What Is The New World Order?

[Boratz]

New World Order: Same shit , different odors.

 

[Aquariamethystea]

Im not mixing religion with my beliefs. i'm not religious. Just saying that the evidence shows that their may be some kind of leader that will be the head of the one world government. just like some religious prohecy says.

also bush and cheney were both great for the new world order agenda. They invaded the middle east so we can take over the few resisting countries. They stole their oil which gives them much more money and power. The passed the patriot act, which takes away our rights so we cant defend ourselves and we are easier to controll. they passed a law that lets phone companies record every thing you say on the internet/ phone. and they passed a bill in private called the security and prosperity partnership of north america, which can illiminate our borders and make us into one big country with canada and mexico and also allows them to create a new constitution. Has it been predetermined? I'm sure the top few candidates were and probably who wins also. The company diebold was caught red handed many times cheating with their electronic voting machines. That plus all the other shit. notice how we had bushes and clintons for the past 20 plus years and now we pretty much ahve people jsut like them, john mccains very similar to bush, and obama is very similar to clinton. imo

Bush and Cheney might have been good for a few international business ventures. However, they were bad for politics, in terms of bringing people toward NWO unity. 9-11 was suppose to do that,to an extent, but failed miserably, which is obvious by the increased number of activists/protestors. That is why I believe that Obama will win. Obama will bring people together toward NWO unity, by promoting false change. Ultimately, that false change at least will be noticeable until the "rapture", should it occur, which of course, I'll benefit from until I die or get "raptured".

 

[hammockmonkey]

I'll bet you your lifesavings that Obama is not the antichrist and the world will not end in 7 years.

 

[Aquariamethystea]

I'll bet you your lifesavings that Obama is not the antichrist and the world will not end in 7 years.

I never said that Obama is the antichrist. I believe that he ISN'T the antichrist. Although, I believe that someone is, that being whomever Obama gives power over to. It is just theory at this point about the rapture. However, it is rediculous, and quite possibly ignorant, to not believe that there will be a one world government. Ultimately, the global state will not be able to maintain itself, considering the nature of society, therefore, a global war is imminent, leading to total destruction.

 

[Eric]

Conspiracy theories like these are hilarious to be honest.

 

[hammockmonkey]

Okay, I'll change my bet, there will be no "Antichrist" at all, that leads to a global government and then to global war.

To some more serious questions: Why will there be one global government? Please try to give an example of how it could function, and why governments like the USA, Mexico, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia, Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, China, Russia, North Korea, Japan, India, Pakistan, Turkey, Iran,Saudi Arabia, Australia, would give up their sovereign authority? Be as specific as possible.

What does "considering the nature of society" mean? I'm just confused because this seems to be the engine of the disaster and I'd like some clarification of what that actually means.

 

[Esmeralda]

Okay, I'll change my bet, there will be no "Antichrist" at all, that leads to a global government and then to global war.

To some more serious questions: Why will there be one global government? Please try to give an example of how it could function, and why governments like the USA, Mexico, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia, Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, China, Russia, North Korea, Japan, India, Pakistan, Turkey, Iran,Saudi Arabia, Australia, would give up their sovereign authority? Be as specific as possible.

What does "considering the nature of society" mean? I'm just confused because this seems to be the engine of the disaster and I'd like some clarification of what that actually means.

If this were to happen, i believe it will start with a global currency and evolve from there. I'm not saying it's gonna happen (quite the contrary), but a global currency would not surprise me in the least. A global economy would essentially be the same thing as a global government. Money makes the world go 'round and all that.

 

[Esmeralda]

I never said that Obama is the antichrist. I believe that he ISN'T the antichrist. Although, I believe that someone is, that being whomever Obama gives power over to. It is just theory at this point about the rapture. However, it is rediculous, and quite possibly ignorant, to not believe that there will be a one world government. Ultimately, the global state will not be able to maintain itself, considering the nature of society, therefore, a global war is imminent, leading to total destruction.

Biblically, I don't think the rapture theory holds much water. The rapture theory has the bladder of a 3-year-old girl.

 

[hammockmonkey]

We have a global economy right now. As for having a "global form of currency" that doesn't make much sense, I do not know much about economics, so I won't try and give an answer to this. I'd just say that in order to have some sort of global currency countries, like the USA, would have to give up too much authority and would not want to do it. Already the US dollar, or the Euro, function as global currency, each of them are strong enough that they have a value everwhere.

 

[HappyAZaClaM]

Biblically, I don't think the rapture theory holds much water. The rapture theory has the bladder of a 3-year-old girl.

well, dust my broom :biggrin:

 

[Aquariamethystea]

Anastasia, I agree with you regarding your first response. It most certainly will start with a global currency in most countries which do not have as much of a "democratic" government as in the U.S. It'll be the start of things, with the U.S. following in after a major event, such as the rapture. This is where my "Christian" beliefs are at, as few as they are. I believe in the rapture being the event which will cause the global shift. Looking at 9-11, there is the attempt made by the government and by the media, for national unification due to 9-11, which hasn't worked as well as they planned. There have spawned many activists and protestors based on the 9-11 events. Another human-based terrorist attack could happen, though the government would have difficulty keeping people from suspecting their involvement, as what occured with 9-11. George W Bush has one of the lowest approval ratings ever. John McCain already appears to be no better than Bush, along with that bimbo, Sarah Palin. Barack Obama may very well become one of the most popular presidents in U.S. history, if he is elected, and he has the ability to bring national unity, very well likely into a global movement, if it were to occur. If the rapture were to occur, the U.S. government could blame it on terrorism, without giving much for the activists and protestors to find to blame the government about. Thus keeping Obama's approval ratings high, making the transition to a one world government a simple one, free from much resistance.

 

[HappyAZaClaM]

Biblically, I don't think the rapture theory holds much water. The rapture theory has the bladder of a 3-year-old girl.

actually, anymore I pretty much have the bladder of a 3 year old girl
also. I gets a lot o' extercize in the middle of the night doncha know

 

[Aquariamethystea]

We have a global economy right now. As for having a "global form of currency" that doesn't make much sense, I do not know much about economics, so I won't try and give an answer to this. I'd just say that in order to have some sort of global currency countries, like the USA, would have to give up too much authority and would not want to do it. Already the US dollar, or the Euro, function as global currency, each of them are strong enough that they have a value everwhere.

My friend, Darken, posted a thread regarding a very good video about economics, which if you watch, may very well help you understand economics better, as it has helped me too.

http://www.suicideforum.com/showthread.php?t=52989

 

[HappyAZaClaM]

Anastasia, I agree with you regarding your first response. It most certainly will start with a global currency in most countries which do not have as much of a "democratic" government as in the U.S. It'll be the start of things, with the U.S. following in after a major event, such as the rapture. This is where my "Christian" beliefs are at, as few as they are. I believe in the rapture being the event which will cause the global shift. Looking at 9-11, there is the attempt made by the government and by the media, for national unification due to 9-11, which hasn't worked as well as they planned. There have spawned many activists and protestors based on the 9-11 events. Another human-based terrorist attack could happen, though the government would have difficulty keeping people from suspecting their involvement, as what occured with 9-11. George W Bush has one of the lowest approval ratings ever. John McCain already appears to be no better than Bush, along with that bimbo, Sarah Palin. Barack Obama may very well become one of the most popular presidents in U.S. history, if he is elected, and he has the ability to bring national unity, very well likely into a global movement, if it were to occur. If the rapture were to occur, the U.S. government could blame it on terrorism, without giving much for the activists and protestors to find to blame the government about. Thus keeping Obama's approval ratings high, making the transition to a one world government a simple one, free from much resistance.

ya lost me about mid paragraph. what if all this rapture stuff is not
really true? which of course it isn't. how do we get that out of the
discussion? rather, how'd it get in there? :blink:

are you talking rapture, like God comes and takes the good doobies
up to heaven and all that? ok, I'm not making fun of it. I'm really not.
I just can't buy into it, so I may as well excuse my bad sef' from da
debate, or discussion. carry on. :wink:

 

[Aquariamethystea]

ya lost me about mid paragraph. what if all this rapture stuff is not
really true? which of course it isn't. how do we get that out of the
discussion? rather, how'd it get in there? :blink:

are you talking rapture, like God comes and takes the good doobies
up to heaven and all that? ok, I'm not making fun of it. I'm really not.
I just can't buy into it, so I may as well excuse my bad sef' from da
debate, or discussion. carry on. :wink:

I totally understand, HappyAZaClaM. I'm not writing to prove the rapture in any way, just that I believe that if it does happen, that it'll be the event in which causes the changeover to one world government, rather than another type of event causing the changeover. The rapture is suppose to be about people disappearing; God suddenly taking some people to heaven, body and all, causing those "left behind" to remain on earth for seven years, called the "seven-year tribulation". However, I don't believe that many people will be "raptured", because most of society either is evil, wicked, horrible people, or are just ignorant to the truth about the world and its nature, either by choice, or by disillusionment caused by events or other people. This sort of leads into the little bit of my belief system in regards to God and society, in which I believe that society is the cause of most of people's problems, rather than demonic forces, etc. That's all I'll say about that for now though. The main reason for my involvement in this thread, is to discuss about how the one world government will take place and when it'll happen.

 

[Eric]

Looking at 9-11, there is the attempt made by the government and by the media, for national unification due to 9-11, which hasn't worked as well as they planned. There have spawned many activists and protestors based on the 9-11 events.

That makes perfect sense, oh yes.

You have yet to explain why leading nations of the world would decide to lose their sovereignty just like that. Even global currency seems highly unlikely.

Your whole theory is ridiculous.

 

[Esmeralda]

We have a global economy right now. As for having a "global form of currency" that doesn't make much sense, I do not know much about economics, so I won't try and give an answer to this. I'd just say that in order to have some sort of global currency countries, like the USA, would have to give up too much authority and would not want to do it. Already the US dollar, or the Euro, function as global currency, each of them are strong enough that they have a value everwhere.

Oh yeah, the Dollar is a real winner right now. Might as well burn it for warmth in the coming months

 

[Esmeralda]

Anastasia, I agree with you regarding your first response. It most certainly will start with a global currency in most countries which do not have as much of a "democratic" government as in the U.S. It'll be the start of things, with the U.S. following in after a major event, such as the rapture. This is where my "Christian" beliefs are at, as few as they are. I believe in the rapture being the event which will cause the global shift. Looking at 9-11, there is the attempt made by the government and by the media, for national unification due to 9-11, which hasn't worked as well as they planned. There have spawned many activists and protestors based on the 9-11 events. Another human-based terrorist attack could happen, though the government would have difficulty keeping people from suspecting their involvement, as what occured with 9-11. George W Bush has one of the lowest approval ratings ever. John McCain already appears to be no better than Bush, along with that bimbo, Sarah Palin. Barack Obama may very well become one of the most popular presidents in U.S. history, if he is elected, and he has the ability to bring national unity, very well likely into a global movement, if it were to occur. If the rapture were to occur, the U.S. government could blame it on terrorism, without giving much for the activists and protestors to find to blame the government about. Thus keeping Obama's approval ratings high, making the transition to a one world government a simple one, free from much resistance.

Hmmm... if it happens, it will most assuredly begin with a global economy (the Euro anyone?).

But rapture? I find it interesting that you say you don't much believe in Christianity/the Bible and yet you believe in the rapture, which has almost no biblical basis whatsoever. Actually, I think God would leave the good ones behind for the opportunity for martyrdom, which would essentially be a grace for believers in a way. Free ride to Heaven and all that. No, I'm not being glib. I'm absolutely serious. Scripturally, the rapture doesn't have much evidence.

Also, I don't think Palin is such a moron. Actually, I think she's not so bad. Biden is the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen. "I'm a Catholic! Kill the babies!"

 

[Esmeralda]

actually, anymore I pretty much have the bladder of a 3 year old girl
also. I gets a lot o' extercize in the middle of the night doncha know

Aww, Happy, that 'ole prostate gettin' to ya? I guess there are worse things than pissing every 2 hours

 

[hammockmonkey]

A small example that countries do not want to switch to a global currency. The UK did not switch its currency to the Euro, they did not want to tie their country's economy with the rest of the Europe Union.