Post your *petty* complaint here

[Shelly]

My point is that these LGBT social media people have a responsibility to act properly without completely changing/deleting their identity and personality.

i dont like that they are being bitchy/asshole, manipulative, inconsiderate, snobby, ridiculing/belittling people, bringing nothing but “drama” ... and think they can get away with it because they have the rainbow card to their advantage and that they’re popular.

and yet they go IN when it comes to pride and acceptance and still behave that way? I don’t think the behavior they display renders acceptance and equality.
Rude behavior is rude regardless of your orientation/identity/personality
Being LGBT does not excuse you to behave that way, that is too much, that is overboard, that is over the top, that is not okay

this our point of view
Let this be the last of it about this topic
But if you feel you have something else or more to say then please have the freedom to do so, you can message me or perhaps we or you can make a different thread about it so it doesn’t occupy too much space here out of respect for everyone who doesn’t want to deal with this.

 

[Shelly]

You do realize that all of this you are saying is forcing your opinion on someone?
If you curse in front of nuns or children you are too much.
If you go into a church without a bra on you are inappropriate.
If you don't meet MY idea of acceptable then you are overboard.
You are entitled to your opinion, but SF isn't the place to be shaming people for not fitting into the mold you believe they should.

i’ve mentioned previously to meet halfway.
I never mentioned one has to completely abide to one’s standard.
I’m not forcing, i am stating what i have to say.

And those were just examples where we have to be considerate/mindful/respectful of each other.

We have to meet halfway and compromise what we can both do so we dont step on each other’s boundary.

you have to understand the entirety of what i am saying instead of nitpicking what you want to comment on

 

[1964dodge]

now that you’ve mentioned it.
Equality.
It’s not just for us lgbt,
It’s for everyone.
We have to be at equal level with everyone, that is essentially what equality is. It is not forcing everyone to accept a behavior that is too much.

I wouldn’t go so far as to compare blaming a woman getting raped for wearing a mini skirt, that is taking it “too” far. That is my point with “too much”

we were discussing about social media lgbt people who are nothing but loud and obnoxious, you can’t put yourself out there in the public and ask for privacy when you dont want it anymore, you have to be mindful and responsible of your actions, of the complications of the lifestyle you chose to have. You can’t expect or force everyone to be welcoming or accepting all types of behavior, there will always a point where you draw the line

it’s like this.
Your lifestyle is to curse for every sentence you say.
Would you still do that when you’re surrounded by kids and or nuns?
Would you tell them, this is me, accept me, i demand equality and respect for cursing in the presence of kids and nuns.

No. You have to adjust, respect begets respect. Acceptance begets acceptance.
We have to be mindful of each other and behave accordingly, instead of selfishly and inconsiderately.

another one...
I dont mind women going braless
I dont mind women wearing see through tops that shows undergarments or the lack of it
But I would not expect them to feel that they can enter the church in that attire and demand to be treated with equality and respect while they disrespect and disregard another’s space

there will always be limits to how far you can push boundaries.
Too much is just too much, if you force your opinion on someone rather than just stating it then you are enforcing resistance rather than understanding and acceptance

just curious who do you think should set these standards of "too far" this thread is going nowhere and I think it's time to change the topic or start a thread in the right foum...mike

 

[Shelly]

just curious who do you think should set these standards of "too far" this thread is going nowhere and I think it's time to change the topic or start a thread in the right foum...mike

It’s everyone

 

[Shelly]

@Nick

the topic went out of track
My point was about loud and obnoxious behavior that creates hate and resistance for acceptance

i only liked different opinions of responding people here because i see everyone’s point of view.

it went out of track when people turned it to be about forcing personalities to change, about lifestyles — people dug in too deep.
It was nothing but a petty complaint and others here decided to take it further.

i’m voicing my opinions the same way everyone does and i know i’m not the only one who feels the same way. You have to understand both opposing sides instead of relentlessly picking a side unwilling to understand a different perspective

if anyone is offended i apologize but I still stand by everything i said.

 

[1964dodge]

I am sorry @Shelly I like you a lot. I read yur posts and like them but i'm sorry but all you are doing is insulting eople and pissing me off. i'm bi even though I haven't been with another man since I was married. but If I want to wear a bright red low cut dress and dance the can can in the middle of the street is my right(even though I never wore a dress) and if my wife went to church without a bra are you saying she's evil? I've seen woman without a bra in church no big deal. tonight for the first time ever I find you offensive. please, please, start a thread and rant your beliefs in the right place. I see this as persecution of some of the lgbt community. ...mike....

 

[Shelly]

I am sorry @Shelly I like you a lot. I read yur posts and like them but i'm sorry but all you are doing is insulting eople and pissing me off. i'm bi even though I haven't been with another man since I was married. but If I want to wear a bright red low cut dress and dance the can can in the middle of the street is my right(even though I never wore a dress) and if my wife went to church without a bra are you saying she's evil? I've seen woman without a bra in church no big deal. tonight for the first time ever I find you offensive. please, please, start a thread and rant your beliefs in the right place. I see this as persecution of some of the lgbt community. ...mike....

if people feel insulted and offended then i sincerely apologize.
Insulting and persecution was and is never my intention.
It was about loud and obnoxious behavior.
What i dont want is for people to freely do whatever they want without any regards to how would other feel, and if these others react negatively and the person weeps about it and say it’s an attack then dont be surprised because that’s just how things are, not everyone will be accepting.

again, those were just examples when it comes to being mindful of other people around you, i am not saying one is immoral or evil because of one thing, i am saying it’s inconsiderate.

here in my country you can’t go wearing revealing dresses or no bra in church, unless you are covered in layers of clothes where no one can even tell. And that is the rule of the church and as respect you have to abide by it, nothing against anyone, you can’t go there dressing however you want - that is it.

people are taking it too far, you all need to calm down, it was just a petty complaint and everyone else decided to blow it out.

 

[Walker]

but If I want to wear a bright red low cut dress and dance the can can in the middle of the street is my right

Raise your hand if you got a full on image of that. *cough*

 

[1964dodge]

Raise your hand if you got a full on image of that. *cough*

like this but i'm much older lol....mike

 

[Baywasp]

The library seems to have suddenly imposed limits on how many times you can renew an item, but I can't find any information online about renewal limits.

 

[Tana]

I'm really sorry if I offended anyone.
I don't hate anyone for what they dress/act like (or just *anyone* in general), and I mostly kept in mind those parades where some were really loosely/inappropriately dressed and there were children around...too much is too much, and I'd obviously say the same if a straight person would do that (plus, give them some jail time...there's no way this can be acceptable).

As for how the media only chooses to portray those who are "stereotypical" ...yes, it does bug me. But if it wasn't clear why we're agreeing with the "right-wingers' more then anything (or why I am anyway), it's because it's bothering them, and breeding hate because of some others act like, not me....anyway, if no one would care, and it wasn't harmful, I wouldn't care either. But really...I mean, it's not like it can't be totally helped....so why? :/

...again though, my words were maybe too harsh, I'm really sorry and I won't do anything like this again. The last thing I want is someone to feel bad over what I said, it wasn't my intent, but I wasn't thinking it through smartly...I'm really sorry. I hope I can make up for it, but I understand if not.

 

[Tana]

I feel awful...I wish I never engaged in that debate.
It doesn't matter what I think, do your thing and I'll do mine.

It was just a personal opinion, no one should actually feel bad about it.
Could have stated it more politely though, or better yet, not type anything though.

I really hope @Walker is wrong though, and no one thought anything like that when reading?

 

[Walker]

It's all good, @someone123 we're gonna put it all to sleep for now. I think (most) everyone is agreeing that people should be themselves, whoever that is. That's what counts most.

 

[Auri]

@someone123 ♡♡♡ Don't worry. Sending hugs.

 

[Auri]

To everyone! Don't forget to love and celebrate yourselves today.

 

[britishbloke]

To everyone! Don't forget to love and celebrate yourselves today.

Remember to send yourself some love too

 

[Auri]

Remember to send yourself some love too

I do, or at least try to. ♡

 

[britishbloke]

I do, or at least try to. ♡

If that fails, return here, underneath this message

 

[Road to Nowhere]

Where have all our influential leaders gone? People who helped change the world like Martin Luther King Jr. Gandhi, Buddha, Nelson Mandela. We live in a society where we have the technology to offend anyone at the click of a button. People don't interact any more respect or learn from there elders, They sit behind there computer screens saying hateful things to people, Things they would never say to there faces. We live in a society of cowards were people don't make the sacrifices necessary to make change, or learn from our history. People care more about there facebook status then actually helping someone in need. Kids are constantly on there phones or playing video games, instead of playing outside or reading a book. There brainwashed by public schools, media and internet. until we stop valuing technology and materialism, above our fellow man I don't see us making progress that will make a difference in today's society.

 

[Aurelia]

i agree, but you can’t say jeffree didn’t do over the top things that were negative and gave him backlash
And that gave him a reality check
That gave him self-awareness
That what he did was wrong, what he did was too much, that he understands the repercussions, and he is apologetic and regretful and with that awareness it was brought to himself to improve not just for the people but for him/herself and it paid well.

now if we go to someone like james charles, nikocado avocado, that’s what i meant with loud and obnoxious who takes the lgbt card to their advantage. Yes they are part of the rainbow community, yes they want acceptance but do they really feel their rude behavior is deemed acceptable? They are big people online who represents all of us and unknowing people will think that is how all
Lgbt are typically and will make them unaccepting of us

I get what you're saying, but it's not just LGBT, specifically. All people who are obnoxious and loud are annoying. When I go get my Suboxone at my clinic, most of the junkies who go there are obnoxious and loud in the waiting room, and I feel like they give addicts a bad reputation. The staff over there love me because I simply sit quietly and wait, while they're sitting there talking about getting high and even selling their Subs. And they bitch and complain constantly and make a scene that they don't get a month's worth of Subs when their drug tests constantly come up hot for opiates. Same with methadone clinics. The shops nearby all hated us because junkies came in and stole stuff all the time, and would sit at Dunkin Donuts for hours selling pills, nodding out, etc. I never did any of that over there. I just got my methadone and went home. Did it upset me that people thought we were all like that? Yeah, of course. But what can you do besides not be that person yourself, you know?