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I think there are a couple who probably do use them (the somewhat less materialistic and diva-like ones). Though, not necessarily the ones they advertise.

And the rest, probably use it specifically for the commercial/ad, and then have their face enhanced with photo editing.
yeah but I’m “specifically” pointing out those who are obviously using high end and has their own dermatologist on hand whenever— and yet drugstore brands would still hire them, they think people aren’t going to question the person’s credibility. We can tell right from the get go she absolutely does not use drugstore product unless she gets paid to do it.
 
As a person with anxiety and who is also pessimistic, i’m constantly worrying about worst outcomes

And people always underestimate my foresight ability
I’ve warned them

and yet when the outcome is reached, they then give off their hindsight statement, like i never said anything beforehand.

bitch, i told you so.
 
It amazes me when people are too blinded with optimism and go on with their plans like nothing could ever go wrong

sit down and let me tell you the billion ways how your plan can go wrong, and what you should do to secure nothing can go wrong instead of diving in to a situation without a care.
 

Aurelia

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SF Supporter
yeah but I’m “specifically” pointing out those who are obviously using high end and has their own dermatologist on hand whenever— and yet drugstore brands would still hire them, they think people aren’t going to question the person’s credibility. We can tell right from the get go she absolutely does not use drugstore product unless she gets paid to do it.
Some people are naive and really don't question it. All they see is their favorite celebrities endorsing a product, and that's enough to get them to want to go buy it.

No lie, though, if I ever saw Davey Havok endorsing a product, like eyeshadow or mascara of some sort, I'd probably get it my damn self. :P

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He would never endorse anything that's tested on animals, though, so it would probably be makeup a little more on the expensive side, not cheap drugstore brands.
 
yeah but I’m “specifically” pointing out those who are obviously using high end and has their own dermatologist on hand whenever— and yet drugstore brands would still hire them, they think people aren’t going to question the person’s credibility. We can tell right from the get go she absolutely does not use drugstore product unless she gets paid to do it.
Some people are naive and really don't question it. All they see is their favorite celebrities endorsing a product, and that's enough to get them to want to go buy it.

No lie, though, if I ever saw Davey Havok endorsing a product, like eyeshadow or mascara of some sort, I'd probably get it my damn self. :P

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He would never endorse anything that's tested on animals, though, so it would probably be makeup a little more on the expensive side, not cheap drugstore brands.
I tend to question a lot of things even those that claim they’re cruelty free.

But in my country a lot of local make up brands went cruelty free and still keep their prices affordable to low prices and they’re doing well.

Sometimes i dont understand companies that mean well to nature but will overpriced them, that’s just one more reason why everyone can’t be pro-nature because it’s too expensive to be one
 

Aurelia

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SF Supporter
I tend to question a lot of things even those that claim they’re cruelty free.

But in my country a lot of local make up brands went cruelty free and still keep their prices affordable to low prices and they’re doing well.

Sometimes i dont understand companies that mean well to nature but will overpriced them, that’s just one more reason why everyone can’t be pro-nature because it’s too expensive to be one
That's true. I love animals, but I honestly don't pay attention to whether a product is cruelty free. My main priority is to be able to afford it.
 

Aurelia

🔥 A Fire Inside 🔥
SF Supporter
and it's ironic that it's too expensive to save the earth, but it's very affordable to destroy it.
Of course. Pretty much everything that regular people can do as individuals to help reduce pollution, global warming, etc., costs a lot more than being part of the problem and destroying it all. It's all ass backwards. Even to eat healthy foods costs a fortune, but a 2000 calorie cheeseburger costs a dollar. We can't even afford to preserve our own species.
 
Of course. Pretty much everything that regular people can do as individuals to help reduce pollution, global warming, etc., costs a lot more than being part of the problem and destroying it all. It's all ass backwards. Even to eat healthy foods costs a fortune, but a 2000 calorie cheeseburger costs a dollar. We can't even afford to preserve our own species.
we're doomed. it's best for earth to not have humans anymore.
 
people who complain about bones in their food, like chicken or fish.
but they don't complain about barbecue ribs.

this is like when someone i know told me he's allergic to shrimps, but he loves eating clams, oysters, mussels... smh...
 
sometimes i just can't pinpoint what it is that food that used to brought you comfort no longer gives the same effect. it's no longer heartwarming.

even if it's exactly the same and cooked by the same person.
i guess things are just different.
 

Aurelia

🔥 A Fire Inside 🔥
SF Supporter
sometimes i just can't pinpoint what it is that food that used to brought you comfort no longer gives the same effect. it's no longer heartwarming.

even if it's exactly the same and cooked by the same person.
i guess things are just different.
I think it's more so the emotions you remember feeling while eating said food, rather than the taste of the food itself. I'm guessing that various factors (environmental, social, emotional, conscious and subconscious, etc.) played a role in how you felt about eating that food at the time, and now, some of those factors are missing. Hence, why it doesn't feel the same even though it tastes the same.
 

Auri

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I tend to question a lot of things even those that claim they’re cruelty free.

But in my country a lot of local make up brands went cruelty free and still keep their prices affordable to low prices and they’re doing well.

Sometimes i dont understand companies that mean well to nature but will overpriced them, that’s just one more reason why everyone can’t be pro-nature because it’s too expensive to be one
Well, there are very expensive things and a little cheaper ones, but you'll never get the cheapest price out of something ethical. If a product costs way cheaper than the competition, it is definitely produced out of shady ingredients and in unsafe environments exploiting people (not even speaking about animals).

Ethical products are not as easily found, produced and sold as unethical ones. Making sure they are free of hazardous substances, not tested on animals, fitting the standards for sale, produced in safe environments where workers are protected and paid well, and all this while providing good quality... all that costs money, and a company will sell if it has profit, otherwise they won't survive under capitalism. It depends on your standards, some products are not crazy expensive and most people are able to afford them, but some can't.

When you check the labels, what they claim is true and verified, but make sure you know what the label exactly entails. It may require quite a lot of research. There are at least 3 different cruelty free labels in the EU that I know of, and they all mean slightly different things. It's in the details and it can be very surprising and not what you expected, but in the end you're the one to choose which one fits your standards.

Also, keep in mind that products that are not tested on animals may contain animal ingredients, so they are not "cruelty free". To get both, you need it to be cruelty free and vegan (official labels exist for that as well). On the other hand, companies pay to use a certain label, and that is when research on a brand is necessary if they promote themselves as cruelty free or vegan but don't wear official labels. They can be lying or not.

All that being said, in case you're not well educated on a brand/topic and you do see a label and can afford it, there is always a greater chance that it is slightly better than one without the label, so I recommend you take it. :)
 
Well, there are very expensive things and a little cheaper ones, but you'll never get the cheapest price out of something ethical. If a product costs way cheaper than the competition, it is definitely produced out of shady ingredients and in unsafe environments exploiting people (not even speaking about animals).

Ethical products are not as easily found, produced and sold as unethical ones. Making sure they are free of hazardous substances, not tested on animals, fitting the standards for sale, produced in safe environments where workers are protected and paid well, and all this while providing good quality... all that costs money, and a company will sell if it has profit, otherwise they won't survive under capitalism. It depends on your standards, some products are not crazy expensive and most people are able to afford them, but some can't.

When you check the labels, what they claim is true and verified, but make sure you know what the label exactly entails. It may require quite a lot of research. There are at least 3 different cruelty free labels in the EU that I know of, and they all mean slightly different things. It's in the details and it can be very surprising and not what you expected, but in the end you're the one to choose which one fits your standards.

Also, keep in mind that products that are not tested on animals may contain animal ingredients, so they are not "cruelty free". To get both, you need it to be cruelty free and vegan (official labels exist for that as well). On the other hand, companies pay to use a certain label, and that is when research on a brand is necessary if they promote themselves as cruelty free or vegan but don't wear official labels. They can be lying or not.

All that being said, in case you're not well educated on a brand/topic and you do see a label and can afford it, there is always a greater chance that it is slightly better than one without the label, so I recommend you take it. :)
which is why i question them
 

Baywasp

I know the world turns and it will turn on me
SF Supporter
I miss the chicken corn soup they used to make at the church I went to with my mom back in Lancaster. That would be nice for this weather. I haven't had any of that sort of traditional chicken corn soup in years.
(They might still make it at my old church; I have no idea.)
 
Still sick although getting better. Old refrigerator died last night. Passport lost in the mail and tracking receipt is lost. (I I do have the receipt from a fast food shop 3 weeks ago - go figure) . With being sick, everything feels like a struggle.One more day of work then off for a week and a half.
 

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