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Pebble mouse

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I'm worried about my dad. He nearly had a (third) car accident today. If he had been 3 seconds slower, there would have been a side-on collision. Also, he could not remember the unit I lived in for several years before I moved to where I am now. He is 91 in December. I know slowing down is normal, but I am very concerned about his safety (and that of others) while driving in particular.
 
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Harmony

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@Windhover sorry, the above reply was for you. I'm so out of it that I didn't tag you.

Having a sense of stability as regards emotion is - I don't know how else to say it except precious.
It really is. I also think that this is not easily recognized by an individual who has never been in the throes of anything that deviates from the usual in that regard. I may look into peer/group therapy, but it's going to be a while.
 
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Angie

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I still can't help but wonder if EMDR made me worse. This past month has been hell on earth emotionally. Maybe I shouldn't look for a definitive cause. Maybe it's things getting a lot worse before they get better. Wish I knew. I just can't take it anymore.
For me, EMDR brought a horrible memory to mind. I spent months just dealing with that memory.

I won't do EMDR again.
 

LumberJack

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For me, EMDR brought a horrible memory to mind. I spent months just dealing with that memory.

I won't do EMDR again.
It sounds like your therapist failed to teach you containment skills before starting the EMDR bilateral stimulation (processing) part. Containment means that you are able to "unpack" things in manageable chunks, and put them back away at the end of the session. The point is that it keeps this work from taking place outside the therapist's office.

My experience with EMDR was very helpful, but I don't think it would have been if my therapist hadn't spent weeks with me on learning containment beforehand. My situation was that I had recently moved out on my own, and then all the PTSD got started. EMDR helped with the most overt symptoms such as: hypervigilance, frequent nightmares, and excessive emotional reactivity/poor affect tolerance. My traumatic experiences were ongoing and started at a very early age. I'm not sure if EMDR would be as helpful for more like episodic traumas, such as a car accident or being robbed at gunpoint. SE (somatic experiencing) therapists do see clients for this type of healing.

What EMDR did NOT help with was learning the skills that I needed to know in order to form healthy relationships with others and generally keep myself out of jail. I learned these in CBT and currently SE, among other places.
 

LumberJack

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I'm worried about my dad. He nearly had a (third) car accident today. If he had been 3 seconds slower, there would have been a side-on collision. Also, he could not remember the unit I lived in for several years before I moved to where I am now. He is 91 in December. I know slowing down is normal, but I am very concerned about his safety (and that of others) while driving in particular.
91 is probably too old to be driving, IMHO. I realize this would probably be a hard sell to him, though. What I know from worked in the Operations dept at a large insurance carrier is that rates go up for drivers older than 85. Just like teenagers- mid 20s, octogenarians and older have more frequent collisions. It's not the same reason, but similar outcomes.
 

LumberJack

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After you wrote this, I attempted to tease out of my mind what that purpose might be, with no success. Well there is the obvious one of it sometimes triggering si; hopefully that's not you're getting at here. I thought perhaps I paint more when I am sad? No. Perhaps my artwork has more intensity or vitality when I am sad? No. Maybe I am more empathetic towards others when I am sad? Nope, because the depression detracts from my abilit to be attentive to others. Still I am open to your wisdom on the purpose of sadness.

Also, as I cannot go to the ocean the name seabird no longer makes sense, and have changed my Sf name to Windhover.

I feel I could handle things better if there was only the damage rather than the added, and complicated pain of loss and homesickness.

Maybe "purpose" was the wrong word. I don't mean to suggest that it would help with creativity or any other practical pursuit. I don't think I can explain a method for this insofar as I'm still figuring it out on my own end. The below is entirely about what the work is, or might be, and not anything about "how" to do that work because I am not qualified. ----

I can say for myself that grief has made me a better person, but not while I was in the midst of it. Better in the sense of having more clarity about my values, and a new perspective about what is truly important (hint: not a whole lot). I'm softer, as in open to sharing with others and I do have more empathy. I mean empathy is pretty much the end result of dealing with life's shitty situations - so now I can relate to others who have lost a spouse better than someone who does not have that type of experience.

But this being said, it's not the case that this happens instantly. It was only after I got through the initial shock and grief, and learned how to cope with the ongoing grief, that I started to see how my experience could be used to help others.

I would say that it's a terrible idea to cultivate sadness, as in seeking out opportunities to be sad so as to develop our personal strengths. There are exceptions to this, but not for people outside certain monastic communities. For god's sake, life gives us more than enough adversity already!

Life is a mixed bag for the vast majority of people. We get some things that we want, and we also get things that we don't want. We don't get everything we don't want, though, just as we don't get everything we do want. We already know how to deal with it when we get what we want, because we already had the intrinsic motivation to seek that out. When I say shitty situations, I'm talking about when life gives us what we don't want and when we don't get what we do want. This is shit, but shit can be used as fertilizer. In writing about this, I want to acknowledge that I'm borrowing a lot from one of my favorite Buddhist teachers known as Ajahn Brahm. It was through working with his talks and writings that I came to the place where I am, though, so it's also from my own experience.

In dealing with shit, my "yeah, but" engine goes into gear. My most frequent refrain is, "What if I don't want to be a gardener? WTF am I supposed to use shit for then?" The answer is that it's a metaphor in the first place so expecting to use it for a literal garden is a confused perspective. The understanding that I have for now, is that nothing life hands us is inherently good or bad. It's what we wanted in the first place that we compare against to make such evaluations. Loss and pain are definitely adversity, though. I'm not sure quite how to explain it in words yet - this is an abstract concept for me that I normally think about in non-linear mental models, which is hard to express in linear language.

In contemplating and testing these ideas, I have had the insight that, even pain and loss can be used to grow ourselves, but only if we decide to figure out how to use it. That's what I meant about not being good or bad inherently. I'm currently imagining the skill of finding ways to transmute shitty situations into growth as a spiritual jiu-jitsu practice, meaning that we need to wrestle our "opponents" such as the adversity and our reactions of rightly feeling that as adversity. Once we have gotten ourselves into a place that allows us to look at it neutrally and consider that it might be leveraged in some way to our benefit and to our ability to help others, then the possibilities open up. It might not be something we had intended to learn, as in making you a better artist, but it can definitely be something "life" wants us to learn along the way.

If I were in your place, and I am in a similar spot dealing with my resentment issues, I would be working with a therapist on this - but not with a box-checking, fill in the codes for the insurance forms, type of therapist. It would need to be someone trustworthy and not only willing, but expecting, to be more of a consultant than a provider. I'm lucky in that I stumbled into this by getting advice from friends about a good therapist to go to. Otherwise it would have been a lot of trial and error before I found someone compatible.

Sorry that was so long. LMK if you want a TL;DR version, lol.
 

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NGL sometimes I read too quickly, and I thought it was "WindhOOver" until you mentioned it being the name of a bird. I don't know too much about birds unless they are local to me. Except that I adore Ravens and Crows... from a distance. plus they are ultra-goth, lol

Anyway I thought it meant something like Hoovering up the wind, and that's a neat visual for me. Also it is nearly impossible to visualize. I love a challenge, lol.
I kind of like Windhoover - seems like it should be a magical instrument in a children's story, for managing breezes.
 
how I feel... I'm oscillating, (just fyi I got the spelling of that word correct on the first try, so give me a degree or someth). If I think about certain things I feel dark, cold shadows reach out and clutch my heart. Then I sigh and inquire into what I need at that moment. It's usually a snack or hydration. I'm very simple (maybe dense).
Let's go with simple. We are all dense, lol.......Love the word too....lots of imagery with it.....
 
wireless... but plug into the Mac and not the phone? Is it possible the Mac has a regular jack and the phone expects a lightning connection?

IIRC there is a Lightning to 3.5mm (aka 1/8 inch, typical stereo plugs) adapter, so you plug the headphones into it and put the other end in whatever is expecting a Lightning connection. I feel you on the discomfort. I have not figured out how to keep my jaw from clenching and my teeth from grinding for any significant period of time. The motion of which works things out of the ear canal, because evolution uses the same mechanism to keep earwax moving outward. What this looks like for me is every minute or so I'm jamming the earbuds back into my ear cartilage to figure out how to keep them seated, which leads to major discomfort if I wear them for more than about an hr or so without taking them out. I loove audio equipment though - so lmk if you want to compare and contrast different models. I just hate shopping for my own because I get paralyzed by so many options.
I bought a second pair 6 months after the first. My reason for never wearing them appear to be the same as yours and the discomforts. The first pair which I have do not have cushions on the hard plastic and I could not purchase them to add on from anyone anywhere. So I bought the second set and they were more comfortable, still not ever seating well in my little ear holes, lol. Dontcha know I'd lose the more expensive pair.....Never again.....and yes there is a hole for the old wired ear thingies (professional description:))in my 2 year old Mac........and I agree, too many dang options skew my mind at times.
 

Windhover

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I'm worried about my dad. He nearly had a (third) car accident today. If he had been 3 seconds slower, there would have been a side-on collision. Also, he could not remember the unit I lived in for several years before I moved to where I am now. He is 91 in December. I know slowing down is normal, but I am very concerned about his safety (and that of others) while driving in particular.
Sorry this is so hard Pebble mouse. I'm glad the accident didn't happen. And, I hope you're not in the car with him from now on. It's a common issue. If he lives somewhere without a bus stop close-by, it'll be a really difficult set of changes for him without a car. Sydney has a pretty thorough transportation system - and seniors get to ride pretty much free, right?
I agree: it's not good if you're constantly worried disaster is about to happen.
 

Pebble mouse

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91 is probably too old to be driving, IMHO. I realize this would probably be a hard sell to him, though
I agree. My sister tried talking to him a few years ago (I just spoke with her this afternoon). We are going to talk to him together.

Sorry this is so hard Pebble mouse. I'm glad the accident didn't happen. And, I hope you're not in the car with him from now on. It's a common issue. If he lives somewhere without a bus stop close-by, it'll be a really difficult set of changes for him without a car. Sydney has a pretty thorough transportation system - and seniors get to ride pretty much free, right?
Both my sister and I believe he should sell up and move into a retirement village. There is no bus stop near where he is. He was actually meant to move into a retirement village a few years ago, but changed his mind at the last minute. We are both very concerned not only for his safety, but for others as well.
 

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I feel trapped in my situation and dont see a way out of it. I have recently worked hard on having a fulfilling life, which needs constant attention but the end story is the same. It won't be worth living if im stuck with someone who isn't a good match. Sorry if this is blunt, but I feel the need to be truthful. Its like this nagging thought hanging over me. I know that I've preached there's solutions to bad situations, but I cant see my way out of this one.
 
I feel trapped in my situation and dont see a way out of it. I have recently worked hard on having a fulfilling life, which needs constant attention but the end story is the same. It won't be worth living if im stuck with someone who isn't a good match. Sorry if this is blunt, but I feel the need to be truthful. Its like this nagging thought hanging over me. I know that I've preached there's solutions to bad situations, but I cant see my way out of this one.
🩷✨🩷I felt this way just recently for quite awhile and internal and a few external changes have happened, not all but enough to give me some movement and open some different perspective. And of course it ain’t easy by any means to show up every day most of the time. I have faith in you. I’m sorry to hear your recent awarenesses are a mix of sadness but happy you are taking care of yourself at the same time.and Please! keep sharing your wisdoms too, it’s not preaching ever🌹you are a hard worker…..Don’t give up🦋
 
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AvidFan

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I feel trapped in my situation and dont see a way out of it. I have recently worked hard on having a fulfilling life, which needs constant attention but the end story is the same. It won't be worth living if im stuck with someone who isn't a good match. Sorry if this is blunt, but I feel the need to be truthful. Its like this nagging thought hanging over me. I know that I've preached there's solutions to bad situations, but I cant see my way out of this one.
I hope there is a way forward that works out well for you. Sometimes we don't see it until it's there, but it's not good feeling trapped. I hope you feel less trapped soon!
 

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