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Sometimes, people who've had success with antidepressants will stop taking them, and that can be one reason for the/or its return. What my psychiatrist once said, when I'd posed the question to him, was that when you're symptom-free for one year, then that is when you can begin to wean off them. For if you don't, or you do stop before then, sometimes you can increase the chances of having a relapse. I feel as though I'm not wording it as well as I once did. But it's a memory from a conversation of a dozen years ago. And my memory's not what it used to be. By the way, he phrased it as if that's the way he tells all of his patients, and not necessarily me, as a case-study per se. But whether that was fact, or fiction, I could not say (he may have been intending for it to be applied to my case alone: which was pretty severe at the time).
If you've only tried some of them, for not that long a time, then you might want to reconsider giving it another try. If only to see if they can find something that agrees with you, and actually works. While it/or they may not wipe things out completely, in terms of the unwanted feelings, they may minimize them enough to the point where you can be free from the throes of what you are feeling now. "blunt," in a term often used. Can we blunt the depression, and its worst symptoms ... such that you won't feel this disastrous, or think ill thoughts, start to dream of ways out, etc. ("?")
They don't work for everyone. But for a lot of them that feel they don't, they may not have given it a full committment, if you truly ask them honestly. Or just ask that they be truthful, and don't make believe with - themselves.
There's other ways, as well. As I'm sure you're aware, such as therapy. It all just depends on the given individual what might work best for them and in order to be a success. Some need some combination of both (drugs & talk). Others just need one or the other. Some might benefit greatly from one, and not so much from the other. But they still choose, or elect to do both in order to give themselves the best opportunity to fight off & ward off this evil moster of a disease. It's like mental hygiene, in a way? ... so you've got to try them all out (or you don't have to, of course, but you can - it's an option that's out there) & see, or figure & find out what does and does not work for you. Unfortunately, this sometimes, often times in fact, requires a good deal of trial & error. Faith, patience, determination & drive. The unwillingness to give up. Perseverance & the like. Funny, when you get on down to it, it's 'Mental toughness/or strength,' that would serve you well in these circumstances. How ironic is that? Unless I am using that word wrong, or incorrectly. If so, please forgive me. It is late (here), and all is quiet. Not a creature is stirring, you get the drift~
I understand that it can be frustrating and infuriating. But that's kind of the norm, or normal especially in the more extreme or significant cases. Such as that which lead to many of us signing up here. In any event keep reaching out & talking with/discussing with others. Seek and get their input. Lots of fantastic & phenomenal brains & minds around here, as I'm sure you've noticed. Good night & good luck @nicktheundoer !
If you've only tried some of them, for not that long a time, then you might want to reconsider giving it another try. If only to see if they can find something that agrees with you, and actually works. While it/or they may not wipe things out completely, in terms of the unwanted feelings, they may minimize them enough to the point where you can be free from the throes of what you are feeling now. "blunt," in a term often used. Can we blunt the depression, and its worst symptoms ... such that you won't feel this disastrous, or think ill thoughts, start to dream of ways out, etc. ("?")
They don't work for everyone. But for a lot of them that feel they don't, they may not have given it a full committment, if you truly ask them honestly. Or just ask that they be truthful, and don't make believe with - themselves.
There's other ways, as well. As I'm sure you're aware, such as therapy. It all just depends on the given individual what might work best for them and in order to be a success. Some need some combination of both (drugs & talk). Others just need one or the other. Some might benefit greatly from one, and not so much from the other. But they still choose, or elect to do both in order to give themselves the best opportunity to fight off & ward off this evil moster of a disease. It's like mental hygiene, in a way? ... so you've got to try them all out (or you don't have to, of course, but you can - it's an option that's out there) & see, or figure & find out what does and does not work for you. Unfortunately, this sometimes, often times in fact, requires a good deal of trial & error. Faith, patience, determination & drive. The unwillingness to give up. Perseverance & the like. Funny, when you get on down to it, it's 'Mental toughness/or strength,' that would serve you well in these circumstances. How ironic is that? Unless I am using that word wrong, or incorrectly. If so, please forgive me. It is late (here), and all is quiet. Not a creature is stirring, you get the drift~
I understand that it can be frustrating and infuriating. But that's kind of the norm, or normal especially in the more extreme or significant cases. Such as that which lead to many of us signing up here. In any event keep reaching out & talking with/discussing with others. Seek and get their input. Lots of fantastic & phenomenal brains & minds around here, as I'm sure you've noticed. Good night & good luck @nicktheundoer !
Sometimes, people who've had success with antidepressants will stop taking them, and that can be one reason for the/or its return. What my psychiatrist once said, when I'd posed the question to him, was that when you're symptom-free for one year, then that is when you can begin to wean off them. For if you don't, or you do stop before then, sometimes you can increase the chances of having a relapse. I feel as though I'm not wording it as well as I once did. But it's a memory from a conversation of a dozen years ago. And my memory's not what it used to be. By the way, he phrased it as if that's the way he tells all of his patients, and not necessarily me, as a case-study per se. But whether that was fact, or fiction, I could not say (he may have been intending for it to be applied to my case alone: which was pretty severe at the time).
If you've only tried some of them, for not that long a time, then you might want to reconsider giving it another try. If only to see if they can find something that agrees with you, and actually works. While it/or they may not wipe things out completely, in terms of the unwanted feelings, they may minimize them enough to the point where you can be free from the throes of what you are feeling now. "blunt," in a term often used. Can we blunt the depression, and its worst symptoms ... such that you won't feel this disastrous, or think ill thoughts, start to dream of ways out, etc. ("?")
They don't work for everyone. But for a lot of them that feel they don't, they may not have given it a full committment, if you truly ask them honestly. Or just ask that they be truthful, and don't make believe with - themselves.
There's other ways, as well. As I'm sure you're aware, such as therapy. It all just depends on the given individual what might work best for them and in order to be a success. Some need some combination of both (drugs & talk). Others just need one or the other. Some might benefit greatly from one, and not so much from the other. But they still choose, or elect to do both in order to give themselves the best opportunity to fight off & ward off this evil moster of a disease. It's like mental hygiene, in a way? ... so you've got to try them all out (or you don't have to, of course, but you can - it's an option that's out there) & see, or figure & find out what does and does not work for you. Unfortunately, this sometimes, often times in fact, requires a good deal of trial & error. Faith, patience, determination & drive. The unwillingness to give up. Perseverance & the like. Funny, when you get on down to it, it's 'Mental toughness/or strength,' that would serve you well in these circumstances. How ironic is that? Unless I am using that word wrong, or incorrectly. If so, please forgive me. It is late (here), and all is quiet. Not a creature is stirring, you get the drift~
I understand that it can be frustrating and infuriating. But that's kind of the norm, or normal especially in the more extreme or significant cases. Such as that which lead to many of us signing up here. In any event keep reaching out & talking with/discussing with others. Seek and get their input. Lots of fantastic & phenomenal brains & minds around here, as I'm sure you've noticed. Good night & good luck @nicktheundoer !
If you've only tried some of them, for not that long a time, then you might want to reconsider giving it another try. If only to see if they can find something that agrees with you, and actually works. While it/or they may not wipe things out completely, in terms of the unwanted feelings, they may minimize them enough to the point where you can be free from the throes of what you are feeling now. "blunt," in a term often used. Can we blunt the depression, and its worst symptoms ... such that you won't feel this disastrous, or think ill thoughts, start to dream of ways out, etc. ("?")
They don't work for everyone. But for a lot of them that feel they don't, they may not have given it a full committment, if you truly ask them honestly. Or just ask that they be truthful, and don't make believe with - themselves.
There's other ways, as well. As I'm sure you're aware, such as therapy. It all just depends on the given individual what might work best for them and in order to be a success. Some need some combination of both (drugs & talk). Others just need one or the other. Some might benefit greatly from one, and not so much from the other. But they still choose, or elect to do both in order to give themselves the best opportunity to fight off & ward off this evil moster of a disease. It's like mental hygiene, in a way? ... so you've got to try them all out (or you don't have to, of course, but you can - it's an option that's out there) & see, or figure & find out what does and does not work for you. Unfortunately, this sometimes, often times in fact, requires a good deal of trial & error. Faith, patience, determination & drive. The unwillingness to give up. Perseverance & the like. Funny, when you get on down to it, it's 'Mental toughness/or strength,' that would serve you well in these circumstances. How ironic is that? Unless I am using that word wrong, or incorrectly. If so, please forgive me. It is late (here), and all is quiet. Not a creature is stirring, you get the drift~
I understand that it can be frustrating and infuriating. But that's kind of the norm, or normal especially in the more extreme or significant cases. Such as that which lead to many of us signing up here. In any event keep reaching out & talking with/discussing with others. Seek and get their input. Lots of fantastic & phenomenal brains & minds around here, as I'm sure you've noticed. Good night & good luck @nicktheundoer !
Thank you @nicktheundoer - just wondering, if you think, or feel/believe... that this "numbness," that you're feeling in the brain... is it, or would you say that it is worse than the symptoms you are describing with your depression now? I do understand though, and can appreciate your sentiments--as I feel that it is an overly common one: not only with these types of medications; but for those with other psychiatric disorders as well. And so, my point being in all of this, is that it is 'okay,' for you to be this way. It's no problem at all, and very much fine indeed. Hopefully then, you can find some other remedy or treatment which can aid or assist you in your recoveries as you continue your travels. One last thought on the anti depressants, just going off the premise, or idea of "in case you weren't already aware," here's just a couple of things (maybe) worth considering, & that might be worth your time, should you find at some time down the line it's an option or an avenue for you worth further exploration: There are six classes of drugs under the anti depressant umbrella.
Drugs used for the treatment of depression include the following.
Footnote: I take no antidepressants whatsoever. I used to. Had my shrink not retired, maybe I still would be. For instance, his replacement, freaked out when he saw the dosages my previous guy had had me on. So his first order of business was to tell me that/or how uncomfortable this made him feel, and that there was no chance on earth, that I'd ever be receiving/or getting the same under his watchful eye & care. He dropped me, maybe after I'd missed my 2nd... or was it (the) 3rd appt.? Anyway. . : ) Peace~
Drugs used for the treatment of depression include the following.
- Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs)
- Serotonin/Norepinephrine Reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs)
- Atypical Antidepressants.
- Serotonin Modulators.
- Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCAs)
- Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs)
- NMDA Antagonists.
- Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). Health care providers often start by prescribing an SSRI. These antidepressants generally cause fewer bothersome side effects and are less likely to cause problems at higher therapeutic doses than other types of antidepressants. SSRIs include fluoxetine (Prozac), paroxetine (Paxil, Pexeva), sertraline (Zoloft), citalopram (Celexa) and escitalopram (Lexapro).
- Serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs). Examples of SNRIs include duloxetine (Cymbalta, Drizalma Sprinkle), venlafaxine (Effexor XR), desvenlafaxine (Pristiq) and levomilnacipran (Fetzima).
- Atypical antidepressants. These antidepressants are called atypical because they don't fit neatly into any of the other antidepressant categories. More-commonly prescribed antidepressants in this category include trazodone, mirtazapine (Remeron), vortioxetine (Trintellix), vilazodone (Viibryd) and bupropion (Forfivo XL, Wellbutrin SR, others). Bupropion is one of the few antidepressants not frequently associated with sexual side effects.
- Tricyclic antidepressants. Tricyclic antidepressants — such as imipramine, nortriptyline (Pamelor), amitriptyline, doxepin and desipramine (Norpramin) — tend to cause more side effects than newer antidepressants. So tricyclic antidepressants generally aren't prescribed unless you've tried other antidepressants first without improvement.
- Monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs). MAOIs — such as tranylcypromine (Parnate), phenelzine (Nardil) and isocarboxazid (Marplan) — may be prescribed, often when other medicines haven't worked. This is because they can have serious side effects. Using an MAOI requires a strict diet because of dangerous (or even deadly) interactions with foods that contain tyramine — such as certain cheeses, pickles and wines — and some medicines, including pain medicines, decongestants and certain herbal supplements. Selegiline (Emsam), an MAOI that you stick on your skin as a patch, may cause fewer side effects than other MAOIs. These medicines can't be combined with SSRIs or other medicines that increase serotonin.
- Other medications. Your health care provider may recommend combining two antidepressants. Or your provider may add other medicines to improve antidepressant effects. This is called augmentation. Examples of antidepressant augmentation medicines include aripiprazole (Abilify), quetiapine (Seroquel) and lithium (Lithobid).
Footnote: I take no antidepressants whatsoever. I used to. Had my shrink not retired, maybe I still would be. For instance, his replacement, freaked out when he saw the dosages my previous guy had had me on. So his first order of business was to tell me that/or how uncomfortable this made him feel, and that there was no chance on earth, that I'd ever be receiving/or getting the same under his watchful eye & care. He dropped me, maybe after I'd missed my 2nd... or was it (the) 3rd appt.? Anyway. . : ) Peace~
Of course they do, is also what I meant to say earlier/or before, in case I hadn't already done so. How many times have we seen celebrities, or the rich & famous, or just others that we know have nothing but the best when it comes to loving families, and successful careers, or whatever else (that might be attached) -- & then, seemingly no faults to be found (or flaws). They still suffer from this dreaded and often (or some) times "crippling," disease.
So it knows no bounds, and has no biases. And it can have nothing to do with any necessary 'reason,' sad or hard as that may be to realize & to consider... when you really get right on down to it. How much are we really in control of all of this? Sometimes, you've got to question, and you've got to wonder~ / but there is always hope. Until you say or concede that there isn't (anymore). So fear not, bleak as it may seem.
One thing I might suggest, is to try to do something else, and that is to say... something different, than what you're doing now (that is not doing enough, or making a meaningful & noticable enough change for you to be or feel reasonably happy) - so in other words, what you're trying now, is coming up short. And that/or those best efforts, need to be revised or revisited, adjusted & adapted. For just keeping things the same, may unfortunately only yield the same (results).
Just out-loud thoughts, coming out of my head. . . in the middle of the night! Now is it really supposed to be 4 in the a. m.? Or is it really 5 (by my body's clock!) & mind, and so on, and so forth. . ? Maybe it is really 3! No, no - I doubt this, & very sincerely and severely so~ // unless the daylight savings doesn't begin until to morrow? It's really hard to tell, or know, which end is up - sometimes, around here... ; )
So it knows no bounds, and has no biases. And it can have nothing to do with any necessary 'reason,' sad or hard as that may be to realize & to consider... when you really get right on down to it. How much are we really in control of all of this? Sometimes, you've got to question, and you've got to wonder~ / but there is always hope. Until you say or concede that there isn't (anymore). So fear not, bleak as it may seem.
One thing I might suggest, is to try to do something else, and that is to say... something different, than what you're doing now (that is not doing enough, or making a meaningful & noticable enough change for you to be or feel reasonably happy) - so in other words, what you're trying now, is coming up short. And that/or those best efforts, need to be revised or revisited, adjusted & adapted. For just keeping things the same, may unfortunately only yield the same (results).
Just out-loud thoughts, coming out of my head. . . in the middle of the night! Now is it really supposed to be 4 in the a. m.? Or is it really 5 (by my body's clock!) & mind, and so on, and so forth. . ? Maybe it is really 3! No, no - I doubt this, & very sincerely and severely so~ // unless the daylight savings doesn't begin until to morrow? It's really hard to tell, or know, which end is up - sometimes, around here... ; )
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They think they can show up on someone's doorstep, uninvited and unwanted, force their way in, break stuff, shit all over the place, burn the house to the ground, and expect the person to go along with what they've done?
The way I feel about them is what the main character in Dances with wolves said to his captors. They are not worthy.
Not worthy. Not on my level.
The way I feel about them is what the main character in Dances with wolves said to his captors. They are not worthy.
Not worthy. Not on my level.
Probation gives me so much anxiety- I literally lost no of counts for hyperventilating and crying in the toilet for a breather. The pressure to succeed is scary however nice my colleagues could be.The manager had promise me that I could be promoted after working experience for almost 2 years in same line yet I have to go through this. I am only daring to open up now only cause I made it through the first month when I could have not been accepted before contract... Only two months left. As long as I am never late for work, deliver it well and continuously ask for feedback, however much I'm nervous to make mistakes or every mistakes I made got me second guessing everytime I'm off from work. I made through first round but I worry abt the ending. 🫠 My friends has been calling me and messaging me on my MIA. But sis probation literally shuts me down, my thoughts switch off trying to please people.
