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Loneliness is literally killing me...

painfully

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I have to say again that imo the knockbacks you are receiving are something to do with you going full disclosure too soon, especially if you are conveying your belief that a single person can fulfil ALL your needs for love, acceptance, attention etc etc . That's a VERY tall order and imo unrealistic as there are probably very few women who can truly meet that expectation fully and I think most would be daunted at the prospect. I know I would be! I wouldn't feel capable. It would require a level of devotion and saintliness few have.

I m being honest and it's just my opinion , but the free flag I would see is " possessiveness and all the trouble that could cause
You cannot hide deal breakers. Its dishonest and it doesnt make any sense cause the moment you show them it will break whatever relationship there is. And also, i need to feel accepted to feel comfortable, so if I try to hide I feel bad and not comfortable. I literally cannot lie.

All you are telling me are ways of lying and not showing my true self so I can be accepted...

All other guys are wanted, but not me... Those guys dont have my shitty traits... Im not wanted...
 

Inastorm

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You answered my question regarding what can you bring to a relationship really well. However, the qualities you bring i think are things that form further down the line or even those qualities a husband should bring. Very few women are going to be interested in those things from the start. I agree with Lara C and it needs to be fun at the beginning.

i also think starting off making friends in a better idea, rather than trying to jump straight into a relationship.
 

Lara_C

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All you are telling me are ways of lying and not showing my true self so I can be accepted...

All other guys are wanted, but not me... Those guys dont have my shitty traits... Im not wanted...
I'm telling you you don't know yourself because you are certainly not unloveable, you just think you are, and this makes you act in a way that confirms you even more in this negative belief. I know you think this is a completely preposterous idea, but you have reserves of strength and other good qualities you might not be fully aware of yet. People can and do change from their present way of being and grow towards wholeness or self acceptance and self love . Pain can lead to change if we stop clinging on to dysfunctional beliefs and actions. A good therapist or counsellor can make this process less painful because they can guide you from their own experience and knowledge
 

painfully

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I'm telling you you don't know yourself because you are certainly not unloveable
You dont know this and I have plenty of rejections to know this.

I just saw a profile of a girl in reddit that has an open relationship with a guy because she wants the guy but the guy doesnt want her and wants to fuck other girls... and i just want to cry... the lengths which girls will go to be with a guy...

also read another post about a girl being with a guy taht treats her bad and she is making all kinds of explanations and shit and giving all the second chances in the fucking world...

but me? NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL. IM FUCKING TRASH. immediately discarded. always
 

Lara_C

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You dont know this and I have plenty of rejections to know this.
I don't perceive you the way you perceive yourself and all those rejections were from people who you didn't give the chance to get to know your lighter, fun,, playful qualities before hitting them with the heavy , serious stuff . They saw a dark cloud with thunder and lightning flashes instead of sunshine, clear sky, fun and laughter, and ran away.
also read another post about a girl being with a guy taht treats her bad and she is making all kinds of explanations and shit and giving all the second chances in the fucking world
Do you message women like that? Do you want a relationship with someone like that? It sounds like very hard work , especially as you need so much yourself . She needs a therapist more than a partner atm imo. She lacks self respect , sadly.
I know that's what you think and shouting it just shows me how intensely you believe it, not that it's true
 

Lara_C

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I have also noticed that you express quite alot of anger towards women which I have to say would alarm women you hope to date. At this point I'm saying again that imo you would be helped better by taking a break from the dating game and talking to a counsellor or therapist before continuing
 

painfully

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Its not that I want someone like those I mentioned. But it hurts seeing how attached they get or how much are they willing to do to be with someone... But with me, nobody would do any effort at all... Just leave me at first bad thing...

You keep saying Im not unlovable while at the same time handling me a list of t hings that I should change... Basically you are telling me that Im unlovable UNLESS...
 

painfully

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I was with another prostitute today. Well, today, almost every 3 days for the past month, but I had to stop this rhythm cause I shouldnt spend this much money...

The chinese ones tend to call me handsome a lot, which is kinda nice.

The one today liked cuddles and affection a lot, like me. Rubbing the face cheek against his, a lot... But sadly, even though I like it... I dont feel it as deep as when I was with that girl 15 years ago...

I also got a blood test for STDs and everything came negative... I lowkey wished something incurable came positive... So I could finally give up and put an end to this suffering...

Nobody wants me...
 

painfully

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I made a post yesterday in reddit venting... A girl replied and I thought she was a bit interested... She liked to stay at home and is introverted. We talked for a bit today. Then she stopped talking to me a few hours ago. She made an unrelated post 40 min ago...I messaged her again and within 5 mins she deleted her account... Probably because she didnt know she could block me...

I just want to die...
 

painfully

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i saw this kind of post several times in the past. just saw it again...
"My BF <mod edit - method> and I Can’t Live Without Him!!!"

ofc nobody would ever miss me like that...
 
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Lara_C

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You keep saying Im not unlovable while at the same time handling me a list of t hings that I should change... Basically you are telling me that Im unlovable UNLESS...
I've said mainly it could be that the rejections you receive are due to you overwhelming the women you engage by disclosing too much too soon about your more difficult thoughts and feelings, and also that your expectations from a partner seem very unrealstic. I don't believe , as you do, that you can't change certain aspects of the way you think, feel , and act which !an !make you see! too challenging to the women you hope to form a relationship with
 

Lara_C

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I'm so tired of living.... I'm in so much pain... Nobody wants me.... I cannot live like this...
I really think at this point it would be better to take a break from trying to find a partner and turn your focus towards yourself for a while. I think you may have deep unresolved trauma which you need to heal from before resuming your search for a partner. Also, you may already know that rejection activates the same areas of the as brain physical injury , and the pain can be stopped or lessened by antidepressants.

You can find an online or in person therapist where you live through Psychology Today's list and I think it's worth looking into. I've also included a link about the many different types of therapy.

Therapist Directory

Therapy Types

What is Therapy?
 

painfully

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I really think at this point it would be better to take a break from trying to find a partner and turn your focus towards yourself for a while.
I heard that a lot and I have no fucking idea what that even means. It sounds like cheap words with no meaning.

Also you are telling that to a 36 year old guy, Im already too old to "wait".

And also, that concept that you can "heal on your own", which is one of the most untrue things in existence. "Oh, you are lonely and needy? Yes, what you need is to isolate yourself." How does this compare to the fact that I have been completely alone all my life? If isolating myself worked, I should be the healthiest being in existence.

And again, you just keep telling me to change to not be unlovable and Im tired that you keep denying it while saying it again and again. If you are going to say it at least own it. "oh no, you are not unlovable, you just have to change so that you can be loved" ITS THE SAME AS "you ARE unlovable and have to change"

Im not going to go to any therapist ever. I dont think anyone can help me.
 

Inastorm

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I dont want this to come across as sounding mean but i think you need a reality check.

i dont think anyone is dismissing the way you feel about yourself, but you are posting on a peer to peer support site, so people here will naturally want to make suggestions, as they care and may have experience in the subject matter your posting.

If you dont want suggestions and you are off loading thoughts, thats fine.

Any suggestions you are given, you seem to come back instantly with a no, you dont seem open to anything. That is also fine and up to you. While i agree with lara c suggestion about therapy, im not so sure you would be open to it.

I also wonder if when you have disclosure to women your feelings about yourself, and they may offer advice or opinion, you may disagree with their comments, which may be off putting.

I also wonder what your benchmark is for calculating rejection. If you speak to someone random on the internet for a couple of days and they close their reditt account, then is this rejection. Considering that a large number of people on the internet are scammers, doom scrollers, trolls, extremists, and a few good people, i think you might want to evaluate a few things.

I think the fundamental issue here is your lack of openness to any other thinking patterns than the ones your currently having, i have been exactly the same at times.

Sorry if this all sound a bit harsh, i just think you would benefit from thinking about your thought processes.
 

Lara_C

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And also, that concept that you can "heal on your own", which is one of the most untrue things in existence. "Oh, you are lonely and needy? Yes, what you need is to isolate yourself."
You are already isolated because your dating strategy isn't working, and as I said there are therapies that could help you uncover the roots of your problems and increase your chances of finding a partner by changing the way you think , feel, and act. However you are not open to this, which is your choice .
And again, you just keep telling me to change to not be unlovable and Im tired that you keep denying it while saying it again and again. If you are going to say it at least own it. "oh no, you are not unlovable, you just have to change so that you can be loved" ITS THE SAME AS "you ARE unlovable and have to change"
Its not the same thing. You believe you are unloveable and this makes you approach potential partners in a way which overwhelms them and confirms you in your negative beliefs about yourself but it's the way you think that's the problem, and I don't believe you are incapable of changing the way you think and therefore how you feel and act. That's what therapy is for but you've already decided it wouldn't help.

i'm not sure what you want from SF. If you just want to offload , perhaps you should just state that
 

painfully

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i cant take this shit... it hurts so much. it hurts

i was so stupid to join a chat and i didnt know what to say. there were only ppl acting bot like... so i just said that i was lonely and suffering... and some asshole messaged me saying that i should just kill myself and stop annoying people

i know hes a worthless human being, but still... it was like the last straw... i was already suffering a lot...

im so tired of people. i wish i didnt need anyone. why does my brain forces me to need someone. i wish i was an asshole like him.

i also talked to some girl in the past and aparently even when they write sad or depressed or very sad posts they get tons of messages of guys telling them tons of unwelcome sexual and rude stuff... i wish i was an asshole like them. they seem to be so happy just existing like a piece of shit

im so tired of everything...
 

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