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Is there a correlation between violent video games and aggression?
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By "difficult backgrounds", i was kinda thinking more like large amounts of schoolyard bullying or complicated home lives, rather than "Isis killing fields"...
...Yes, hence me saying "or have a predisposition towards violent or aggressive tendencies".
The inference is sort of evident as me saying these people are more naturally violent sans any external factors.
...Yes, hence me saying "or have a predisposition towards violent or aggressive tendencies".
The inference is sort of evident as me saying these people are more naturally violent sans any external factors.
^ lol ok Freud I guess I should have said the Menendez brothers, I wonder if they had mortal kombat. Complicated homelife is not how I interpreted complicated background but we’ve had different upbringing I can tell by this defensively toned snapback response. Marylin Manson music causes columbine, studious show, (rolls eyes)
I mean, i was just clarifying things you seem to have misconstrued about my original post because i don't like leaving that stuff on the table. I've had way too many people attack me based on things i never said or did throughout my life, so i prefer to clarify whenever that happens. And the Hannibal Lecter comment was just because it was a strange argument to me. When you start going for the personal attack like this though, that reads as pretty defensive, just saying. 
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Ha! Knew a guy who conducted studies that were published in scholarly journals to test just this very thing! 
can’t seem to recall his conclusions, or outcomes... but I know - despite what you might presume, by looking at him, and how he thought, taught, acted & behaved—I believe he was coming down on the side of “they do have some impact to some people some of the time...” (however I am horrifically paraphrasing here, and that’s putting it mildly..) he was a massive q.t. fan (Tarantino); would routinely blast beats like wu tang clan to intro duce lectures, and talked like he was street, or from the hood — dressed like it in some respects too. But he probably more accurately would blen d or be a better fit internally, inside all of that, at home in the set of the writers for Big Bang theory.. of he even had a very hip / hop rap nickname for him self (not so different fro m “p diddy,” at the time!) ha.. what a character — smart, funny. Highly intelligent (or extremely intellectual, you get the dealio...) I remember him telling us , of a study on partying where they’d analayze the behaviors of ... ah , well - heck never mind : hate to damage any delicate sensibilities that might exist! this was a rather raucous crowd (or class room full of students, whom, you had to to kill to get into one of his classes the registrations were so backlogged on the waiting lists! ;D
can’t seem to recall his conclusions, or outcomes... but I know - despite what you might presume, by looking at him, and how he thought, taught, acted & behaved—I believe he was coming down on the side of “they do have some impact to some people some of the time...” (however I am horrifically paraphrasing here, and that’s putting it mildly..) he was a massive q.t. fan (Tarantino); would routinely blast beats like wu tang clan to intro duce lectures, and talked like he was street, or from the hood — dressed like it in some respects too. But he probably more accurately would blen d or be a better fit internally, inside all of that, at home in the set of the writers for Big Bang theory.. of he even had a very hip / hop rap nickname for him self (not so different fro m “p diddy,” at the time!) ha.. what a character — smart, funny. Highly intelligent (or extremely intellectual, you get the dealio...) I remember him telling us , of a study on partying where they’d analayze the behaviors of ... ah , well - heck never mind : hate to damage any delicate sensibilities that might exist! this was a rather raucous crowd (or class room full of students, whom, you had to to kill to get into one of his classes the registrations were so backlogged on the waiting lists! ;D
I brought that up not to imply that autistic people are more likely to become aggressive from video games alone, but more so from their familial structure (that's a word, right, "familial"? Lol. Because I need different phrasing for my paper than simply "family dynamic" :P), other mental health diagnoses, difficulty forming healthy emotional attachments and relationships, the tendency to escape into video games to avoid real life situations, and becoming (for lack of a better word) obsessed with video games to the point that they become their whole life.
Although, (and this is just one instance that I'm sure had numerous causal factors) but my husband's brother has Asperger's. He absolutely loves video games, has an enormous collection of them, and through a lot of practice and determination, he's become damn good at basically all of them. Well, one time, when his (my husband's) addiction was at its worst, he was desperate, and stole a couple of his brother's video game systems and games to trade into a game store for cash. And when he found out, oh boy...my husband certainly didn't expect that reaction. He came flying down the stairs at him, wooden bat in hand, ready to beat the everliving shit out of him. And this is a guy who has never before exhibited any kind of violent or aggressive behavior in his life. But that really pissed him off. Considering he's actually twice the size of my husband, although younger by a few years, he was scared for his fucking life. From then on, he learned not to fuck with his brother's video games, lol.
Although, (and this is just one instance that I'm sure had numerous causal factors) but my husband's brother has Asperger's. He absolutely loves video games, has an enormous collection of them, and through a lot of practice and determination, he's become damn good at basically all of them. Well, one time, when his (my husband's) addiction was at its worst, he was desperate, and stole a couple of his brother's video game systems and games to trade into a game store for cash. And when he found out, oh boy...my husband certainly didn't expect that reaction. He came flying down the stairs at him, wooden bat in hand, ready to beat the everliving shit out of him. And this is a guy who has never before exhibited any kind of violent or aggressive behavior in his life. But that really pissed him off. Considering he's actually twice the size of my husband, although younger by a few years, he was scared for his fucking life. From then on, he learned not to fuck with his brother's video games, lol.
Thanks, Ash. @Cynic Goat you're fine, don't worry about it. You were kind of put on the defensive there. No issues.
By the way, I kept procrastinating writing my paper, but your guys' discussions motivated me to at least get the introduction done today, lol. So thank you for that. You're all awesome. I'm hoping to finish it I'm the next couple of days.
I don't know what it is with my energy and motivation levels as of late, but it's been difficult to focus for long periods of time on things ("long" being, like, over a half hour, lol). So I'm trying to get it done a little bit at a time.
I don't know what it is with my energy and motivation levels as of late, but it's been difficult to focus for long periods of time on things ("long" being, like, over a half hour, lol). So I'm trying to get it done a little bit at a time.
Oh, don't worry, i in no way got the impression that you were the kind of person who would suggest something like that, i was more just commenting on how this generally seems to get brought up a lot in this discussion, and there are some people who seem to miss the fact that this isn't a point-A to point-B association. Thankfully professional circles tend to be comprised of people like yourself who recognise that it's not really as straightforward as that. I definitely agree that ultimately it does play a part in it, but as you say, it comes more down to extra factors the ASD introduces like ostracisation, strained family relationships, and the high rate of mental health comorbidity.
And yeah, i can actually really relate to your brother-in-law here. I'm not a generally violent person myself any more, but if anyone ever damaged/stole any of my video gaming devices/equipment, i'd likely turn pretty violent pretty fast.
I can understand that difficulty, and i really do wish you the best in working your way though your paper. I agree that one bit at a time is probably the best way to go for now.
And yeah, i can actually really relate to your brother-in-law here. I'm not a generally violent person myself any more, but if anyone ever damaged/stole any of my video gaming devices/equipment, i'd likely turn pretty violent pretty fast.
I can understand that difficulty, and i really do wish you the best in working your way though your paper. I agree that one bit at a time is probably the best way to go for now.
I don't believe the connection is how many try to make it as much as how violent humans in general often are. Most societies you get taught things are not acceptable to get along, but considering how that there has never been any real time in history without wars, crime, violence, doing anything to get what you want. Like others said how raised is much more important than any item or inanimate object.
Yeah, I mentioned in my paper that humans gave meaning to the concept of violence, just like love, war, death, etc. Without giving any meaning to them, these concepts would simply exist, but hold no significance. Therefore, we learn violence from other humans, not video games. There wouldn't even be such a thing as violent video games if we never gave any meaning to violence as a concept and learned this concept from previous generations.
Also, there's the fact that we, by nature, are aggressive, and we evolved that way for a reason -- it's helped out species survive (like you said, by getting us what we want). The issue is when people take it to a whole new level and start wars or hurt others for no reason. But neither video games nor aggression itself is the problem.
I finally finished this fucking paper and submitted it. My god, that was a huge pain in the ass to write - mostly the citations and having to quote articles instead of just being able to simply write what I know about the topic. If I could have done the latter, it would have been finished days ago.
Also, there's the fact that we, by nature, are aggressive, and we evolved that way for a reason -- it's helped out species survive (like you said, by getting us what we want). The issue is when people take it to a whole new level and start wars or hurt others for no reason. But neither video games nor aggression itself is the problem.
I finally finished this fucking paper and submitted it. My god, that was a huge pain in the ass to write - mostly the citations and having to quote articles instead of just being able to simply write what I know about the topic. If I could have done the latter, it would have been finished days ago.
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