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MisterBGone

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Where all my bad girls at?

I must say, and I hope this comes across as the compliment I’m intending it to be, that some of the beats of the kpop world — just in general — remind me in some small way of the golden age of ‘gangsta rap!’ In terms of their bombastic quality, and almost unapologetic over-the-top attitudes. . . (Maybe a few less curse words..;)) but I think the spirits may be somewhat similar with respect to their “freeing,” capabilities. Meaning they don’t self-censor themselves as much as maybe some other forms of music do (or so it would seem, or appear to me!) / but I am a noob & I don’t think my ears have reacted this way to a new form of music since that mentioned (in the 90’s), & only other time it ever happen Ed was in the 80’s with metal. Until now! ;D
 

Shelly

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But that is one thing that’s incredibly funny to me, is that how here in ‘The States,’ some can have the opinion that they’re for the most part, more or less, all the same (Asians—regardless of which country they come from...) // so, in other words, China and Japan would be considered rather similar, when in fact, as I’ve been told on more than one occasion, and from what I can gather—those two cultures are almost nothing alike at all... but in our defense, it’s the lack of exposure to people from there, or who were raised there, or had parents who grew up there - and then were willing to pass on that knowledge of their heritage (which is not always a given, nor is it that it will be well received by their children). . . So, you’re best bet would be to live in an area where there are a great many or number of these folks, like the coasts (East / West), or larger Cities, perhaps. But even then, they still make up such a small segment or percentage of the population that you almost might have to go out of your way / seek it out, in order to acquire the knowledge , in the absence of some close interpersonal relationships with some that can share some of the details from their respective counties. . :^)
okay i’m trying to digest what you said as well...
I guess it goes the same here that some people in my country thinks if you’re white - you’re probably an american, when in reality there are white people in various countries. It’s like when we think there’s no difference between the people of USA and Canada, there are similarities but not 100%, they’re different...
yeah cultures of china, japan and s.korea are different — I remember as a child when i wasnt familiar with any of their alphabet i can never tell which one is, but now i know and i find myself correcting people when they say “i can’t read this it’s in japanese” and i say “actually it’s korean, and it’s konglish so i can actually read and understand what is says”

i hope there is a land somewhere where different types of people live and get a long, no one’s a majority, a group of minorities living in harmony - like united nations

Awareness and upbringing is the key here.

I think this is how i interpret as you said — based from my own experience as well, you can be of asian descent but being raised in a different country, so you may not necessarily speak/know your mother language anymore nor feel any connection to the heritage of your parent(s) and vice versa for any other nationals out there born and or raised in a different country, half or not, specially when parents dont make an effort to instill it in their kids to appreciate and embrace the different cultures they have.
 

Shelly

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You’re right on the part where parents try to teach kids but the kids may not necessarily embrace the culture, you can’t force them if they dont want too.

But sometimes it’s amazing when a foreigner immerse him/herself in a different culture and does it so well, better than the actual natives lol.

lol even in my country specially when i was still studying i always get questioned about my nationality whether i’m a foreigner or half... they speak in tagalog and other dialects thinking i dont understand what they’re saying, and when i respond to them in out language their jaws drop, lol those were good times.
 

Shelly

SF Supporter
Never really in to boy bands but for me there’s always room for SuJu, Shinee, Big Bang, se7en, 2pm, 2am, Jay park, Jang Woo Hyuk, Shinhwa, Ukiss, Highlight (formerly Beast), Mblaq, Ze:A, Boyfriend

but for now here’s SuJu
 

Shelly

SF Supporter
I memorized their names from watching this video

gosh i wish they would still do that so when new groups perform i can get to easily know who’s who... lol it’s like first day of class whenever we’re required to wear nametags so the teacher can eventually memorize our names...
watching invincible youth helped a lot too and also my school friends always showing me who’s their bias/favorite in the group.
 

MisterBGone

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Never really in to boy bands but for me there’s always room for SuJu, Shinee, Big Bang, se7en, 2pm, 2am, Jay park, Jang Woo Hyuk, Shinhwa, Ukiss, Highlight (formerly Beast), Mblaq, Ze:A, Boyfriend

but for now here’s SuJu
I wish I could know so much about something I had no interest in. . ;^)!
 

MisterBGone

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You’re right on the part where parents try to teach kids but the kids may not necessarily embrace the culture, you can’t force them if they dont want too.

But sometimes it’s amazing when a foreigner immerse him/herself in a different culture and does it so well, better than the actual natives lol.

lol even in my country specially when i was still studying i always get questioned about my nationality whether i’m a foreigner or half... they speak in tagalog and other dialects thinking i dont understand what they’re saying, and when i respond to them in out language their jaws drop, lol those were good times.
Yes, they may have a fresh perspective on their land! ;) unbiased or influenced in a negative way, by past beliefs and etc. :)
That is interesting—your experience growing up. . . I suppose the skepticism comes with the territory of kids in general, and perhaps even more so depending on the territory or country. But even in adults, it like what John Lennon was singing about oh, so long ago, with “Imagine,” in the sense that ... (can we imagine a world and a place where our differences don’t divide, and separate us?)? I guess in some ways, and in some places, we’re still dreaming!! ;) I’ve noticed in the enterprise world in both japan and Korea I see a lot of those who were half one or the other—& then of course, another! :) And I think it’s really cool - but for example on a show like Terrace House - which has gone international due to its availability on Netflix - are there really that many (I forget the word, or term in Japanese, but I think it means, “half,”) of them there? Or are they just being disproportionately selected for the show. Which could be mere coincidence. To appease an audience outside of their home land. Or because for whatever reason they are the most intriguing candidates for that show at that given moment in time. I realize that this is a very, very isolated sample size and one that is indeed “hand picked for a specific reason,” (like chemistry, entertainment value, etc.!). Mostly I was just impressed because here that is not that uncommon, but I didn’t know that it was so there- :D
 

Shelly

SF Supporter
Yes, they may have a fresh perspective on their land! ;) unbiased or influenced in a negative way, by past beliefs and etc. :)
That is interesting—your experience growing up. . . I suppose the skepticism comes with the territory of kids in general, and perhaps even more so depending on the territory or country. But even in adults, it like what John Lennon was singing about oh, so long ago, with “Imagine,” in the sense that ... (can we imagine a world and a place where our differences don’t divide, and separate us?)? I guess in some ways, and in some places, we’re still dreaming!! ;) I’ve noticed in the enterprise world in both japan and Korea I see a lot of those who were half one or the other—& then of course, another! :) And I think it’s really cool - but for example on a show like Terrace House - which has gone international due to its availability on Netflix - are there really that many (I forget the word, or term in Japanese, but I think it means, “half,”) of them there? Or are they just being disproportionately selected for the show. Which could be mere coincidence. To appease an audience outside of their home land. Or because for whatever reason they are the most intriguing candidates for that show at that given moment in time. I realize that this is a very, very isolated sample size and one that is indeed “hand picked for a specific reason,” (like chemistry, entertainment value, etc.!). Mostly I was just impressed because here that is not that uncommon, but I didn’t know that it was so there- :D
hmmm... idk about reality tv shows, how much of it is really “real”...
we will never know...

Most reality shows out there these days were already preplanned who gets to play what role, i doubt the participants dont have any idea who the others are before the show starts and willing participants must sign a NDA contract before getting on the show...

Ever since Big brother, Survivor, ANTM, Mtv reality shows, coughs* kardashians coughs*, RPDR - to some degree they are all scripted so idk really anymore about reality tv shows.
 

MisterBGone

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okay i’m trying to digest what you said as well...
I guess it goes the same here that some people in my country thinks if you’re white - you’re probably an american, when in reality there are white people in various countries. It’s like when we think there’s no difference between the people of USA and Canada, there are similarities but not 100%, they’re different...
yeah cultures of china, japan and s.korea are different — I remember as a child when i wasnt familiar with any of their alphabet i can never tell which one is, but now i know and i find myself correcting people when they say “i can’t read this it’s in japanese” and i say “actually it’s korean, and it’s konglish so i can actually read and understand what is says”

i hope there is a land somewhere where different types of people live and get a long, no one’s a majority, a group of minorities living in harmony - like united nations

Awareness and upbringing is the key here.

I think this is how i interpret as you said — based from my own experience as well, you can be of asian descent but being raised in a different country, so you may not necessarily speak/know your mother language anymore nor feel any connection to the heritage of your parent(s) and vice versa for any other nationals out there born and or raised in a different country, half or not, specially when parents dont make an effort to instill it in their kids to appreciate and embrace the different cultures they have.
ha! I would venture a guess that there’s less difference in between America and Canada, than Japan and China! Maybe throw Russia into the mix for a bigger difference... probably the biggest difference, I would have to guess, is the difference in racial diversity. However, I will say that, depending on where you live in the U.S.A, your entire world can be 1000% Caucasian (and even if it isn’t; should you want it to be, it can - even if only in your own mind!). ;)

konglish!” That’s hilarious... first heard it used by an actress - dear god don’t tell me she was a pop star, too - no wait, I think I’ve seen her dance, or try to... & I don’t believe that’s in her background, at least in a professional sense: but min young park!!! She might be on my Mount Rushmore (top 4 all-time) of Koreans..;^)) though I’d really have to think about it—sure makes it that much easier when you don’t know some of their names!! :D yuna Kim... Anyways—>

ahhh 😌 I see! Here, let me see if I can help you understand my point of view, even though I’m not the best at explaining things. So, let’s say you were born and raised in THE STATES. And your parents were not! But they’ve raised you here - in America - as Americans - surrounded by Americans (meaning there’s a decent chance you only speak English) - and all your friends from school, church, the neighborhood, too - are Americans. Now, outside of you seeking out and searching for your own culture as a child growing up (where that is probably the last thing you’d wish to do as it’s what most separates you, and thus makes you different in the eyes of others growing up—& beyond), so ya de ya de ya da!!! ;D In conclusion there’s a better than halfway decent chance you won’t know Jack squat about whatever land you or your family were from originally. Now this can change later on in adulthood once some of that external and internal pressure subsided as you yourself decide to start doing some research or whatever. But there’s no guarantees on that taking place or ever happening, either quite frankly. It sort of really does just come down to an individual, personal choice &/or decision. :) hope that helps!
 

Shelly

SF Supporter
Yes, they may have a fresh perspective on their land! ;) unbiased or influenced in a negative way, by past beliefs and etc. :)
That is interesting—your experience growing up. . . I suppose the skepticism comes with the territory of kids in general, and perhaps even more so depending on the territory or country. But even in adults, it like what John Lennon was singing about oh, so long ago, with “Imagine,” in the sense that ... (can we imagine a world and a place where our differences don’t divide, and separate us?)? I guess in some ways, and in some places, we’re still dreaming!! ;) I’ve noticed in the enterprise world in both japan and Korea I see a lot of those who were half one or the other—& then of course, another! :) And I think it’s really cool - but for example on a show like Terrace House - which has gone international due to its availability on Netflix - are there really that many (I forget the word, or term in Japanese, but I think it means, “half,”) of them there? Or are they just being disproportionately selected for the show. Which could be mere coincidence. To appease an audience outside of their home land. Or because for whatever reason they are the most intriguing candidates for that show at that given moment in time. I realize that this is a very, very isolated sample size and one that is indeed “hand picked for a specific reason,” (like chemistry, entertainment value, etc.!). Mostly I was just impressed because here that is not that uncommon, but I didn’t know that it was so there- :D
i havent seen or heard the show but as i said, reality shows arent really that coincidental— everything that is happening was premeditated, yes they intentionally pick out participants (and have backups just in case someone gets out or backs out) according to what will spark the viewer’s attention... it’s all about the ratings...

and even if there was supposedly auditions for the cast, there’s a high possibility they will make a mock audition, plant the already-picked-cast within the crowd - or the crowd might as well be extras/hired actors as well.
 

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