I have had a couple of contacts with police when I have been suicidal and they have pretty much treated me okay but then I was compliant. One time, however, I was handcuffed and and chain was put around my waist and attached to the handcuffs. I was so subdued from an overdose that it didn't affect me at the time. Afterwards I felt upset by it.
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I called the crisis line as having made 2 serious attempts before I knew I needed help, the didnt have time for me so I told them if the didnt listen I would go to the mental health unit as I needed help, that is exactl what I did and the called the police and reported I had driven and smelt of alcohol. I was arrested, taken to the police station, collapsed in the cell(not from alcohol) I had taken some meds, was taken in an ambulance to hospital spent several das in ICU sent home, then 2 weeks later admitted to psc ward for 6 weeks, during which time had ECT, Its now a ear later, I am still driving and still fighting against the drink driving charge, we are in court again on 2nd Novemberfor final hearing, its been a nightmare,
As far as the CRB check nothing has shown up as et, but if I loose the case of course it will then, when a person with a mental health problem tries to talk people should take the time to listen and not judge what they may truel understand as it really can be a matter of life or death.
As far as the CRB check nothing has shown up as et, but if I loose the case of course it will then, when a person with a mental health problem tries to talk people should take the time to listen and not judge what they may truel understand as it really can be a matter of life or death.
This is a long debate, but suicide isn't lawful, because you're not of a sound state of mind when you're contemplating suicide or attempting it. Proof? Ask survivors who have gone on to recover. What people need is help and support, not the means to go and off themselves. In my opinion, anyway. Although it can be a bit controversial I do agree with police involvement in these circumstances. Not only for reasonable restraint but there are some truly reckless methods out there. Such as jumping onto motorways etc. and paramedics are neither trained nor paid enough to restrain unruly patients.. although I have been restrained by a paramedic, but that wasn't technically legal.
I hope the case goes well for you.
I hope the case goes well for you.
Years ago, I was arrested under the Mental Health Act (in Canada). I was found by the police in the middle of a suicide attempt (no thanks to a friend who called them). I was handcuffed and then driven to the nearest General Hospital Psych Unit. The police were as civil to me as the situation warranted. They did save my life. (Not that I was grateful to them at the time.)
jlc20m et al :heart:
jlc20m et al :heart:
i am a 23 yo singaporean woman who attempted suicide by overdosing <Mod edit, WildCherry: Methods> and somehow survived w/o much harm. Attempted suicide on 28/7 and woke up on 31/7 to know that the police were after me and arranged an apptmt for me through my dad to take my statement. on third day after i woke up, they threw me into IMH w/o even giving me my lunch. Life in IMH was hell! waking up at 6am to shower, bedtime at 8pm. confined within a small space treated like a lunatic. After a week i was released from IMH and two days later had to go down to amk police station to give my statement. The officer in charge of my case was a total jackass first he told me to come back another day then changed his mind and told me to go back again. He was harsh with me without compassion and looked at me as if i was freaking frankenstein. Went back in a month time only to be treated with scorn and the chief inspector officer treated me like a bloody criminal.
I personally feel that we suicidal people are not to be treated as criminals. We are people who cannot tolerate the harsh realities of life and we just need a break. When we have problems we are told to get lost and when we make a decision which does not even hurt others just needing a release from this world. we are branded as devils and troublemakers. WTF?
I personally feel that we suicidal people are not to be treated as criminals. We are people who cannot tolerate the harsh realities of life and we just need a break. When we have problems we are told to get lost and when we make a decision which does not even hurt others just needing a release from this world. we are branded as devils and troublemakers. WTF?
and now after my suicide i did not die , it seems my probs are still there and have doubled. The worst thing is that i feel that i kinda like that jackass police officer in charge of me and i am kinda sexually attracted to him. not that he is good looking or hot or sexy. not that i am attracted to jackass or bastards too. but not sure why. maybe after my release from imh, he was one of the man i had contact with.
what the hell is with me???
and now after my suicide i did not die , it seems my probs are still there and have doubled. The worst thing is that i feel that i kinda like that jackass police officer in charge of me and i am kinda sexually attracted to him. not that he is good looking or hot or sexy. not that i am attracted to jackass or bastards too. but not sure why. maybe after my release from imh, he was one of the man i had contact with. what the hell is with me???
what the hell is with me???
I'm surprised I've never posted in this thread before. Anyways..
The two times I had hearings (involuntary commitment proceedings) and I was transported to the juvenile court, the police officers were very kind. The first time, it was a man and a woman. They said it was their policy to handcuff me... but when the hearing started the man said that he didn't think I'd do anything.. so he took my handcuffs off and I was handcuff free for the rest of the time, even on the ride back to the hospital. Both were memorable. The guy was Australian.. that's when I learned the difference between "mate" and "matey." I will remember his words "And the same to you, sir. I do hope things get better for you. Your father has your best interests at heart." The second time, the lady was kind as well. No handcuffs.
As for non-court but mental health related stuff, one time in late January there was a pretty passive-aggressive officer. He handcuffed me at first and told me that if I resisted while he let me out of the car, then he'd have to resort to more measures. I remember when I was inside the hospital changing, and I asked him a question about how to put on the clothes I was given, and he gave a sarcastic "I suppose so." But hey, he's doing his job.. and the situation I was in wasn't something to be cheerful about. Still doesn't let me forgive his behavior.
The other time in March, there were two police officers who pulled me over. Both interrogated me a lot, and I respect the professional approach they took.
Overall, I'd say I think it really depends on the officers involved.. and I have had pleasant experiences for the most part.
The two times I had hearings (involuntary commitment proceedings) and I was transported to the juvenile court, the police officers were very kind. The first time, it was a man and a woman. They said it was their policy to handcuff me... but when the hearing started the man said that he didn't think I'd do anything.. so he took my handcuffs off and I was handcuff free for the rest of the time, even on the ride back to the hospital. Both were memorable. The guy was Australian.. that's when I learned the difference between "mate" and "matey." I will remember his words "And the same to you, sir. I do hope things get better for you. Your father has your best interests at heart." The second time, the lady was kind as well. No handcuffs.
As for non-court but mental health related stuff, one time in late January there was a pretty passive-aggressive officer. He handcuffed me at first and told me that if I resisted while he let me out of the car, then he'd have to resort to more measures. I remember when I was inside the hospital changing, and I asked him a question about how to put on the clothes I was given, and he gave a sarcastic "I suppose so." But hey, he's doing his job.. and the situation I was in wasn't something to be cheerful about. Still doesn't let me forgive his behavior.
The other time in March, there were two police officers who pulled me over. Both interrogated me a lot, and I respect the professional approach they took.
Overall, I'd say I think it really depends on the officers involved.. and I have had pleasant experiences for the most part.
I'll admit i don't know a whole lot about police and similar enforcement figures in terms of the training so i don't know if they are trained to deal with mental health situations. I'm sure they are to some extent however i think that they definitely need more training in that department about how exactly to deal with people struggling with a mental health related crisis(whether it be psychosis, suicidal etc). I can understand understand some things, however others... specifically the attitudes towards the people it needs to be improved. I'm not saying all cops are bad to people and are all rude to people with mental health issues because i honestly can't say for myself i have had an incident involving them i'm just saying from stories on here and stories from real life overall it needs to be improved.
The officer took the handcuffs off after he communicated with others, and I was led out of the police car and into the ambulance that had just arrived next to the police car. It was decided that they were going to try to put me in an ambulance and send me to the ER. The room I was in was in the hospital, and I was taken to a nearby restroom to change into a hospital gown, the type where you use strings and there are two parts to the gown. One you put on to cover the front of you, and one to cover the back. Hmm... I don't know if I explained what I just said clearly, either.
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