KPop Thread

[Shelly]

There's always that one person who screws it up like Dahee from Glam.

add that leader of AOA, now i know why Jessi didnt like her at all.
(it’s awful for me to say this but ever since their debut i never liked her, not hated her, just didnt really gravitated towards her...
I felt bad for her weight lost thinking it was pressure to limelight and ‘bullying that she looked like samuel l jackson’ but i guess being a bully did all of that damage to herself.)

It wasn’t just to get people to pay attention to the show, jessi was just being real. From unpretty rapstar i already noticed something was off with her. She is now she-who-shall-not-be-named... ugh and they gave park bom a hard time so unfair...

 

[MisterBGone]

each kpop artist/group are signed to different agencies (unless they share the same), the agency mostly provide them whatever their talents need, including a dance/practice studio where they train and as well record a dance practice/version of their hit songs so their fans can learn the choreography.

Oh hey! That’s something I never could have guessed in a million years... so, thank you for that! So nice of you... very, incredibly kind—

 

[MisterBGone]

if they didnt happen on the same time frame as Kpop, i would say to me personally that before there 's kpop, there was Jpop, well there IS still Jpop it's just that most artists there are more exclusive to Japan, they are only 100% accessible if you are in their country, you dont really see them being promoted on youtube or anywhere outside Japan - to me that is their major flaw.

oh, anime theme songs i think are part of Jpop

Oh wow! I guess that’s a pretty major difference than, between the two of them. . . Isn’t it?? I wonder why that is! You’d think they’d want to, not necessarily “copy” but emulate that level of success. Or perhaps they wish to protect it, and keep it their own - kind of making it sacred in a way... who’s to say?? ;D

 

[Shelly]

Oh wow! I guess that’s a pretty major difference than, between the two of them. . . Isn’t it?? I wonder why that is! You’d think they’d want to, not necessarily “copy” but emulate that level of success. Or perhaps they wish to protect it, and keep it their own - kind of making it sacred in a way... who’s to say?? ;D

lol i forgot the term and you made laugh... it’s like finding this new indie ban that you love and wish them to be popular and successful but you also dont want to share them with any other crowd, it’s like your special treasure... like how people protected Paramore when they werent that popular...

hmm... i guess to some degree you almost hit the idea... ugh i just can remember the right term at the moment for it that perfectly describes it... but you’re almost there... but a part of me also thinks japan doesn’t care about popularity for Jpop outside their border.

South Korea really used it to their advantage to promote Kpop and Kdrama all over the world to boost their culture acknowledgement/tourism and got the rest of us wanting more.

 

[Shelly]

Oh and speaking of kpop singing in another language...
It’s not only Japanese, there’s also chinese versions as well, that all depends on how popular did a group or their song do well in another country, if the group becomes so popular and the agency sees a demand/market in that country then they are more likely to release another version of their song(s) in a different language... or debut in the country as well.

One of the hardest for kpop to break in to is the western pop music.
So it pays well to have artists/members grow up in a foreign country/be bilingual if not be of different race...
But as you know every country will have a bias and racial tendencies to those who are not s.koreans, be it SK itself or other countries as well... i saw what happened to Lisa of Blackpink and that was heartbreaking.

 

[Shelly]

I miss G.Na, after the issue she just disappeared, she doesnt even post in IG anymore or maybe she has a private account... 😑the injustice of women in the kpop world...

G.Na is one of those few artists in Kpop who can actually sing, none of that screechy cutesy child voice

 

[Shelly]

Never mind... Found G.Na’s new and verified account — i swear she has another one before... well it happens, i mean how many times did park bom made and deleted her account, even rihanna has done it right... oh well at least she’s fine and looks happy.

 

[MisterBGone]

lol i forgot the term and you made laugh... it’s like finding this new indie ban that you love and wish them to be popular and successful but you also dont want to share them with any other crowd, it’s like your special treasure... like how people protected Paramore when they werent that popular...

hmm... i guess to some degree you almost hit the idea... ugh i just can remember the right term at the moment for it that perfectly describes it... but you’re almost there... but a part of me also thinks japan doesn’t care about popularity for Jpop outside their border.

South Korea really used it to their advantage to promote Kpop and Kdrama all over the world to boost their culture acknowledgement/tourism and got the rest of us wanting more.

Yes, I think I forgot it too, “the term!” Which is in part why I was having such a struggle in trying to explain it!!! Ha- but! What you said makes perfect sense... And I totally get what you mean in the first part about the wanting to hold something special and unique close to your heart, so as to not have it get watered down or cherished by your Mother, Brother, next door neighbor, boss, & his or her Grandma, for goodness sake!! ;^) interesting the contrasting points of view on how to treat their cultures or nations talents of arts. But it makes some sense as to why things are the way they are. Maybe/& this is just a wild guess cash they had the opposite philosophies and view s on “exporting,” their goods, the results would be the same, or very similar, only the opposite - or with the shoe on the other foot. Assuming of course that the overall talent pool is collectively similar between the two nations. Of course, it’s always really hard to gauge what will and what will not “catch on” With an audience, perhaps even more so internationally, I don’t know..

 

[MisterBGone]

I miss G.Na, after the issue she just disappeared, she doesnt even post in IG anymore or maybe she has a private account... 😑the injustice of women in the kpop world...

G.Na is one of those few artists in Kpop who can actually sing, none of that screechy cutesy child voice

I like @Hyuna!! she’s funny & seems quite the character— don’t know who the others are! ;D

 

[MisterBGone]

Oh and speaking of kpop singing in another language...
It’s not only Japanese, there’s also chinese versions as well, that all depends on how popular did a group or their song do well in another country, if the group becomes so popular and the agency sees a demand/market in that country then they are more likely to release another version of their song(s) in a different language... or debut in the country as well.

One of the hardest for kpop to break in to is the western pop music.
So it pays well to have artists/members grow up in a foreign country/be bilingual if not be of different race...
But as you know every country will have a bias and racial tendencies to those who are not s.koreans, be it SK itself or other countries as well... i saw what happened to Lisa of Blackpink and that was heartbreaking.

Huh?? What happened to her?! That’s interesting and very fascinating though, that they actually do that! Talk about some primo promotion! I wonder if they’ve got to learn those new languages, just for the song, or songs in some cases? Hey girls, who knows Russian? Or German! well, we’ll start lessons tomorrow. Saturday morning five hours before the sun comes up! See you then— hahaha 😂

 

[MisterBGone]

Sometimes. . . (I wish I was Rihanna!!!) — I think I could do it... & really pull it off, convincingly!

 

[MisterBGone]

Of course... doubt she would approve (to her being me, in especially!)!

 

[Shelly]

Of course... doubt she would approve (to her being me, in especially!)!

lol, dont we all want to be rihanna, she’s a queen.

as to Lisa, i guess i would say she was berated by some fans who wanted to take a photo of Jennie but Lisa was in front of her, well at least to the fan’s view she was... they were being interviewed in a radio show i think if I remembered correctly, and some chat room i think got leaked where they talk badly of Lisa because of her nationality and body.

it’s awful and it’s a common thing with any foreign person working for a different country. As a tourist you maybe treated fairly at most but when you work for another country some people feel it’s unfair so they hate you like you just took someone else’s job even if you worked hard and deserved it.

hmmm... you seem to be a fan of Hyuna, maybe you already know her history as well and how she’s doing now... just in case, maybe you have already seen it but you should watch invincible youth season 1, she’s casted as one of the stars there (her stay was cut short because she had to promote her solo song or maybe it was for 4minute) where they do mundane things, you get to see stars be normal people and see more of their personality, (in invincible youth season 2 they have Suzy as one of the cast, it’s in KBS World Youtube account so you’ll find and watch the episodes with ease since those shows were from a long long time ago)

— but we all know how reality shows work anyways.

 

[Shelly]

Now i have something to watch, after watching some kdramas i’ll watch invincible youth... I remember watching those in such low resolution (when it was currently airing and i relied on some site to upload the latest episode) but i was contented to just happily see all of them, and now i can watch them clearly lol

 

[Shelly]

Is anyone watching any Kdramas? Should it be another thread? *bleh Which ones do you like or recommend? I'm pretty new to them but I love how cringy and awkard the romantic ones are - I've watched The King, Eternal Monarch, Crash Landing On You, The K2, Healer and I'm watching Stranger right now.

i hope it’s not too late to reply... these may not be necessarily light kdramas but to me they’re good kdramas:
Itaewon Class
Reply 1988
My mister
Ohlala couple
My Golden life (50 eps though 😐)
World of a married couple (warning you might feel anger and resentment towards the characters)

 

[Shelly]

Additional*
I’ve seen all of this and noticed netflix has them too so... maybe you should check them out too @BlueGreen

What’s wrong with secretary kim
Hotel de Luna
My love from the stars
Legend of the blue sea
Strong girl bong soo
Weight lifting fairy bok joo
Angel’s last mission
My ID is gangnam beauty
Birth of a beauty
I am not a robot
Love in the Moonlight
Secret Garden

 

[MisterBGone]

lol, dont we all want to be rihanna, she’s a queen.

as to Lisa, i guess i would say she was berated by some fans who wanted to take a photo of Jennie but Lisa was in front of her, well at least to the fan’s view she was... they were being interviewed in a radio show i think if I remembered correctly, and some chat room i think got leaked where they talk badly of Lisa because of her nationality and body.

it’s awful and it’s a common thing with any foreign person working for a different country. As a tourist you maybe treated fairly at most but when you work for another country some people feel it’s unfair so they hate you like you just took someone else’s job even if you worked hard and deserved it.

hmmm... you seem to be a fan of Hyuna, maybe you already know her history as well and how she’s doing now... just in case, maybe you have already seen it but you should watch invincible youth season 1, she’s casted as one of the stars there (her stay was cut short because she had to promote her solo song or maybe it was for 4minute) where they do mundane things, you get to see stars be normal people and see more of their personality, (in invincible youth season 2 they have Suzy as one of the cast, it’s in KBS World Youtube account so you’ll find and watch the episodes with ease since those shows were from a long long time ago)

— but we all know how reality shows work anyways.

Thanks 😊 I will have to check those out — & no! I know almost nothing about Hyuna, other than seeing her on a couple of game shows, like Men of A Mission/Knowing Bro’s. A couple of years ago (I know she’s been on since with her boyfriend, or some guy it looks like she’s close with - so I’m presuming it’s not say, her brother!)! And I like Suzy a lot, too... in fact saw her first some place else, don’t remember if it was a tv show or movie, but it was definitely an acting thing. And only later—much later came to find out she actually sang and danced (perhaps they all did?). And no, I didn’t know that about the foreigner experience. That is very sad; but also, believable at the same time, given how you explained it... just unfortunate really, it sounds so beyond “petty” from the outside, looking in— hopefully she didn’t take it to heart, too much, and suffer from it!

 

[MisterBGone]

Also, by-the-way, @JDot told me about how she was in Psy’s Gangnam Style video! ;^).. // pretty sure I spelled that all wrong! lol 😆 apparently there was another one where she sings, or something too, which reminds me... I’ve still got to track that one down! It’s back earlier — buried deeply by now, at this point; it’s moving so fast 💨 ; ) — where she told me so!

 

[MisterBGone]

@BlueGreen , I looked it up the other day - & its actually called, “signal!” :^) // through if memory serves, the tunnel one is good as well, and maybe have a similar storyline or feel to it! I can’t honestly remember, for sure... it was last year; and a lot of things have happened since then!

 

[MisterBGone]