy methods of sustained weight loss as attained by sensible eating and exercise. Fasting can help someone lose weight quickly or it can also help someone lose weight slowly. That choice is up to the individual. Anything can be taken to the extreme. Fasting in my opinion is in general a safer and more natural alternative to gastrectomy and liposuction and I wouldn't hesitate to tell that to a health professional. However, people with anorexia need to find help from people they trust and follow the advice they're given. Extreme behavior in any direction creates problems rather than solves them. If my previous post is thought to encourage such behavior I won't object to your removing it. Thank you.
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*Yes * So I have been in hospital * Not that anyone really seems to want to know * They thought I had meningitis but it was just a nasty virus type thing * I had antibiotics through a drip thing * I feel pretty weak still but at least I am out of there now * And the best part is that I lost 10lbs without even trying * So I am 108 lbs now * 20lbs more and I'll be at my goal weight *
take a trip to sudan in africa. then come back and complain about this...1 pound. we are not our bodies, we are spirits inside a body.
**BeautyIsThin** said:
*I gained one whole pound and a half * I'm such a fat ass bitch * I'm a failure * A fat, disgusting, blob of lard * fat thighs * fat stomach * fat arms * REPULSIVE *
I have to fast.
I have to fast.
**BeautyIsThin** said:
*Yes * So I have been in hospital * Not that anyone really seems to want to know * They thought I had meningitis but it was just a nasty virus type thing * I had antibiotics through a drip thing * I feel pretty weak still but at least I am out of there now * And the best part is that I lost 10lbs without even trying * So I am 108 lbs now * 20lbs more and I'll be at my goal weight *
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sudut said:
take a trip to sudan in africa. then come back and complain about this...1 pound. we are not our bodies, we are spirits inside a body.
MalcolmD * My goal weight is actually 90lbs at the moment but I just said 20more lbs because it is a round number *
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Sudut * Your comment doesn't help anyone, nor does it have a point to it * My body is my own * And I will do with it as I please * Don't preach to me about people starving in Africa * Will me not talking about gaining weight suddenly mean that they have enough to eat or solve all their problems? No * It won't *
MalcomD * My actual goal weight is 90lbs but I just said 20 more lbs because it is a round number *
MalcomD * My actual goal weight is 90lbs but I just said 20 more lbs because it is a round number *
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Hmmmm dont know whether to post on this or not.
But firstly Beaury im sorry that youve been in the hospital.i dont understand though why you assumed we wouldnt care about it!Many of us i dont think knw that [certainly i didnt] and if you want to say more we are here.
The other thing i want to say you may be upset by.i dont mean to upset you for i am not perfect myself.i am far from it.And i have my own ways of punishing and hurting myself and i am learning very fast how my behaviour effects other people.But when i read through your thread i noticed you said part of the reason for your current fast was upsetting people on here so you had to do so many days for each of them.
i can understand that.But if i was one of those people youd upset and i read your thread i think that would make me feel extremely horrible,guilty,upset.ARe you sure they would want you to be doing this?How would you liek them to feel if they saw this?i dont ask that as an attack.But im genuinely interested in how you feel towards these people now.
i may not be able to relate to all of it and i'll certainly never know whats its like to be you or what your going through right now but i can hear your pain.
TKake care
kath
Hmmmm dont know whether to post on this or not.
But firstly Beaury im sorry that youve been in the hospital.i dont understand though why you assumed we wouldnt care about it!Many of us i dont think knw that [certainly i didnt] and if you want to say more we are here.
The other thing i want to say you may be upset by.i dont mean to upset you for i am not perfect myself.i am far from it.And i have my own ways of punishing and hurting myself and i am learning very fast how my behaviour effects other people.But when i read through your thread i noticed you said part of the reason for your current fast was upsetting people on here so you had to do so many days for each of them.
i can understand that.But if i was one of those people youd upset and i read your thread i think that would make me feel extremely horrible,guilty,upset.ARe you sure they would want you to be doing this?How would you liek them to feel if they saw this?i dont ask that as an attack.But im genuinely interested in how you feel towards these people now.
i may not be able to relate to all of it and i'll certainly never know whats its like to be you or what your going through right now but i can hear your pain.
TKake care
kath
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Thankyou for the post Kath * Fasting is the only way I know how to punish myself * I don't know what else to do * If I upset someone I feel bad * And when I feel bad I feel like I need to repent or something * I do that by fasting * If there was something else they wanted me to do instead maybe I would try * I never purposely try to upset people * I'm not an intentionally mean person * I just say things bluntly and maybe I don't have much tact *
Having a little bit of meat to your body is nothing to go overboard about, but you have an ED so that makes it different. I actually like girls with meat, rather than ones that when the bend back their ribs stick out, which I find absolutely repulsive. But, you should do whatever feels right for you at the moment. Also, beauty is not thin; beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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