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Love dolls helping people cope with loneliness

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Darken

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#21
I don't think sex toys alienate you from society. I mean people masturbate anyways. It is a bit creepy to talk to unliving objects like some doll owners do I read. Some people feel its better to have some thing rather than nothing also. If a person believes that they probably will never find a partner, thats another reason to get one. Strange how their is so many humans around yet it's so hard to find some one and make the relationship last. oh well...
 

Esmeralda

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Yeah, I agree about the sex toy thing. But yes, talking to your doll and giving her a personality and eating dinner with it and stuff seems to have kind of a serial-killer vibe to me. Ands it's really not that hard to find someone necessarily. I mean, I know people who were single for ages and found the love of their life on Match.com, so it's far from hopeless. I just think that doing this whole doll thing is really throwing in the towel on ever having a real relationship, which is a terrible shame, because there is someone out there for everyone, even if it takes years to find them.
 

Will

Staff Alumni
#26
Love Dolls themselves seems like the closest way someone could relieve severe loneliness and deep social problems. If they 'rarely - if ever' have intercourse with them, it just shows it's a very deep psychological problem. At the same time, that doesn't mean that they are dangerous to society, however it definitly isn't healthy. I feel sorry for anyone who might have to satisfy their empty hearts with things like this.

While is commonly judged that anything out of the normal is 'psycho', that's not to say these people are. There was something in the newspaper awhile back, that there was a man who had turned a young girl into a vegetable. No, not one you consume, rather a living, breathing, yet unconscious human. Apparently he was in his late thirties, and had severe socia problems. He had some of these 'doll's, however it gone awry when he chose a real person to become a vegetable.

I don't remember EXACTLY what it said, but I believe he made a cavitiy in the victims head, and poured a hot liquid over it. Something along the lines of that left the being alive, breathing, but unable to act, talk, think, or move on their own. Rather, it's just a doll like others, except it's a real human. I don't remember what he was charged with. It was some time ago.

Regardless, I believe that if anyone has to buy one of these to numb the pain they feel, I don't believe they are 'blood thirsty serial killer', yet just someone in great need. Though I'm not saying what that man did in that incident was right, because he took someone's life away.

These dolls seem like a safer way to cure those feelings of loneliness, however it will only ever be cured with genuine human contact. But the way the world views and makes things appear, it's very difficult for some people to fit in. It's painful think about, what those people must go through.

Every minute of everyday, knowing there ain't any smiles coming your way.
 
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Aquariamethystea

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I think real dolls are a good thing, because they are a step into the direction of having animated life-like artificial people, which is a very good thing. I think it is important that science develops an artificial person for the companionship of those who have difficulty in relationships with real people. I'd buy one, if it meant having a girl who didn't have all sorts of mental instability issues which she would deliberately hurt me with, a girl who would actually be here for me and wouldn't lie to me about how she feels about me. The girl I would have would be able to move on it's own and able to help me get around better than I currently am, considering my disability. I could go places with her, in which she could hold me from falling over, help me up from when I do fall down, and she could help me with difficult tasks for when my disability worsens and I need the extra support.

There are so many sexual benefits to having an artificial person compared to a real one. It lowers the amount of STDs going around, stops unwanted pregnancies, and might even cut down on the number of sexual abuse acts. There are so many more as well, I could type a very long post about them. I won't though. However, until they are animated and life-like, I don't think these "real dolls" are going to be adequate replacement for humans, though once they actually become "real", then definitely. In the meantime, at least the real dolls make some people happy.
 

Esmeralda

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#29
I think real dolls are a good thing, because they are a step into the direction of having animated life-like artificial people, which is a very good thing. I think it is important that science develops an artificial person for the companionship of those who have difficulty in relationships with real people. I'd buy one, if it meant having a girl who didn't have all sorts of mental instability issues which she would deliberately hurt me with, a girl who would actually be here for me and wouldn't lie to me about how she feels about me. The girl I would have would be able to move on it's own and able to help me get around better than I currently am, considering my disability. I could go places with her, in which she could hold me from falling over, help me up from when I do fall down, and she could help me with difficult tasks for when my disability worsens and I need the extra support.

There are so many sexual benefits to having an artificial person compared to a real one. It lowers the amount of STDs going around, stops unwanted pregnancies, and might even cut down on the number of sexual abuse acts. There are so many more as well, I could type a very long post about them. I won't though. However, until they are animated and life-like, I don't think these "real dolls" are going to be adequate replacement for humans, though once they actually become "real", then definitely. In the meantime, at least the real dolls make some people happy.
But it's not a REAL person! Love and relationships, and everything they entail involve joy AND pain. Heartache is a part of that. But so is the intense emotional bond that can only come from a real human being. Sex toys are one thing. They are a means to a very specific sexual end, not a replacement for real human companionship. Using a doll or a robot or whatever to replace or supplement human contact and relationships indicates something more serious. Maybe you need that doll because you don't really WANT a relationship with someone real, someone who has real emotions and real problems. Someone who might be hurting, but who also might hurt you at some point as well.

BP, it sounds like by buying into this whole doll as a replacement for a relationship thing, you are basically saying that YOU are the one who is emotionally unavailable, not other people. It is all about YOUR needs and emotions and the need to vent those feelings without the "intrusion" of another person's needs and desires. I mean, it's one thing to use these things as fuck dolls, but to actually become emotionally involved with an inanimate object seems to indicate that all you need is some"thing" to pour your emotions into without having to give anything back.
 
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Aquariamethystea

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But it's not a REAL person! Love and relationships, and everything they entail involve joy AND pain. Heartache is a part of that. But so is the intense emotional bond that can only come from a real human being. Sex toys are one thing. They are a means to a very specific sexual end, not a replacement for real human companionship. Using a doll or a robot or whatever to replace or supplement human contact and relationships indicates something more serious. Maybe you need that doll because you don't really WANT a relationship with someone real, someone who has real emotions and real problems. Someone who might be hurting, but who also might hurt you at some point as well.

BP, it sounds like by buying into this whole doll as a replacement for a relationship thing, you are basically saying that YOU are the one who is emotionally unavailable, not other people. It is all about YOUR needs and emotions and the need to vent those feelings without the "intrusion" of another person's needs and desires. I mean, it's one thing to use these things as fuck dolls, but to actually become emotionally involved with an inanimate object seems to indicate that all you need is some"thing" to pour your emotions into without having to give anything back.

Anastasia, I am not buying into the idea of having a doll as a human replacement. What I am saying is that, as sex toys, these dolls are important to have in existance, not only so men can have something which helps make them feel better sexually, but also so that the dolls can be improved upon. With further development, these dolls will lead their developers into creating lifelike, robotic people, who will be able to emotionally connect with people, like in the movie "Bicentennial Man", which happens to be my favorite movie.

I am very offended by your attacking me, claiming that I don't want a real relationship, etc. I was in a four-month relationship with someone who hurt me very badly, that relationship ended last month. Also, I was in a one-month relationship with someone in February, who also hurt me very badly. I don't need a doll to replace anyone, but if there is a lifelike, robotic person who could be with me not only to help me with my emotional, romantic, and sexual needs, but also can help me cope better with my physical disability, without bragging, nagging, lying, and deceiving me, then I'd much rather have that than an evil, manipulative woman.
 

Nessarose

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#31
It does seem...creepy. Writing about characters is one thing, if it's not for escapism, but attempting to create a relationship with something that isn't alive doesn't make sense to me. I know it's a form of avoidance, and that's a problem with which I struggle myself, but I don't think those dolls will solve anything. I can understand attachment to material objects, but not connecting to them on an emotional level.
 

Esmeralda

Well-Known Member
#32
Anastasia, I am not buying into the idea of having a doll as a human replacement. What I am saying is that, as sex toys, these dolls are important to have in existance, not only so men can have something which helps make them feel better sexually, but also so that the dolls can be improved upon. With further development, these dolls will lead their developers into creating lifelike, robotic people, who will be able to emotionally connect with people, like in the movie "Bicentennial Man", which happens to be my favorite movie.

I am very offended by your attacking me, claiming that I don't want a real relationship, etc. I was in a four-month relationship with someone who hurt me very badly, that relationship ended last month. Also, I was in a one-month relationship with someone in February, who also hurt me very badly. I don't need a doll to replace anyone, but if there is a lifelike, robotic person who could be with me not only to help me with my emotional, romantic, and sexual needs, but also can help me cope better with my physical disability, without bragging, nagging, lying, and deceiving me, then I'd much rather have that than an evil, manipulative woman.
First of all, it was not a personal attack, just an observation about how you seem to want all the good things about a relationship without having to deal with any of the difficulties. It sounds like you want someone to tend to all of YOUR physical and emotional needs without having to deal with anyone else's problems, insecurities, etc. Everything you said points only to your needs. Relationships are a 2-way street. I'm very sorry you've been hurt in the past. That sucks, but that's no excuse to just throw in the towel on love in general. I'm sure you can find a girl out there who is not an android but who also won't lie and manipulate you. However, she, like anyone else, is going to have her own problems and baggage that she will need your help with from time-to-time. I mean, wouldn't you say that one great thing about relationships is the idea that you are NEEDED? An android cannot provide that, nor could an android ever provide you with real love. At the very best, an android would provide a pantomime of love without ever actually feeling it. Why settle for that when there is so much more out there? Sure, you risk a broken heart, but NOTHING great and worthwhile was ever accomplished without risk.
 
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Aquariamethystea

#33
First of all, it was not a personal attack, just an observation about how you seem to want all the good things about a relationship without having to deal with any of the difficulties. It sounds like you want someone to tend to all of YOUR physical and emotional needs without having to deal with anyone else's problems, insecurities, etc. Everything you said points only to your needs. Relationships are a 2-way street. I'm very sorry you've been hurt in the past. That sucks, but that's no excuse to just throw in the towel on love in general. I'm sure you can find a girl out there who is not an android but who also won't lie and manipulate you. However, she, like anyone else, is going to have her own problems and baggage that she will need your help with from time-to-time. I mean, wouldn't you say that one great thing about relationships is the idea that you are NEEDED? An android cannot provide that, nor could an android ever provide you with real love. At the very best, an android would provide a pantomime of love without ever actually feeling it. Why settle for that when there is so much more out there? Sure, you risk a broken heart, but NOTHING great and worthwhile was ever accomplished without risk.

You know what really hurts? Having a girl tell you she is breaking up with you, though she only is doing it so she can improve herself for you, then she will go back with you when she is ready to, and that you are the only person she wants. Then, to wait several days, not hearing from her, worrying about her, and having your friends tell you that you should call her to see if she is okay. Then when you call, her brother answers and tells you she is not home, that she is visiting her boyfriend. That is what happened to me. I have been hurt so many times by women, it's sickening. I'd rather have an android female who wouldn't do this to me.
 

Darken

Well-Known Member
#34
i don't even want a girl friend i realized that.true love isn't real and love doesn't make life or the world change. dunno..but its all just a temporary game , some last longer than other big deal, they all end eventually. its all jsut about reproduction and ya know social darwinism and survival of the fittest. the most attractive people are the most likely to breed. love is just about sexual attraction and looks than any thing else. thats all it is. true love would happen wether there was good physical fitness and sexuality. but it rarely does. id only have a android to fuck and make do chores for me. when it was not doing those things it would stay in the closet probably lol. ya piece of shit adroid damn you..
 
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Aquariamethystea

#35
i don't even want a girl friend i realized that.true love isn't real and love doesn't make life or the world change. dunno..but its all just a temporary game , some last longer than other big deal, they all end eventually. its all jsut about reproduction and ya know social darwinism and survival of the fittest. the most attractive people are the most likely to breed. love is just about sexual attraction and looks than any thing else. thats all it is. true love would happen wether there was good physical fitness and sexuality. but it rarely does. id only have a android to fuck and make do chores for me. when it was not doing those things it would stay in the closet probably lol. ya piece of shit adroid damn you..

LOL!!! I like your post, Darken. I agree with you. For me, love lasts until the person I love starts acting very weirdly and she says shit which causes me to be paranoid. An android female would be great for me at all times, with the only annoyance being the long power cord which I'd have to worry about tripping over.
 
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Aquariamethystea

#38
I love the idea of androids so much, I might make a thread about them, if I ever find time to type every possible good thing about them. There are so many good things about them, it'll take a while to list and explain.
 
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