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How’s Your Therapy Going?

Lumos

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I have therapy tomorrow after class...
He doesn't think I'm that weird. He agrees times are shit for everything. And that everyone is struggling... We talk about housing and me afraid of homelessness a lot.

Its not the end of the world if I have to work 2 jobs. And study online. With barely any sleep.
He thinks I will survive. But I don't feel like I will...
"You're stronger than you give yourself credit for".
Yeah.... But I feel so drained. It feels so impossible.
That sounds really hard, have you told him how drained you feel?
 

dandelions

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I was having trouble thinking of things to talk about with my therapist, so we decided to move to doing monthly check-ins instead of meeting every two weeks. I'm nervous about it.
hoping monthly will work for you. I’ve been out of my intensive program now for 3 months and that was individual therapy once a week but also included group 3 times a week and a couple other parts of the program making a total of 5 days. so when they dropped me from the program, and going back to my former one day a week therapist, the change was pretty intense itself. but i think that once you get yourself into a secure positive place as i’ve been working at for 2 years, then less frequent becomes possible - maybe even better! i’ve been managing and feeling positive. I don’t know much about how you’ve been doing but you do strike me as being very positive (if you don’t mind my saying). I’m hoping this new adjustment works for you. keep us posted!
 

dandelions

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I have therapy tomorrow after class...
He doesn't think I'm that weird. He agrees times are shit for everything. And that everyone is struggling... We talk about housing and me afraid of homelessness a lot.

Its not the end of the world if I have to work 2 jobs. And study online. With barely any sleep.
He thinks I will survive. But I don't feel like I will...
"You're stronger than you give yourself credit for".
Yeah.... But I feel so drained. It feels so impossible.
been drained myself. i‘m not trying to offer false hope but i’ve had it pointed out to me many times how i manage to survive even when it appears that i won’t. at the very least i can hope and root for you. you may be surprised. you are always around here so you must be working hard at it. i believe that that inspires others and that is strengthening for the self as well.
 

Baywasp

I know the world turns and it will turn on me
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hoping monthly will work for you. I’ve been out of my intensive program now for 3 months and that was individual therapy once a week but also included group 3 times a week and a couple other parts of the program making a total of 5 days. so when they dropped me from the program, and going back to my former one day a week therapist, the change was pretty intense itself. but i think that once you get yourself into a secure positive place as i’ve been working at for 2 years, then less frequent becomes possible - maybe even better! i’ve been managing and feeling positive. I don’t know much about how you’ve been doing but you do strike me as being very positive (if you don’t mind my saying). I’m hoping this new adjustment works for you. keep us posted!
Thank you! I was starting to dread going because I never knew what I wanted to achieve or talk about at this point, but I'm not sure if that was because I don't have much or if it's because my relatively new therapist seems to want me to be much more self-directed and involved than my last one did and I have trouble speaking up and making decisions sometimes.

I did an intensive outpatient program a couple of times. The first one didn't help much, but then a few years later (2019) I was able to get into one aimed at people in my age group, and it did seem to really help. It was kind of a big adjustment getting out of that, but I was honestly feeling ready to transition out when I had finished the program.

Glad you feel you've been managing! I do feel like I'm in a much more positive place, and with better coping skills, and perhaps most importantly in my case, I've accepted the fact that I have a major role in helping myself get better. I'm a little nervous because I've been in therapy practically nonstop since I was about 13 and scaling back this far seems significant. But I think it could be good.
 

dandelions

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i am wondering… i consider the following… in my earliest therapy, i would at times be “forced“ into crying situations. (the force was not like someone was hounding me, but more i was actually facing my horrors). i moved onto an intensive program and in that program i was also pushed into crying situations. then eventually i started working with a new therapist and one who i feel is the most supportive of all the therapists i have had. during the time i’ve worked with her there was a break of one year where i once again was in an intensive program where there was an abundance of crying.

the point here is that with this one supportive therapist i don’t cry. there are times when i finish a session and say, wtf, am i making any kind of progress at all. have i touched anything inside? it really seems like not. it was this way when we started a few years ago and now back with her since january it still is a tearless therapy. they make tearless shampoo that seems to do the trick for hair. i’m wondering if positive therapy can be accomplished without tears.

does anyone have any idea ?!?!?
 
Im honestly not sure if I'm making any progres...
My mood just swings around from good to bad... So sometimes I go into therapy in a "good" phase and we just talk about nonsense and then I suddenly have an emotional crisis the next session and we have to go into damage control :(
When I'm feeling OK, I always think that I'm wasting the therapists time and wasting everyones money on me...
 

Angie

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i am wondering… i consider the following… in my earliest therapy, i would at times be “forced“ into crying situations. (the force was not like someone was hounding me, but more i was actually facing my horrors). i moved onto an intensive program and in that program i was also pushed into crying situations. then eventually i started working with a new therapist and one who i feel is the most supportive of all the therapists i have had. during the time i’ve worked with her there was a break of one year where i once again was in an intensive program where there was an abundance of crying.

the point here is that with this one supportive therapist i don’t cry. there are times when i finish a session and say, wtf, am i making any kind of progress at all. have i touched anything inside? it really seems like not. it was this way when we started a few years ago and now back with her since january it still is a tearless therapy. they make tearless shampoo that seems to do the trick for hair. i’m wondering if positive therapy can be accomplished without tears.

does anyone have any idea ?!?!?
Hey there. Yes I think you can make progress without tears. I went thru a time where I cried every session. But in the last few years not so much. Just depends on the individual I think.

Best wishes
 

Astrid78

Spoonful of sugar will help the medicine go down
I'm seeing someone new tomorrow going to ask for a reevaluation of my diagnosis, due to all the fear and dissociation I have a hard time being honest, especially about feeling suicidal sometimes they can really freak out about this, but it's also a huge part of what I'm dealing with now. Anyways I wrote a list of things to talk about, things I've never realized may be issues before now, so I'm nervous about this and worried I may not go.
 

dandelions

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I'm seeing someone new tomorrow going to ask for a reevaluation of my diagnosis, due to all the fear and dissociation I have a hard time being honest, especially about feeling suicidal sometimes they can really freak out about this, but it's also a huge part of what I'm dealing with now. Anyways I wrote a list of things to talk about, things I've never realized may be issues before now, so I'm nervous about this and worried I may not go.
you could always go and then not go back. or not go back right away. you could look at it as a sampling and get a better idea of what is involved. someone was just telling me I'm not seeing the right kind of therapist. that I need one who specializes in childhood trauma. I may soon be doing the same thing as you.. I'd love to hear about your experience. but I know being nervous is always a thing. but maybe not as bad if you just take it as a given. I know I've been such a mess in therapy but I did withstand it.
 

Astrid78

Spoonful of sugar will help the medicine go down
you could always go and then not go back. or not go back right away. you could look at it as a sampling and get a better idea of what is involved. someone was just telling me I'm not seeing the right kind of therapist. that I need one who specializes in childhood trauma. I may soon be doing the same thing as you.. I'd love to hear about your experience. but I know being nervous is always a thing. but maybe not as bad if you just take it as a given. I know I've been such a mess in therapy but I did withstand it.
Yes, I am going to try, she's not actually a therapist her title is psych nurse practitioner which should be interesting, I'll let you know how it goes.
 

Astrid78

Spoonful of sugar will help the medicine go down
The appointment went well I guess, she prescribed meds even though I really dont want to take them, she did take the BPD off my diagnosis so that's nice, as I wont be treated for it anymore. She also thinks autism fits so that's pretty validating she also brought up adhd the med she gave me is supposed to help with these. It was funny, she's reading through my chart and goes "damn girl, you've been hospitalized like 10,000 times" I'm sure she misspoke, meant 1000 but still. It makes me feel hopeless, like I've had all this "help" and yet here I am. I'm terrified about the meds, in the past they havent helped much and usually my brain ends up going haywire, and i try to ctb. Or the side effects are complete hell and I turn into a zombie with much uncontrollable eating and drolling. Sorry this is rather negative, and long but I'm making some changes one of them is no longer acting in anyway simply to make others comfortable as this us very hurtful to me.
 

dandelions

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The appointment went well I guess, she prescribed meds even though I really dont want to take them, she did take the BPD off my diagnosis so that's nice, as I wont be treated for it anymore. She also thinks autism fits so that's pretty validating she also brought up adhd the med she gave me is supposed to help with these. It was funny, she's reading through my chart and goes "damn girl, you've been hospitalized like 10,000 times" I'm sure she misspoke, meant 1000 but still. It makes me feel hopeless, like I've had all this "help" and yet here I am. I'm terrified about the meds, in the past they havent helped much and usually my brain ends up going haywire, and i try to ctb. Or the side effects are complete hell and I turn into a zombie with much uncontrollable eating and drolling. Sorry this is rather negative, and long but I'm making some changes one of them is no longer acting in anyway simply to make others comfortable as this us very hurtful to me.
wow, there's a lot to take in here. so glad you are comfortable with how it went.

can i ask, where do you live? what country? I've always been told "these are my diagnoses" they'll go with me wherever I go! (im in the usa btw). I've had long talks about this. and what is in the record stays in the record. it's like being branded by society. someone once said something about me and i’m just forever stuck with it.

it's so great they are working with you. hey I'm not a big med fan, but I was on one for a while that did actually feel good. no unpleasant side effects. so do think of it as something that can really help. and once again, my present therapist keeps saying i’m on the autism spectrum, however other psychiatrists have completely ignored that. its a strange system!!! anyway, i’m so happy to hear it went well.
 

Astrid78

Spoonful of sugar will help the medicine go down
wow, there's a lot to take in here. so glad you are comfortable with how it went.

can i ask, where do you live? what country? I've always been told "these are my diagnoses" they'll go with me wherever I go! (im in the usa btw). I've had long talks about this. and what is in the record stays in the record. it's like being branded by society. someone once said something about me and i’m just forever stuck with it.

it's so great they are working with you. hey I'm not a big med fan, but I was on one for a while that did actually feel good. no unpleasant side effects. so do think of it as something that can really help. and once again, my present therapist keeps saying i’m on the autism spectrum, however other psychiatrists have completely ignored that. its a strange system!!! anyway, i’m so happy to hear it went well.
Yeah, sorry I can get long winded sometimes haha. Like you I am in the states, yes getting a diagnosis off can be hard, over the past few years two therapists one er doc and one pdoc have all stated they don't see the borderline in me, perhaps she just lied...
Have you done any research on autism?
 

dandelions

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Have you done any research on autism?
i actually joined an autism group. its some kind of national or international organization, and i felt they were very unwelcoming. that i suppose is to be expected or so i was told. but i did feel out of place there. so after a few times (weekly) i left and haven’t been back since. when i was in my teens and first heard about autism i thought i had it, but now, not so much. but i have not done much research and much of how i feel is just from my own observation.

they have called me borderline too and even antisocial, but i reject both of those especially the antisocial because the diagnosis was arrived after the psychiatrist’s assistants interviewed me for 10 minutes and then wrote a report they gave to their boss. i believe what best descirbes me is ESD (Ego State Disorder) which is close to DID but without alters that actually come out. It is definitely dissociation. Strangely the specialists are accepting that i feel I’m with ESD, but they also don’t seem to take it seriously. Self Diagnosing might not be widely accepted. but in this instance i believe i have valid reasons that i think i can support with evidence and things I’ve found written by researchers.

hey don’t worry about being “long winded”. you’ve read my posts before. i can’t stop myself writing unless there is a good 20 minutes of reading material at least for the poor soul who stumbles upon my posts. well, if you got the diagnosis removed it is cause for celebration. Congrats!!!
 

Astrid78

Spoonful of sugar will help the medicine go down
i actually joined an autism group. its some kind of national or international organization, and i felt they were very unwelcoming. that i suppose is to be expected or so i was told. but i did feel out of place there. so after a few times (weekly) i left and haven’t been back since. when i was in my teens and first heard about autism i thought i had it, but now, not so much. but i have not done much research and much of how i feel is just from my own observation.

they have called me borderline too and even antisocial, but i reject both of those especially the antisocial because the diagnosis was arrived after the psychiatrist’s assistants interviewed me for 10 minutes and then wrote a report they gave to their boss. i believe what best descirbes me is ESD (Ego State Disorder) which is close to DID but without alters that actually come out. It is definitely dissociation. Strangely the specialists are accepting that i feel I’m with ESD, but they also don’t seem to take it seriously. Self Diagnosing might not be widely accepted. but in this instance i believe i have valid reasons that i think i can support with evidence and things I’ve found written by researchers.

hey don’t worry about being “long winded”. you’ve read my posts before. i can’t stop myself writing unless there is a good 20 minutes of reading material at least for the poor soul who stumbles upon my posts. well, if you got the diagnosis removed it is cause for celebration. Congrats!!!
I like reading your posts, thank you for sharing some if your experiences.
 
I hope you don't mind me making comment on your posts on this thread @Astrid78 .....I'm glad to hear the BPD was removed for you. It's interesting to me that a practitioner can come up with a diagnosis in one visit and decide upon meds in one visit as well. I hope that there are no hard side effects from the one being prescribed for you and that they help you.
 

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