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How Are You Feeling Right Now?

I get that too. My therapist calls it a “dorsal brake,” which is a reference to the polyvagal theory of emotional regulation. The theory is that, when we get too anxious or otherwise “activated” as in fight /flight response, our nervous system will inject nameless shame as a kind of emergency brake.

This is because shame is readily accessible to the vagal nerve (or something - I am going off of recall here) and it does calm the system despite still being unpleasant. The way a human experiencing it, though, is like, “I feel so bad that I must have f**ked something up pretty badly!”

The way that I have been able to mitigate this is to recognize the shame and that it is trying to be protective. I need to examine the context, too, because maybe it’s healthy shame. This being said, if the shame is about being a horrible person, or the worst <fill in the blank >, then it’s probably not something I did. I can talk back to it by remembering that really bad, horrible people do not care in the slightest whether they are horrible or not, and if I am feeling punchy, I can always think of some worse people out there. I mean, I am not a saint, but I’m not hurting people on purpose for my own entertainment and advantage, which has to put me ahead of quite a few folks out there right away. Hope that helps, but if not, I’m sorry. I am in some sort of pseudo hypomanic phase right now and the words are like pressure inside my skull.
I just googled "dorsal brake" and that definitely sounds like what I'm experiencing, so thank you for sharing that! I definitely have issues with my vagus nerve so that makes sense for me. Your suggestion for how to get out of the shame spiral--reasoning that truly awful people don't care that they're awful--is helpful! Thankfully my shame spiral has been less of an issue today, so hopefully tomorrow is similar.
 

AvidFan

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I’m really glad to hear that. You deserve it! It helps me when other people are feeling better.
Thanks, I sometimes don't know whether to post when I'm feeling good, when others are struggling, as it could seem insensitive. But anyone who is aware of my history on here knows it's not always been good. I had a pretty good day yesterday. Glad to hear that helps you. It's nice when you post that you're doing well, I wish you could do well more often!
 

Angie

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I totally get it. It makes a person wonder if it is worth fighting to keep going. Did you make out to the hospital yet?
Made it to the hospital and got admitted. Some sort of intestinal infection. Might require surgery. I'll know more after the doctor makes rounds this am.

Additionally my car decided to have a fit on the way to the hospital. Fml
 

LumberJack

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I feel painfully anxious but I know it will pass. That said, when I was still working with my panic attacks, I had some benzo PRN just in case. I don't have that anymore, but boy would it come in handy right about now. I have discussed with my prescriber and he's reluctant to have me on another controlled substance when I already have adderall and ketamine. Makes sense to me, I mean I probably shouldn't be on a stimulant if I'm that anxious - except for the fact that I have a paradoxical response to adderall, so there is that. Anyway, I have my non-medication tools to work with. It's just that I don't like "w-o-r-k" at all
 

Gonz

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I don’t know how to convey that I’m not doing well when A. it’s obvious that I shouldn’t be doing well and B. people paradoxically expect (almost need) me to feel better about life the worse mine gets.

My life sucks and I’m unhappy about it, I guess. If people actually spent time with me they’d quickly realize that the whole “calm“ “mindful” “accepting” thing is an act to hide the fact that I’m white-knuckling my way through a nervous breakdown.

I wonder if the problem is that I’m too unwilling talk openly, or that the people I’d be okay doing that with are not here.
 

Windhover

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I have never heard of what I have been feeling. Can missing a place make someone lose their sanity. It's like left myself when I came back here. My mind or soul if there is such a thing, is still over there, sitting on my favourite spot overlooking ------ beach. Feels like I'm in nowhere-land, waiting for the courage to show up so I can collect myself and go look for an affordable place to live. I can't go back to the house as he told me he had the locks changed, so my house-key wouldn't work. I need the ocean. I need to be right there, either next to it or within a walkable distance. It's the only place I've ever belonged. I used to be able to pull the sound and scents of wind, water, trees, sand, seaweed etc., from my memory but it's getting harder to do and I'm scared.
 

Gonz

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I have never heard of what I have been feeling. Can missing a place make someone lose their sanity. It's like left myself when I came back here. My mind or soul if there is such a thing, is still over there, sitting on my favourite spot overlooking ------ beach. Feels like I'm in nowhere-land, waiting for the courage to show up so I can collect myself and go look for an affordable place to live. I can't go back to the house as he told me he had the locks changed, so my house-key wouldn't work. I need the ocean. I need to be right there, either next to it or within a walkable distance. It's the only place I've ever belonged. I used to be able to pull the sound and scents of wind, water, trees, sand, seaweed etc., from my memory but it's getting harder to do and I'm scared.
You say you’ve never heard of it, but I’ve heard the sentiment before. My mother and I grew up in the same area right near the ocean and both of us have said we couldn’t live somewhere that wasn’t right on the coast.

The farthest I’ve ever lived, in college, was less than an hour to the ocean and I still felt hemmed in and restless. It took awhile to realize and put into words what was wrong, at least you can already do so.

It’s hard, you don’t feel fully yourself in a place you don’t belong, and the ocean gets into your head in a way that being near it becomes a core part of your identity.
 

LumberJack

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I don’t know how to convey that I’m not doing well when A. it’s obvious that I shouldn’t be doing well and B. people paradoxically expect (almost need) me to feel better about life the worse mine gets.

My life sucks and I’m unhappy about it, I guess. If people actually spent time with me they’d quickly realize that the whole “calm“ “mindful” “accepting” thing is an act to hide the fact that I’m white-knuckling my way through a nervous breakdown.

I wonder if the problem is that I’m too unwilling talk openly, or that the people I’d be okay doing that with are not here.
I think I can relate. With the consideration raised in your last line, I thought yup, that's me... except it's a little of both in my case. I do have friends who I can answer honestly when they ask me how I am, even if the answer is "I'm drowning in existential despair and everything seems like a black hole that, instead of trapping light, just traps everything good in the universe so that nothing will ever be okay again!" My fear is that I'm leaning on the few friends like that a little too much. I'm not like dumping all my complaints and problems on them, but if I'm in trouble, I say I'm in trouble, which I worry about being a weight that I'm laying on their shoulders.

And, I miss the best person who ever traversed the stage of my life. If he were still with me, we'd probably have at least mitigated this together before getting to this point.

It’s hard, you don’t feel fully yourself in a place you don’t belong, and the ocean gets into your head in a way that being near it becomes a core part of your identity.
I'm like that but with the Rocky Mountains.
 

LumberJack

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I have never heard of what I have been feeling. Can missing a place make someone lose their sanity. It's like left myself when I came back here. My mind or soul if there is such a thing, is still over there, sitting on my favourite spot overlooking ------ beach.
I'm almost positive there is a word for that feeling. I'll have to put it on the back burner of my mind and see if anything pops up. So, just curious if you'd be okay with any beach (possible the Pacific coast in your region)? Or is it that specific spot in NZ?
 

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