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Family distance

Human Ex Machinae

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#1
I saw someone else's thread having to do with being distant from family, and instead of dropping a personal MOAB on her discussion, I figured I'd make my own.

I've been distant from my family, with the exception of my mother, for many years, decades, now. Two older sisters and a passel of nieces and nephews. I used to blame them, but I understand now that if anyone is to blame, it's me, my depression. I removed myself from their lives the same way I removed myself from the rest of the world, because interaction with them, like interaction with everyone else, was too painful for me.
I've had specific moments in my life where I reached a new plateau, or sunk to one, that I've always remembered and they've been transitional points. Nothing would ever be the same after these specific moments on these particular days.
The moment that altered my relationship with my family forever, and ultimately led to it's disintegration, came in my late teens. Though I didn't realize it at the time, I had already been descending into the vortex of depression for years. It was a day like any other that had come before. The whole family was gathered at my sister's house for dinner. There were already a nephew and a niece running around, and it was a boisterous, noisy family gathering same as always. I was sitting in the dining room from where I could see everyone in the kitchen and the living room, and that's when it struck. I looked around at them all in amazement and wonder, thinking, "They're just people..." I had already started to distance myself from others, outside of the family, but they had remained special to me, until that moment. "They're no different from anyone else. They're like everyone else in this world, who I can't understand and who can't understand me."
They of course had no idea that I'd just been struck by lightning and severed from them. The day proceeded normally, everyone else had a nice time. But for me the process of separating myself from them had already begun. I had already started down that road. It didn't happen all at once, it took months, maybe a few years before all of the ties were cut. Cut by me, not them. And for the rest of my life, I've had no family.
It's done and can't be undone. I'm still me. It's been a part of my existence for many years now and I came to terms with it long ago. It is what it is and I accept it.
The only thing that's changed is that now I understand that it was me who did it, not them, and that understanding helps. It's good to put to rest negative feelings about others, especially when those negative feelings are undeserved. We only harm ourselves that way, and the less harm and pain we deliver to ourselves, the better off we are and anyone who comes into contact with us.
My family aren't bad people. Neither am I. We're just people.
 

Kiwi2016

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I can relate to what you are saying. I was estranged from my parents for over 10 years created in part by my actions moving across the country to be with the man who later became my husband. As an only child there was always a level of guilt but I realized that I needed that space to figure out as you said how to see them like "other people"...Since then my mother died from early dementia and I am in more contact with my father but I still maintain a distance as I still find it hard to completely forgive past actions but also know that we are both different people now and can maybe begin to have a relationship at this new starting place. But I've also discovered that family isn't necessarily your blood relatives...its your friends with whom you sometimes have stronger ties with...
 

Lara_C

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#3
I believe that as humans, we are all the same underneath, despite superficial differences of interest, belief, skill, character, etc. In the big things in life, the things that really matter, we are one, and I think we need to connect at this deeper level, even mentally, to feel like we belong and also to really appreciate the uniqueness of each individual expression of our common humanity, although naturally we have more affinity with some more than others, not necessarily our family
 
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Human Ex Machinae

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But I've also discovered that family isn't necessarily your blood relatives...its your friends with whom you sometimes have stronger ties with...
Yes, and it's often a lot easier to open up to a friend than it is to family. Less baggage.
I believe that as humans, we are all the same underneath, despite superficial differences of interest, belief, skill, character, etc.
Yep, same water, different vessels. No good guys, no bad guys, just guys all doing the best they know how.
 

Lara_C

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I've not got any sibs, but often wish I did. Having said that, families are often overdemanding , taking without giving much in return. No wonder there's conflict, which gets too much.
 

Human Ex Machinae

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#8
I'm estranged from four of my siblings. I have zero desire to see them. I don't wish evil on them, I'm just protecting myself (for a change, lol!)
That's about where I'm at with my siblings, too. Recently though I reestablished contact with one of my sisters, because my mother moved in with her over in Arizona. That was a big relief for me because the extra burden of worrying about my elderly mother, who these days has very limited mobility, and had been living alone, finally getting some help and support from family, helped me a lot. My sister and me have just exchanged a few nice emails and waved to each other and spoken a few words during my video chats with Mom, that's about it, nothing major, but it's nice. She's the one who's most like me, we used to have a special bond.
 

Human Ex Machinae

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#9
I've not got any sibs, but often wish I did. Having said that, families are often overdemanding , taking without giving much in return. No wonder there's conflict, which gets too much.
The early years with my sisters, when we were growing up, was constant conflict. They were constantly kicking the crap out of me until over the course of one summer when I was around 12, I had a growth spurt and suddenly transformed into a very large stack of meat and bones. In later years we became friends and much closer. Family is a complete crap shoot, some people are cursed with horribly dysfunctional ones, others are blessed. Mine was ok, could have been a lot worse, they were fairly decent people. Still are, from what I hear via mom.
 
#10
I saw someone else's thread having to do with being distant from family, and instead of dropping a personal MOAB on her discussion, I figured I'd make my own.

I've been distant from my family, with the exception of my mother, for many years, decades, now. Two older sisters and a passel of nieces and nephews. I used to blame them, but I understand now that if anyone is to blame, it's me, my depression. I removed myself from their lives the same way I removed myself from the rest of the world, because interaction with them, like interaction with everyone else, was too painful for me.
I've had specific moments in my life where I reached a new plateau, or sunk to one, that I've always remembered and they've been transitional points. Nothing would ever be the same after these specific moments on these particular days.
The moment that altered my relationship with my family forever, and ultimately led to it's disintegration, came in my late teens. Though I didn't realize it at the time, I had already been descending into the vortex of depression for years. It was a day like any other that had come before. The whole family was gathered at my sister's house for dinner. There were already a nephew and a niece running around, and it was a boisterous, noisy family gathering same as always. I was sitting in the dining room from where I could see everyone in the kitchen and the living room, and that's when it struck. I looked around at them all in amazement and wonder, thinking, "They're just people..." I had already started to distance myself from others, outside of the family, but they had remained special to me, until that moment. "They're no different from anyone else. They're like everyone else in this world, who I can't understand and who can't understand me."
They of course had no idea that I'd just been struck by lightning and severed from them. The day proceeded normally, everyone else had a nice time. But for me the process of separating myself from them had already begun. I had already started down that road. It didn't happen all at once, it took months, maybe a few years before all of the ties were cut. Cut by me, not them. And for the rest of my life, I've had no family.
It's done and can't be undone. I'm still me. It's been a part of my existence for many years now and I came to terms with it long ago. It is what it is and I accept it.
The only thing that's changed is that now I understand that it was me who did it, not them, and that understanding helps. It's good to put to rest negative feelings about others, especially when those negative feelings are undeserved. We only harm ourselves that way, and the less harm and pain we deliver to ourselves, the better off we are and anyone who comes into contact with us.
My family aren't bad people. Neither am I. We're just people.

Hi,

I am sorry your family relationships have brought you pain.

It is good that you are able to look at your relationship with your family and resolve the negative feelings you once had.
I’m glad to hear that you still have a relationship with your mom, and hope that further opportunities present themselves to build relationship with your sisters again. Praying for you.
 

Human Ex Machinae

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#11
Hi,

I am sorry your family relationships have brought you pain.

It is good that you are able to look at your relationship with your family and resolve the negative feelings you once had.
I’m glad to hear that you still have a relationship with your mom, and hope that further opportunities present themselves to build relationship with your sisters again. Praying for you.
Thanks, PA. My mom has always prayed for me a lot. She's The Last Catholic of my family, everyone else is either Buddhist now, or atheist. I'm neither. I thought I was an atheist in my late teens and early 20's, but as time went on I developed strong spiritual beliefs of my own. I believe in the power of prayer.
 

Lara_C

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#14
It's funny, one of my Catholic relatives used to pray to St Jude (patron saint of hopeless cases) for everybody. We were never sure if we should be grateful or not, particularly when it seemed she was praying for improvement of someone's character!
 

Lara_C

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#16
It's fascinating all the patron saints there are in Catholicism for any problem you might encounter. My mother went to church to pray to St Anthony (patron of lost property) for the return of her lost her wedding ring. Being a very devout believer, she was most disconcerted on leaving the church to discover her car had been stolen whilst she was praying.
 

Human Ex Machinae

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#17
It's fascinating all the patron saints there are in Catholicism for any problem you might encounter. My mother went to church to pray to St Anthony (patron of lost property) for the return of her lost her wedding ring. Being a very devout believer, she was most disconcerted on leaving the church to discover her car had been stolen whilst she was praying.
OMG! Anthony must have been in a rotten mood that day. Did she ever get either of them back?
 

Lara_C

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#18
The police got the car back, and she found the ring later. She just put it down to God working in mysterious ways, lol.:) Catholicism trains you to think that way from an early age; whatever happens God is in charge and everything is unfolding according to His plan.
 

Human Ex Machinae

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#20
The police got the car back, and she found the ring later. She just put it down to God working in mysterious ways, lol.:) Catholicism trains you to think that way from an early age; whatever happens God is in charge and everything is unfolding according to His plan.
She was being 'tested', no doubt. Fun fact: I wanted to be a priest until I was around 10. My mother and all of my grandaunts got the programming into me early, so even though that world and way of thinking couldn't be more distant to me these days, I'm still familiar with it and understand it. I'm familiar with the terrain:)
 

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