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As someone who has not been on this forum for very long and hasn’t posted in quite a while I was hesitant to comment… I dislike conflict… However, I have seen Far worse things written on the forums here that have not been addressed in the way that @Dalida has been called out for… Several people said How much they hate the Human Race…
Personally I don’t hate humans, but I do Prefer Animals!

Perhaps bringing religion into it was what made it a step too far, I don’t know…Although I have read Many posts which are very Anti religion and have received less criticism…

It seems to me that there are Many issues that are deemed sensitive and that are handled with extreme care… I wonder though if the Non Vegans out there realise how triggering and hurtful much of what they post could be? And to be honest, there are many things posted that I am shocked, disgusted, angry and hurt by…
Perhaps I am just an over sensitive Vegan, but until now even though I was upset I didn’t say anything…

Of course I avoid All of the threads regarding food - I know that I wouldn’t want to read them, but often the eating of Animals is mentioned in other posts…

So many people say that they Love animals… But from my perspective they don’t… They only Love certain animals… What makes a cat more special than a cow? Why is a dog better than a pig? It has been shown that pigs are actually smarter than dogs!

Enough said for now…
When we see posts that are openly criticizing a particular religion in this way - and even in this post, declaring that it's followers don't think twice about taking lives, this has to be called out as it is not acceptable on a support forum that has members from these religions.

Sometimes posts will slip through the net as they are not seen or reported but we will always act when we see them.
 

Angie

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Kind of anxious about my mental health care situation. Theyre closing down the clinic where I go and I have to call to figure out if and where I can get a new place now. It was supposed to have happened already but didn't.

I have one refill left so I really hope this works out otherwise I have to go to the ER.
The clinic should refer you, its their responsibility. Be the squeaky wheel.

Good luck!
 
As someone who has not been on this forum for very long and hasn’t posted in quite a while I was hesitant to comment… I dislike conflict… However, I have seen Far worse things written on the forums here that have not been addressed in the way that @Dalida has been called out for… Several people said How much they hate the Human Race…
Personally I don’t hate humans, but I do Prefer Animals!

Perhaps bringing religion into it was what made it a step too far, I don’t know…Although I have read Many posts which are very Anti religion and have received less criticism…

It seems to me that there are Many issues that are deemed sensitive and that are handled with extreme care… I wonder though if the Non Vegans out there realise how triggering and hurtful much of what they post could be? And to be honest, there are many things posted that I am shocked, disgusted, angry and hurt by…
Perhaps I am just an over sensitive Vegan, but until now even though I was upset I didn’t say anything…

Of course I avoid All of the threads regarding food - I know that I wouldn’t want to read them, but often the eating of Animals is mentioned in other posts…

So many people say that they Love animals… But from my perspective they don’t… They only Love certain animals… What makes a cat more special than a cow? Why is a dog better than a pig? It has been shown that pigs are actually smarter than dogs!

Enough said for now…

I do see both sides of this issue, but I also believe the term "carrion eaters" is name calling. A carrion eater refers to eating rotten flesh. You can disagree with someone's choices without exaggerating and name calling.

You say people who eat meat or animal products can't love animals... however that simply isn't true. Yes, you can eat a cow and still love your dog. The human mind can compartmentalize very well!!! And here's the most important thing - most of us grow up eating meat or animal products, often 3 times a day! Our diet is based around these products and some cultures (such as Inuit) had to eat a heavily meat-based diet due to geographic factors. People in many cultures now are choosing to eat less meat, but it takes time to change one's eating habits.

I have taken university-level Biology and have seen PhDs debate about whether it's necessary or desirable for humans to eat any amount of meat, animal by-products or animal products. Of course we know humans CAN survive on a vegan diet, although usually supplements or careful planning must be taken to avoid nutritional deficiencies. But the very fact that supplementation is necessary on a vegan diet means that it isn't "natural" to some people.

I currently eat free-range poultry and dairy a few times a week for the health reasons I specified, although I was vegetarian and 90% vegan for 12 years. My husband never stopped eating meat - because his doctor advised him not to - he is very thin and requires a high-protein diet due to a muscular condition. He does eat things like tofu though, and has reduced his consumption of meat quite a bit.

My point here is this is a complex issue and there are many factors. It's reasonable to state your case even passionately, but not reasonable to attack others. It's not okay to name call or suggest that due to your religion you have no qualms about killing.

As for the religious question, I can assure you I've gotten in trouble myself quite a few times for expressing views on that topic that were considered too extreme for this forum - that's the moderators' prerogative. Most of us here have mental health issues on this forum and can get triggered into saying things that in turn trigger others. It's hard not to have strong views on the subject when you've been through things like abuse by religious leaders, but I do understand that some people find their religion to be a comfort and it's not my right to challenge that on a mental health forum. Things like religion and eating habits are highly personal and tied to emotion for all involved. It may be reasonable to challenge our beliefs but not necessarily on a forum dedicated to suicide prevention.
 
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