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Neko~boy

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I think some people who don't have OCD get some romantic, easy vision in their head of how overcoming it works. They give you a kick up the arse, and force your hand so you have to take on tasks that agitate you to a level beyond what feels comfortable or safe. And they picture that in the face of you not bursting into flames, the OCD anxiety just crumbles, like Thanos turning to dust.

When what they don't realise is it's more like crushing a leech that's been latched onto you for decades by this point. It opposes the parasitic thoughts, but floods your system with so much toxic effluvia in the process. Much more often than not, the OCD doesn't magically get better, it gets worse. The anxiety becomes stronger, the obsessive thoughts get louder, and the compulsions become harder to resist.

I just got caught in a loop that resulted in me changing shirts, and washing my hands and face over and over.
Must have washed my hands like 8 times by the time i finally managed to break out of it. Now my hands feel sore and dry, and my face isn't feeling that much better, cos i had to take an alcohol wipe to it in the end to quiet the anxiety. And all because i get treated like just because i technically can do more stuff if forced to, that means it's a good idea to force me into doing it.

Before this worsening of my condition, i totally could have just shut down the anxiety before the cycle even began. Now i've lost control again. This spells out the beginning of a dark period of general backsliding in managing my OCD...

I am sorry that people don't understand the severity of OCD and how it affects your life. People are lucky they don't have to deal with it.
I believe in you, that you can overcome the worst of it. I wish I had better words to offer. I hope the soreness goes away soon. *sadhug
 
I think some people who don't have OCD get some romantic, easy vision in their head of how overcoming it works. They give you a kick up the arse, and force your hand so you have to take on tasks that agitate you to a level beyond what feels comfortable or safe. And they picture that in the face of you not bursting into flames, the OCD anxiety just crumbles, like Thanos turning to dust.
I don't have OCD, but people have similar ideas about overcoming other types of anxiety and phobias, which I do have.

I think if it was as straightforward as people make out, then these things basically wouldn't exist, it would just be a matter of getting a bit of "exposure", or "getting used to the feelings" etc.

A lot of my symptoms don't seem to show up on those symptom lists either
 

Lisa the Ferrociraptor

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I think some people who don't have OCD get some romantic, easy vision in their head of how overcoming it works. They give you a kick up the arse, and force your hand so you have to take on tasks that agitate you to a level beyond what feels comfortable or safe. And they picture that in the face of you not bursting into flames, the OCD anxiety just crumbles, like Thanos turning to dust.

When what they don't realise is it's more like crushing a leech that's been latched onto you for decades by this point. It opposes the parasitic thoughts, but floods your system with so much toxic effluvia in the process. Much more often than not, the OCD doesn't magically get better, it gets worse. The anxiety becomes stronger, the obsessive thoughts get louder, and the compulsions become harder to resist.

I just got caught in a loop that resulted in me changing shirts, and washing my hands and face over and over.
Must have washed my hands like 8 times by the time i finally managed to break out of it. Now my hands feel sore and dry, and my face isn't feeling that much better, cos i had to take an alcohol wipe to it in the end to quiet the anxiety. And all because i get treated like just because i technically can do more stuff if forced to, that means it's a good idea to force me into doing it.

Before this worsening of my condition, i totally could have just shut down the anxiety before the cycle even began. Now i've lost control again. This spells out the beginning of a dark period of general backsliding in managing my OCD...
Turns out it's more than just my OCD it's affecting. I saw my dad walk into the room. I knew he was behind me. But after i turned back around to look at the toaster, he accidentally knocked over the pepper grinder. The bang of it hitting the counter shouldn't have startled me much at all. But i felt my heart leap out of my chest. My body reacted to it like a gunshot just went off behind me. All of my anxiety is heightened to a concerning degree. I'm twitchier than a chihuahua on meth.
 

Lisa the Ferrociraptor

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I am sorry that people don't understand the severity of OCD and how it affects your life. People are lucky they don't have to deal with it.
I believe in you, that you can overcome the worst of it. I wish I had better words to offer. I hope the soreness goes away soon. *sadhug
I don't have OCD, but people have similar ideas about overcoming other types of anxiety and phobias, which I do have.

I think if it was as straightforward as people make out, then these things basically wouldn't exist, it would just be a matter of getting a bit of "exposure", or "getting used to the feelings" etc.

A lot of my symptoms don't seem to show up on those symptom lists either
Thank you to both of you btw. I appreciate your kind words. *grouphug2
 

Neko~boy

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Turns out it's more than just my OCD it's affecting. I saw my dad walk into the room. I knew he was behind me. But after i turned back around to look at the toaster, he accidentally knocked over the pepper grinder. The bang of it hitting the counter shouldn't have startled me much at all. But i felt my heart leap out of my chest. My body reacted to it like a gunshot just went off behind me. All of my anxiety is heightened to a concerning degree. I'm twitchier than a chihuahua on meth.

Okay I am very sorry, but I couldn't help but chuckle at the "twitchier than a chihuahua on meth" remark. 😅 I can relate to that feeling though. Anxiety on its own is such a nuisance but adding your ocd to the mix, I cant even begin to understand how worse it can be.

Do you know what might have triggered the ocd to become worse lately? Could it be everyone thinking "it should be easy to get over"? Or perhaps when you felt poorly not long ago? Or maybe there was no specific trigger.
 

Lisa the Ferrociraptor

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Okay I am very sorry, but I couldn't help but chuckle at the "twitchier than a chihuahua on meth" remark. 😅 I can relate to that feeling though. Anxiety on its own is such a nuisance but adding your ocd to the mix, I cant even begin to understand how worse it can be.

Do you know what might have triggered the ocd to become worse lately? Could it be everyone thinking "it should be easy to get over"? Or perhaps when you felt poorly not long ago? Or maybe there was no specific trigger.
Nothing to apologise for, i write goofy lil similies like that in hopes they'll be amusing. Just cos i'm talking about serious feelings doesn't preclude me from doing so in an entertaining way.;)

And i know exactly what's triggered it all. My dad got really on my case and angry about me not doing various things i technically can do if i force myself to do them. Stuff like loading the dishwasher, or clearing hair out of the shower drain. Basic little tasks around the house, that i completely get being annoyed by a regular person leaving for the other person to deal with. Hell, i can get being annoyed at the circumstances that have made me leave them.

But instead, he chose to get mad at me, seemingly because he believed that since i technically can do them, i'm just opting not to, cos i can't be bothered, cos i don't care or something. When in truth, the actual reason is because they're beyond the level i can safely push myself to. I've been making steady gains with my OCD, and i have a lot more freedom than i used to. I can empty the bins with very minor stress. I can pick things up off the floor, and clean them without much trouble. I can change soap bottles, i can sit on the grass, i can walk around the house without any slippers on, with the one exception of the bathroom. All just a few examples of things that's become healthily achievable along the way.

The stuff that's left, the stuff he's getting mad at, is the stuff i did not feel ready to routinely face. He's forced my hand, and i now have to do them to keep the peace. But to do so, i've had to jump way ahead. And in doing so, i'm kinda just mentally poisoning myself, because i don't have the energy needed to handle those tasks, and also maintain all the progress i've already made so far. Something has to give, and i'm now not allowed to give up on those tasks, so it has to be the stuff that's allowed me to actually get better with my OCD, and my anxiety. It's a stupid, self-destructive, short-sighted decision on his part, and i can virtually guarantee the tiny amount of psychic splash damage he takes from the way it's going to royally fuck me up, will only serve to annoy him further. He'll never acknowledge it's literally his fault i'm backsliding and falling apart again in the first place.
 

Lisa the Ferrociraptor

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Basically, all i can do at this point, is try and draw some amazing reserves of resilience and strength out of my arse, and find some way to somehow give him what he wants, while also managing to maintain all the work i've done up to now. To push myself too far, without incurring the inevitable burnout. I might be able to do so, i'm not saying i can't. But it'll be seriously hard, and most likely if i do find that reserve, it'll come out of some other vital part of me instead. Which is hazardous given how stressed and overwhelmed i've already been feeling worrying about my future with Kaya, and what the hell i'm meant to do to make it all work.

The damage likely will be incurred somehow. It's just a question of which part of me is going to break as a result. And he will never truly understand that he's the cause of the breakage, whatever it ends up being. He's painted me into a really shitty corner, and he'll never see that, he'll just blithely carry on like he's done the right thing here. It's immensely frustrating.
 
Nothing to apologise for, i write goofy lil similies like that in hopes they'll be amusing. Just cos i'm talking about serious feelings doesn't preclude me from doing so in an entertaining way.;)

And i know exactly what's triggered it all. My dad got really on my case and angry about me not doing various things i technically can do if i force myself to do them. Stuff like loading the dishwasher, or clearing hair out of the shower drain. Basic little tasks around the house, that i completely get being annoyed by a regular person leaving for the other person to deal with. Hell, i can get being annoyed at the circumstances that have made me leave them.

But instead, he chose to get mad at me, seemingly because he believed that since i technically can do them, i'm just opting not to, cos i can't be bothered, cos i don't care or something. When in truth, the actual reason is because they're beyond the level i can safely push myself to. I've been making steady gains with my OCD, and i have a lot more freedom than i used to. I can empty the bins with very minor stress. I can pick things up off the floor, and clean them without much trouble. I can change soap bottles, i can sit on the grass, i can walk around the house without any slippers on, with the one exception of the bathroom. All just a few examples of things that's become healthily achievable along the way.

The stuff that's left, the stuff he's getting mad at, is the stuff i did not feel ready to routinely face. He's forced my hand, and i now have to do them to keep the peace. But to do so, i've had to jump way ahead. And in doing so, i'm kinda just mentally poisoning myself, because i don't have the energy needed to handle those tasks, and also maintain all the progress i've already made so far. Something has to give, and i'm now not allowed to give up on those tasks, so it has to be the stuff that's allowed me to actually get better with my OCD, and my anxiety. It's a stupid, self-destructive, short-sighted decision on his part, and i can virtually guarantee the tiny amount of psychic splash damage he takes from the way it's going to royally fuck me up, will only serve to annoy him further. He'll never acknowledge it's literally his fault i'm backsliding and falling apart again in the first place.

You have made tremendous strides with your ocd and that is absolutely incredible! I personally find sitting on the grass to be a major accomplishment (all of them are), because it can be a wonderful moment of just grounding yourself with the earth which I find can be a peaceful moment.

It is understandable that there will be a couple of tasks you're not ready for yet. You have to take time and do things step by step in the way that makes you comfortable. You shouldn't be forced into something when you're not ready or mentally prepared for it. I hate that your dad has made your ocd worse and set off your anxiety with it, especially over a couple of tasks. He fails to see the other wins and accomplishments you've been making and continue to make.

I wonder, can you tolerate kitchen gloves? Could those possibly help you do the tasks of loading the dish washer and another pair of gloves to help clear the hair from the drain? I wonder, if gloves are doable, if that could possibly help with your anxiety and stress over these tasks?

I am very proud of everything you have accomplished and continue to work hard on. *brohug
 
Stupid monsoon season. Stupid typhoons.
There’s a leak from the kitchen ceiling, and it happened while i was making breakfast, it is so annoying….

I have to buy more storage organizers if the kitchen cabinets and counter will become inaccessible… so annoying.

There are lots of things to move and clean and I am busy bed rotting.

add on: crap I forgot the bed sheet are still in the washer and i forgot to start the laundry this morning.
 
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Stupid monsoon season. Stupid typhoons.
There’s a leak from the kitchen ceiling, and it happened while i was making breakfast, it is so annoying….

I have to buy more storage organizers if the kitchen cabinets and counter will become inaccessible… so annoying.

There are lots of things to move and clean and I am busy bed rotting.

add on: crap I forgot the bed sheet are still in the washer and i forgot to start the laundry this morning.
I hope you can catch up on things soon. *hug
 

Lisa the Ferrociraptor

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Staff Alumni
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I wonder, can you tolerate kitchen gloves? Could those possibly help you do the tasks of loading the dish washer and another pair of gloves to help clear the hair from the drain? I wonder, if gloves are doable, if that could possibly help with your anxiety and stress over these tasks?
I do use gloves to clear the shower drain. It's the only way i can do that one. I hadn't thought of using a designated pair of gloves to load the dishwasher though, that might actually work to reduce the stress of having to keep doing that one. *yes4
 

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