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Amanda

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I have had the police come a number of times due to different mental health issues that I have had. The first time I was threatening and a fried called the police came ascertained that I was okay after speaking with me and then they left.

The second time I had attempted and was dying and the police came and luckily for me they saved my life by calling an ambulance.

The third and most recent time I had told someone at university that I was planning on it and they came and detained me in the middle of an English lecture, which was rather embarrassing but, all in all I have received awesome treatment from the RCMP... I have no complaints.
 

Underground

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#82
Hey. Here's a new one from me. Just need to rant a bit really, and this seems to be the most appropriate thread to do it, so bear with me, this will be quite long. My body is still all bruised and painful now, so it's on my mind a lot:

I'm not 100% sure if you could call it mental health related police encounter, even though there was depressive/suicidal reasons underlining why I drank and I had a Mental Health Assessment in the end anyway and was on suicide watch in an obs ward/room/thing, but I was sort of 'arrested' the other night for being Drunk & Incapable. The reason I say that, is because that is what I was told, but what really happened was I was strapped down in an Ambulance with police assistance (2 gung-ho officers who loved every second of it) and taken to that ward.

Now, although I was drunk, I remember most of what happened, and to a lesser extent, what was said by who. I remember looking for my key on this lawn after going out for a run after drinking a bottle cream sherry and some wine and then I remember being woken up (in my own vomit, ew) two officers and seeing flashing lights from an ambulance, now this has only kinda got back to me, but I remember sort of trying to get up and walk away, but the two officers just pushed me on the floor and I swear one kept his foot over me (I don't know if this is a false memory or if it did happen, my recollection is extremely weak at this point). This is where I went into the Ambulance (or was rather carried). During the trip, as I said, I was strapped in, and had some amazingly random conversations with the coppers about the army and it turns out one of them is an ex Royal Military Policeman (probably explains why he was so 'tough guy' like), and I think I said something about finding him hot or sexy or something, which I'm ashamed of now, partly because it turns out he was a proper c*nt. I kept trying to get out I think, but only to be restrained by everyone, so meh. At the hospital, I was held down on some bed in the obs ward by the two police officers, and they got extremely nasty. Like laughing about me and stuff. Being dead patronising. I hated being there, and when you're intoxicated, you're more confident I guess, so I kept trying to leave, only to be pinned back down on the bed by police + security several times, and two of the nurses were dead bitchy/sarcastic/patronising to me, like one quote I recall "Stop being a silly little girl, grow up and act your age (18)" and I was told I was being selfish and disturbing other patients. When I was getting my b/p taken, the two officers, and I remember this clear as day, held my hands by the wrists and knuckles in some sort of restraint tactic and told me that if I didn't shut up or fidget, they'd apply different "thresholds" of pain, and gave me an 'example' of it, and they both laughed about it. Then I remember asking/saying something about them getting off on doing it, and I swear one of the replies I got was "I do. I love my job for the fact I get to do things like this and lock up people, its why I joined the police." he weren't being sarcastic, because not only did he laugh, he then bent my wrist back really hard and made me scream to stop him and asked me if I wanted him to go to a "different" threshold. His colleague laughed, as did the security, and the nurses/other staff didn't give a damn either.

Then I remember I was was handcuffed to the bed railings at eachside and left in the room. I remember trying to chew through one of the cuffs and them laughing at me, then I was threatened with arrest for being drunk & disorderly and assault, but thankfully they never. They left soon after that (Thank God!), but I was then treated like crap by the security guards (getting pushed on the floor, my face was pushed against the wall, etc whenever I tried to escape, which I actually managed, but I was dragged to the room) and I was told I was just being an "attention seeker" and stuff. I don't really know who was worse, the police or the security or some of the staff there. None of this goes on my records because they never got my name til hours later, but I'm a bit miffed at the medical report, which was read during my MHA assessment (triggered by the fact that I begged the police to get armed police to shoot me) that said I was being "abusive to staff" and "resistant to treatment". I'm not an aggressive drunk.. just defensive, so God knows. I spoke to the police after I got home from the hospital, but that was because I officially went 'missing' during the hours I was detained at hospital, and they had no clue about what happened, which enhances my belief that the police involved didn't bother even writing up a report, so nothing was recorded against me I guess, which is a relief. I was bricking it when they said they wanted to talk to me "urgently" though, I thought I was gonna get arrested for what had happened earlier, but they turned out to be extremely friendly/concerned, so I suppose that restored my respect for the police a little bit, because during that episode, I could swear I was beginning to actually hate them. I understand that the 'general public' have no sympathy or time for 'drunken nuissances', and you know what, I generally agree, but I don't see any excuse for the belitting/borderline abusive behaviour I got from any of them. I may have been drunk (maybe not as 'incapable' as they made out), but I remember what happened, and I did not threaten or verbally/physically abuse anyone there, I only ever returned insults or lifted my hands up to attempt to defend myself, and not assault anyone. That's the first time I've been drunk in what.. 13 months? So it's not like I make a habit of it either, heh.
 

total eclipse

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#83
I believe every word you say because i have seen first hand how police make fun of alcoholics how they abuse people and get away with it it sickens me.
 

kote

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#84
its no different here in japan. 8 coppers and beatings. ive given up and once they start so do i. someone is going to get hurt if they start trying to bully me. im not sure if they're being racist or do this to everyone or even just me. now i dont go out and drink as the coppers always get involved. its no use fighting the system.
even being diabetic - which with low blood sugar makes you look and act drunk - although you shouldnt be drinking anyway as this too lowers your blood sugar.
they didnt care!!! maybe im a bad one and deserve such treatments. either way i see it as a human to human problem. just because they are in uniform shouldnt give them the right to abuse the extra powers theyve been given.
 

Underground

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I believe every word you say because i have seen first hand how police make fun of alcoholics how they abuse people and get away with it it sickens me.
Tbh on your point about drunks/alcoholics, for some reason, I have an inkling that they were thinking I'd forget all about it anyway - they were okay to me once I was sobering up, but then the staff changed, and the new security guard was alright to me and offered me a drink. He was a lot younger than the thugs that were there earlier that night. Anyhow, I've been recommended to persue a complaint, but with about 90% happening in the obs room where there was no camera, and the flattering medical report about me, and being told I was having paranoid delusions, I'd lose as the odds are stacked against me I guess.

Eh, can't change the past now anyways I guess. I never want to be in that situation again, it was so risky, I could've been in deep doodles. I see why they did detain/restrain me, but its the rest of the stuff that went on that upsets me, because I usually have respect for the police and those doing their jobs, maybe unfair of me to have such an opinion drop from just 2, but then again I have met some coppers I haven't particularly liked before - like this female one when I was on a s.136 and one that indirectly accused me of being on drugs once, so I suppose the harsh reality it is the luck of the draw as someone said on this thread already.

its no different here in japan. 8 coppers and beatings. ive given up and once they start so do i. someone is going to get hurt if they start trying to bully me. im not sure if they're being racist or do this to everyone or even just me. now i dont go out and drink as the coppers always get involved. its no use fighting the system.
even being diabetic - which with low blood sugar makes you look and act drunk - although you shouldnt be drinking anyway as this too lowers your blood sugar.
they didnt care!!! maybe im a bad one and deserve such treatments. either way i see it as a human to human problem. just because they are in uniform shouldnt give them the right to abuse the extra powers theyve been given.
Racist? I am assuming you're not Japanese then (I could be wrong lol). But yes, diabetes is quite dangerous and from what I've seen/heard, it can affect your mental health quite a lot too. They should really, really call an ambulance in any case like this - mental health, drugs, alcohol, physical stuff like diabetes, etc. I suppose I was lucky to get an ambulance called on me, really.

Things like this would help to prevent deaths in police custody, as well.
 

kote

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im an english man having lived in japan for 13 years now.
telling them i was suicidal and diabetic did no good just got me a few more beating - those i could take as they got it back. but seriously they only started being nice when they decided to call my wife and ask her if i was suicidal and diabetic. then called both my drs. to check that i could take the medicine. all i needed was a little sugar and all theyd give me was water. they had a vending machine inside the station but NO!!!! anyway ive given up drinking out as i cant be bothered with another night in the cells. just for being white. im also getting too old for all the hastle.
 
#87
6 police men and women stormed my Student apartment after I sent an SMS to my ex-boyfriend saying "Goodbye and Good luck".

I was watching Television and it was rather disruptive. On the bright side, the residents did my dishes for me after that incident.
:)
 
#88
In Singapore, I was questioned by "mada" in a dark room after being spotted hanging around high rise buildings.
They were rather nice, merely reminding me that I was indeed blessed to have a good family, friends, university to attend.

The only disappointing thing was that I was handed over to my doctor. Who locked me up for a two weeks after that.

If you are ever caught in such a situation be calm and cohesive.
 

Underground

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6 police men and women stormed my Student apartment after I sent an SMS to my ex-boyfriend saying "Goodbye and Good luck".

I was watching Television and it was rather disruptive. On the bright side, the residents did my dishes for me after that incident.
:)
o_o very reactive. lol.

I don't think any UK police force would do that.
 
#90
One of my best friends in the world, Sam, drank a bottle of vodka and cut and burned herself last April. She texted my friend (and her ex, who cheated on her) that she was going to run herself off the cliff. I ran to my school counselor and she call Sam's house, and the police had just gotten there (my other friend had already called) but they left, even though Sam was yelling "F*CKIN' PIGS STAY OFF MY PROPERTY!" and her dad was holding her down.
Other times she would tell me and her two other girl friends that she was going to kill herself. Five times we called the police. The last time they got there too late. She ran her car into the Suicide Cliff. She lived, but we are all very upset about the lack of police action.
 
#91
In Singapore, I was questioned by "mada" in a dark room after being spotted hanging around high rise buildings.
They were rather nice, merely reminding me that I was indeed blessed to have a good family, friends, university to attend.

The only disappointing thing was that I was handed over to my doctor. Who locked me up for a two weeks after that.

If you are ever caught in such a situation be calm and cohesive.
hey,im from singapore. that's really what happened? oh gosh,horrible!!!
 

foolnomore

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#93
I only ever had one encounter with the police and they could not have been nicer.Police are just people and I suppose when someone is violent,aggresive or beligerent they get scared and more so if the person is irrational too. I am never agressive or violent but sometimes my thinking is not rational especially when I am feeling suicidal
 

total eclipse

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#94
it doesn't matter if they are afraid they are trained to deal with people I get afraid too but iam not allowed to use such force and do such harm to people there are better ways to deal with someone that is mentally ill Now if they had a weapon okay but if they are not armed then why the hell do they have to be beaten up pisses me off it really does
 

Underground

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I kind of agree with Eclipse, actually. But as long as they're nice and they try they're best, it's all good. All force the police use should be 'reasonable force' and nothing more.

I had another experience of the police today. They were so nice compared to last time. I suppose it's because I was compliant and didn't try and do a runner from them.

http://behind-the-scenes-goldenpsych.blogspot.com/2011/08/police.html

Is more info about how I was treated!

x
I'm glad that went really well. :)
 

meme333

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I had the police involved when they removed me from my childhood home.
This was many years ago obviously.
I was beaten pretty severely this one time and actually went to school whereas normally I wouldn't.
Teachers found out the home situation but since I was over 16 I couldn't be helped.
I was too afraid to leave and had an eating disorder etc etc.
Finally I told a teacher I wanted to die and well they took that as their go ahead to get me out.
it was hell though. Police showed up and saying they were taking me to keep me safe...they just used my threat as an excuse. They arrested him, released him and took me to a psych ward. Didn't let anyone see me. Told me I couldn't leave. I got upset and the nicest nurse said to me "don't let them see you upset" She was trying to help and said I shouldn't be there. Finally the doc said I could go but then was taken to a women's shelter. All alone.
Back to the thread topic,....the police taking me away were very mean to me. Followed me everywhere like I was bad, wouldn't let my sister come and be with me....lots of stuff. It was awful. Not that my sister and I were close but I was scared and she was my sister but no. I haven't seen her in 15 years anyways now. They were awful though.
I got along awfully with the one police officer. She kept saying "I know you don't like me"...whatever...she was the mean one. She would say that she believed some of what I was saying but not everything. How could I like her?
 

Shock

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#97
Hi there,

Im from Australia and the when I was seeking support from life line during a crisis they called the police who found me parked in my car (must have triangulated my phone some how).

Although I wasnt doing anything - just talking on the phone - they ran up and opened my doors and went through all my stuff. Previously thought they would need a warrant to do that but I guess not when its a possible suicide.

At first they just shot out a lot of questions at me, unemotionally, frisked me and everything, went through my wallet and all. Then one of them went to their car to radio about something and while I waited I asked the one of the others if I should be flattered that they sent 3 guys for me. I meant it as a kind of joke to sort of break the tension but he may have taken it the wrong way cause he said "I've had enough of your shit. I would rather be at home right now.". It might have sounded a bit smart ass though I didnt mean it to. Didnt say much after that but they did try to make a bit of small talk while we waited. Though I protested politely they took me involuntarily to the hospital...I had to give directions which I thought kind of funny.

Overall they were neither nice nor rude. Just very utilitarian and unemotional, which is good I suppose
 
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Entoloma43

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It's absurd the police are even allowed involvement.

Aslong as you're not harming someone else, you should be able to do whatever you want to yourself. This is a basic freedom: freedom of your own body.
 

Shock

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It's absurd the police are even allowed involvement.

Aslong as you're not harming someone else, you should be able to do whatever you want to yourself. This is a basic freedom: freedom of your own body.
Agreed! - But Ive often puzzled the motives for the state has for taking these actions. I'm pretty sure it would be financial. I bet someone somewhere has done the maths and decided its worth sending cops out to stop suicides as they would loose another person in the work force and thus another person to tax (as well as time off for those possibly grieving). They would have decided that its more cost effective to keep them alive. Hell, its sure not out of concern of kindness. I don't think it would be political either cause there is still too much stigma and its still too much a taboo topic to enter the political arena.
 
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