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Aurelia

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Nah, it's a fake one. But that lasts for several years at least. And I laugh at dumb stuff all the time. lol
And i agree that fake ones are better. Firstly, you don't have to clean up pine needles constantly. Second, it lasts more than just a year. Third, helps save the planet. And fourth, Stuart is in agreement with all of this, just so you know.
 

Witty_Sarcasm

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And i agree that fake ones are better. Firstly, you don't have to clean up pine needles constantly. Second, it lasts more than just a year. Third, helps save the planet. And fourth, Stuart is in agreement with all of this, just so you know.
Well yeah, he has less pine needles to step on. :D
 

Aves

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And Ava, too. I swear, Christy and I are going to turn you into one of us. We're a bad influence to the innocent...well, probably more so me.
Haha I’m already a lot less innocent than I seem, Ah no I’m sorry I missed the shit starting conversation. I’ve just scanned through and saw a high looking Goofy so God knows what you’ve been talking about :D I love the randomness of these conversations.
 

Aves

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Haha I’m already a lot less innocent than I seem, Ah no I’m sorry I missed the shit starting conversation. I’ve just scanned through and saw a high looking Goofy so God knows what you’ve been talking about :D I love the randomness of these conversations.
I’ve just said that I’m not that innocent but I logged out to go to sleep at 11pm :D. That is quite late though by my standards at the moment now that I’ve got my son.
 

Aurelia

🔥 A Fire Inside 🔥
SF Supporter
Haha I’m already a lot less innocent than I seem, Ah no I’m sorry I missed the shit starting conversation. I’ve just scanned through and saw a high looking Goofy so God knows what you’ve been talking about :D I love the randomness of these conversations.
Lol I started talking about how I live literally across the street from a bunch of crack dealers (albeit, with extremely nice electric BMWs), and she posted that picture. But to me it definitely looked more like je was withdrawaling from heroin because I totally remember my eyes being just pupil and nothing else when I was going through it lol. It's funny now, of course, when I'm fine, but at the time, I wouldn't have found it very funny at all haha.
 

Aurelia

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SF Supporter
And now, I'm about to get extremely nerdy on you both and explain why this happens :P

Reason people's eyes are so wide when they're going through it is because they have a bunch of adrenalin and cortisol flowing through their system, and a severe lack of dopamine. The body is literally in fight or flight mode.
 

Aves

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And now, I'm about to get extremely nerdy on you both and explain why this happens :P

Reason people's eyes are so wide when they're going through it is because they have a bunch of adrenalin and cortisol flowing through their system, and a severe lack of dopamine. The body is literally in fight or flight mode.
Ah right, that’s really interesting. I love finding out about stuff so feel free to nerd away. Withdrawal sounds awful, I’ve only ever seen it depicted in tv and films so I have no idea what it feels like. So is there trembling with it as well? That seems to be something that’s always associated with heroin withdrawal. I’m assuming that would be because of the adrenalin too.
 

Ash600

Of dust and shadows
SF Creative
SF Supporter
Withdrawal symptoms will mainly be down to the effects opiods have on the noradrenergic and dopamine system mainly via the mu-opiod receptors in some of the neural pathways in the brain. Once bound, opiods tend to alter the balance of circulating noadrenaline (norephinephrine in the USA) and dopamine levels. If removed suddenly, then it will feel as if the body has tried to overcompensate in it's desire to regain "normal" neurotransmitter levels. Call it a rebound effect if you will and this explains the rationale for a gradual tapering down of opiods (as well as oher drugs) so as to avoid hardcore withdrawal symptoms.
In the case of opiods, they tend to reduce noradrenaline release. If opiods are no longer present, then the result would be an increase in the activity of noradrenaline release which can lead to the appearance of withdrawal symptoms such as tremors, muscle cramps, piloerection, diarrhoea, anxiety etc.
Additionally, the mesolimbic system is also affected which is concerned with dopamine levels. Removal of opiods leads to a downshift of dopamine release causing dysphoria, depressed mood and drug craving.

Thank you and that concludes the lecture for today :)
 

Aurelia

🔥 A Fire Inside 🔥
SF Supporter
Withdrawal symptoms will mainly be down to the effects opiods have on the noradrenergic and dopamine system mainly via the mu-opiod receptors in some of the neural pathways in the brain. Once bound, opiods tend to alter the balance of circulating noadrenaline (norephinephrine in the USA) and dopamine levels. If removed suddenly, then it will feel as if the body has tried to overcompensate in it's desire to regain "normal" neurotransmitter levels. Call it a rebound effect if you will and this explains the rationale for a gradual tapering down of opiods (as well as oher drugs) so as to avoid hardcore withdrawal symptoms.
In the case of opiods, they tend to reduce noradrenaline release. If opiods are no longer present, then the result would be an increase in the activity of noradrenaline release which can lead to the appearance of withdrawal symptoms such as tremors, muscle cramps, piloerection, diarrhoea, anxiety etc.
Additionally, the mesolimbic system is also affected which is concerned with dopamine levels. Removal of opiods leads to a downshift of dopamine release causing dysphoria, depressed mood and drug craving.

Thank you and that concludes the lecture for today :)
And this one is just as nerdy as I am, haha.
 

Aurelia

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SF Supporter
I pray to reason I can just let go and forget one day. It hurts so badly to be around him and deal with the bullshit. But all I want is to know he's okay because even though I know we can't be together unless some miracle happens and he changes (which I know it most likely won't), I still care so damn much. And if he dies, I don't think I will ever be the same again and might actually have a nervous breakdown. I don't even know who I'm talking to...everyone, anyone...Just help me let go...please. I can't take this pain.
 

Ash600

Of dust and shadows
SF Creative
SF Supporter
I pray to reason I can just let go and forget one day. It hurts so badly to be around him and deal with the bullshit. But all I want is to know he's okay because even though I know we can't be together unless some miracle happens and he changes (which I know it most likely won't), I still care so damn much. And if he dies, I don't think I will ever be the same again and might actually have a nervous breakdown. I don't even know who I'm talking to...everyone, anyone...Just help me let go...please. I can't take this pain.
Just so you know, we do hear you, and feel for you for what it's worth.
 

Aves

Well-Known Member
Withdrawal symptoms will mainly be down to the effects opiods have on the noradrenergic and dopamine system mainly via the mu-opiod receptors in some of the neural pathways in the brain. Once bound, opiods tend to alter the balance of circulating noadrenaline (norephinephrine in the USA) and dopamine levels. If removed suddenly, then it will feel as if the body has tried to overcompensate in it's desire to regain "normal" neurotransmitter levels. Call it a rebound effect if you will and this explains the rationale for a gradual tapering down of opiods (as well as oher drugs) so as to avoid hardcore withdrawal symptoms.
In the case of opiods, they tend to reduce noradrenaline release. If opiods are no longer present, then the result would be an increase in the activity of noradrenaline release which can lead to the appearance of withdrawal symptoms such as tremors, muscle cramps, piloerection, diarrhoea, anxiety etc.
Additionally, the mesolimbic system is also affected which is concerned with dopamine levels. Removal of opiods leads to a downshift of dopamine release causing dysphoria, depressed mood and drug craving.

Thank you and that concludes the lecture for today :)
Thank you :) it’s very interesting
 

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