When my rights and your rights conflict

[BarryW]

I wrote a poem to celebrate moving away from this neighbor.

While I'm sleeping, no more Praise.
No more clap clap clap for days.
While I work contract-to-hire
No more shouts of brim and fire.
If ever slightly my floor does dip
No more small dog yip yip yip.
I hope one day, perhaps in years
You'll learn to consider others' ears.

 

[Livelife]

I have a 4 year old situation with the people that moved in behind me (we share a fence) that doesn't have anything to do with religion but just about being thoughtless and selfish and it has altered how I live my life and use my home of over 20 years. I used to spend over 1/2 my time in the backyard....doing important things to me like yoga, meditation, gardening. napping, reading, or having company ......this family has several dogs and they also keep them outside. I have not had a moment of quiet since. The dogs bark loudly and incessantly most of the day and also at night and ramp up when I or my dogs step outside.
The HOA and animal control are useless with any intervention. And we have noise outlines per the HOA as well. To compound the situation further: when they moved in their dog(s) broke through the wooden fence one night and I looked up from my couch to see them both in my living room. I have a doggie door. I thought, ok, good opportunity to meet the new neighbors and have a chat and work something out. This man came to my house and when I stuck my hand out to shake his and introduce myself he ignored the gesture as well as the introduction, actually insulted me personally and the "shitty fence that was mine", and left with his dogs. So direct conversation was out of the question from the beginning with this ignoramus.
I plan on moving when my dogs go and that should be in the near future. It's a shame when good residents in a community don't have any support. And when people don't know how to behave appropriately and kindly in situations like what you and I are experiencing.

I wish you the best with what is happening.....I hope your move is to a nice quiet place.

 

[BarryW]

I'm not a dog expert and happy to be told I am wrong.. I've grown to feel that many dogs are too territorial to live in an apartment complex or even a street with a line of houses. They would do better on a 20 acre farm. The amount of space many dogs feel is theirs is way bigger than the space legally allotted to their owners. It's not the dog's fault, but they have no understanding that other people have paid just as much money as their owners to legally reside 5 feet away from them (or whatever). And the idea of shared space like sidewalks is lost on many.

Again, not blaming the dogs. Just wish that some residents in some places factored in their dog or breed's territorialness before moving in to a new location or getting a new dog.

 

[BarryW]

Or just get a bunny. People who have complained about bunnies being too loud: zero.

 

[Livelife]

Or just get a bunny. People who have complained about bunnies being too loud: zero.

 

[Livelife]

I'm not a dog expert and happy to be told I am wrong.. I've grown to feel that many dogs are too territorial to live in an apartment complex or even a street with a line of houses. They would do better on a 20 acre farm. The amount of space many dogs feel is theirs is way bigger than the space legally allotted to their owners. It's not the dog's fault, but they have no understanding that other people have paid just as much money as their owners to legally reside 5 feet away from them (or whatever). And the idea of shared space like sidewalks is lost on many.

Again, not blaming the dogs. Just wish that some residents in some places factored in their dog or breed's territorialness before moving in to a new location or getting a new dog.

Agreed, it's absolutely not the dog's fault.
I have always trained my dogs myself. Dogs are trainable. It's the human that is responsible for making it happen.
It takes time and consistency. And really can be done in fairly short order.
Lol, my dogs know better than to bark back at other dogs.
Samsun, the one in the picture here even knows what it means when I put my forefinger to my lips with the "Shhh" gesture.

 

[SillyOldBear]

Or just get a bunny. People who have complained about bunnies being too loud: zero.

Bunnies poop A LOT and can get very stinky.

 

[KM76710]

I have a 4 year old situation with the people that moved in behind me (we share a fence) that doesn't have anything to do with religion but just about being thoughtless and selfish and it has altered how I live my life and use my home of over 20 years. I used to spend over 1/2 my time in the backyard....doing important things to me like yoga, meditation, gardening. napping, reading, or having company ......this family has several dogs and they also keep them outside. I have not had a moment of quiet since. The dogs bark loudly and incessantly most of the day and also at night and ramp up when I or my dogs step outside.
The HOA and animal control are useless with any intervention. And we have noise outlines per the HOA as well. To compound the situation further: when they moved in their dog(s) broke through the wooden fence one night and I looked up from my couch to see them both in my living room. I have a doggie door. I thought, ok, good opportunity to meet the new neighbors and have a chat and work something out. This man came to my house and when I stuck my hand out to shake his and introduce myself he ignored the gesture as well as the introduction, actually insulted me personally and the "shitty fence that was mine", and left with his dogs. So direct conversation was out of the question from the beginning with this ignoramus.
I plan on moving when my dogs go and that should be in the near future. It's a shame when good residents in a community don't have any support. And when people don't know how to behave appropriately and kindly in situations like what you and I are experiencing.

I wish you the best with what is happening.....I hope your move is to a nice quiet place.

Your neighbor sounds like one of the reasons that I am glad the nearest ones to me are 100 yards away. We have enough distance to not have to put up with each other unless we are inclined to for a reason. He is an example of why people are less and less likely to want to be neighborly and stick more to themselves. I would have been the one apologizing for the intrusion and be offering to fix up the fence.

 

[BarryW]

Bunnies poop A LOT and can get very stinky.

You are right. We had some bunnies during my childhood and the yard was littered with poop. I don't remember the bunnies smelling bad but definitely believe you it is possible.

 

[Livelife]

Your neighbor sounds like one of the reasons that I am glad the nearest ones to me are 100 yards away. We have enough distance to not have to put up with each other unless we are inclined to for a reason. He is an example of why people are less and less likely to want to be neighborly and stick more to themselves. I would have been the one apologizing for the intrusion and be offering to fix up the fence.

It's obvious (to me) that that would have been the "neighborly and mature" response, like me returning his dogs instead of calling animal control, as well as creating foundation for future exchange if there were ever to be one.....and there were, lol....he stayed true to his form. I've learned to not engage in these kinds of situations, in an attempt to present another point of view or have conversation, it only exacerbates the jerk behavior

 

[KM76710]

It's obvious (to me) that that would have been the "neighborly and mature" response, like me returning his dogs instead of calling animal control, as well as creating foundation for future exchange if there were ever to be one.....and there were, lol....he stayed true to his form. I've learned to not engage in these kinds of situations, in an attempt to present another point of view or have conversation, it only exacerbates the jerk behavior

True. It is like the Twilight Zone episode The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street. There monsters were not due, none had to arrive, they were there all along and only needed the right push to bring them out into the open.