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Borderline Personality Disorder | What is BPD? | Signs of BPD
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Don't worry @extraterrestrialone I wouldn't wait until age 50 for it to pass.
Hey, d'you realise how, not sure if it's good or not, but, like, I can envision that maybe I'll reach 50, like you never know what will be. I used to think it wouldn't be possible at all at all.
@AsphyxiateOnWords I wonder if it's that the criteria don't fit, or that they don't define you so much. Like, a lot of what I do is based on a lot of it, but I wonder if the beliefs actually change, or rather the beliefs are there but you aren't acting on them. Take fearing abandonment again, you'll still fear it, but won't do anything because of it. Oh well.
Hey, d'you realise how, not sure if it's good or not, but, like, I can envision that maybe I'll reach 50, like you never know what will be. I used to think it wouldn't be possible at all at all.
@AsphyxiateOnWords I wonder if it's that the criteria don't fit, or that they don't define you so much. Like, a lot of what I do is based on a lot of it, but I wonder if the beliefs actually change, or rather the beliefs are there but you aren't acting on them. Take fearing abandonment again, you'll still fear it, but won't do anything because of it. Oh well.
Well, some things have changed as far as my BPD goes. I think I have a little bit less self-hatred than I used to. I feel like I used to blame myself for everything -- for being different, not fitting in anywhere, not being like other people, not being functional in certain ways, etc. I think a good portion of that hatred is now aimed outward toward humanity as a whole rather than myself. Although, I can definitely still be self-depreciative at times. And also, some of the really fucked up behaviors I had (mostly due to fear of abandonment) when I was 19, I don't do anymore. So there's that, at least. But also, certain things seemingly got worse as well. But yes, beliefs do change over time. Nobody's beliefs stay exactly the same.
I tried to read the last 2 pages of this, briefly, to get the gist of the conversation & the context of this.
BPD symptoms often wane when one leaves their 20's .. then by 50 they're often completely gone. Not to say that's the case for everyone. Hell, there are billions of people on the earth we're not all running the same way.
I dont fit the BPD dx anymore. I feel like I truly left it behind somewhere around 35. Tho, I had a huge decrease in symptoms several years prior.
There's overlap of borderline things with other crap that goes on in life. Borderline has an aspect of acting how one likes & being able to say "well I'm fucked up in the head so deal with my bullshit". There are few things like a personality disorder that make people in ones life crazy. I realized that early on - but couldn't control it at the time. Eventually it worked out.
Idk what all is up in this thread but there's hope you guys. I was def a criteria fit right down to cutting for more than a decade. There's hope.
BPD symptoms often wane when one leaves their 20's .. then by 50 they're often completely gone. Not to say that's the case for everyone. Hell, there are billions of people on the earth we're not all running the same way.
I dont fit the BPD dx anymore. I feel like I truly left it behind somewhere around 35. Tho, I had a huge decrease in symptoms several years prior.
There's overlap of borderline things with other crap that goes on in life. Borderline has an aspect of acting how one likes & being able to say "well I'm fucked up in the head so deal with my bullshit". There are few things like a personality disorder that make people in ones life crazy. I realized that early on - but couldn't control it at the time. Eventually it worked out.
Idk what all is up in this thread but there's hope you guys. I was def a criteria fit right down to cutting for more than a decade. There's hope.
Often you hear it said "change doesn't happen over night. Therapy is a slow process". Comments like this separates the patient and therapist. It puts the patient down making the patient appear to be an impatient child in the presence of a knowing adult. What is not said is that therapy might not work at all. You invest the time and go through lots of pain and after years have to start all over with something different and in a system that may not provide anything else because it becomes inconvenient for the providers. Result is having been put down it appears that patient is at fault. Not the provider. Provider is protected and tough shit for the patient. And then they smile agreeingly saying that sometimes life is not fair. When actually it is that sometimes mental healthcare is selfish and self serving and resorts to deceit rather than compassion. They tell you after the fact, "this is where treatment ends. Have a nice day".
Millon's Four Subtypes of Borderline Personality Disorder
1. The Discouraged Borderline in many ways can look very much like an individual with Dependent Personality Disorder, or what is commonly known in today's jargon as codependent. They tend to be clingy, go along with the crowd, and walk around feeling somber and somewhat dejected. Deep inside however, there are often angry and disappointed with the actions of those around them. Scratch the surface, and that anger could explode, but they are much more likely to do harm to themselves by self-mutilating or even suicide.
2. The Impulsive Borderline seems to be a first cousin to the Histrionic Personality Disorder. These individuals tend to be flirtatious, captivating, elusive and superficial. They are highly energetic and seek out thrill after thrill. They are easily bored and seem to have it never ending appetite for attention and excitement. As their name implies, they will often act without thinking, getting themselves into all sorts of trouble. Such individuals can often be very charismatic and it's easy to get caught in their spell. Beware! You can be the moth drawn to their flame.
3. Millon’s third subtype is what he calls the Petulant Borderline. He describes them as being "unpredictable, irritable, impatient, and complaining" as well as "defiant, disgruntled, stubborn, pessimistic and resentful". They are torn between relying upon people and at the same time keeping their distance for fear of disappointment. They vacillate between feelings of unworthiness and anger. This anger can be quite explosive. Better not get in their line of fire.
4. Finally, there is the Self-Destructive Borderline. This type is marked by his constant sense of bitterness which they turn inward. They will often engage in self-destructive behaviors whether it is conscious or unconscious. Their levels of self-hatred can often reach monumental proportions leading them into all types of self-destructive behaviors, ranging from poor healthcare to reckless driving to performing humiliating sexual acts. These people are not your run-of-the-mill "toxic coworker". Though they might often seem okay on the surface, these are deeply troubled individuals in need of help. Even the most experienced of therapists can be challenged by them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ps...e-4-types-borderline-personality-disorder?amp
1. The Discouraged Borderline in many ways can look very much like an individual with Dependent Personality Disorder, or what is commonly known in today's jargon as codependent. They tend to be clingy, go along with the crowd, and walk around feeling somber and somewhat dejected. Deep inside however, there are often angry and disappointed with the actions of those around them. Scratch the surface, and that anger could explode, but they are much more likely to do harm to themselves by self-mutilating or even suicide.
2. The Impulsive Borderline seems to be a first cousin to the Histrionic Personality Disorder. These individuals tend to be flirtatious, captivating, elusive and superficial. They are highly energetic and seek out thrill after thrill. They are easily bored and seem to have it never ending appetite for attention and excitement. As their name implies, they will often act without thinking, getting themselves into all sorts of trouble. Such individuals can often be very charismatic and it's easy to get caught in their spell. Beware! You can be the moth drawn to their flame.
3. Millon’s third subtype is what he calls the Petulant Borderline. He describes them as being "unpredictable, irritable, impatient, and complaining" as well as "defiant, disgruntled, stubborn, pessimistic and resentful". They are torn between relying upon people and at the same time keeping their distance for fear of disappointment. They vacillate between feelings of unworthiness and anger. This anger can be quite explosive. Better not get in their line of fire.
4. Finally, there is the Self-Destructive Borderline. This type is marked by his constant sense of bitterness which they turn inward. They will often engage in self-destructive behaviors whether it is conscious or unconscious. Their levels of self-hatred can often reach monumental proportions leading them into all types of self-destructive behaviors, ranging from poor healthcare to reckless driving to performing humiliating sexual acts. These people are not your run-of-the-mill "toxic coworker". Though they might often seem okay on the surface, these are deeply troubled individuals in need of help. Even the most experienced of therapists can be challenged by them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ps...e-4-types-borderline-personality-disorder?amp
My favorite thing to say at work is, "you can fix almost anything with duct tape and bailing wire, but you can't fix stupid". My guys laugh think it's funny. When I say it I am completely serious. The shit they do. Anyway. They really need to start administering IQ tests before they hire managers and office staff.