Are you over 60?
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I am the same way to a big extent. One of the reasons I fit the benevolent misanthrope thread here. Individually I may have no issues with anybody even though I normally don't see them as making sense and they most likely think the same about me. Get folks into groups and eventually you have people believing their way is so right they can be likely to make everybody live by their way. Whether it is morals, ethics, religion, politics eventually they decide that a person has to be so wrong or evil or stupid that they must be changed. People get along when they do out of self interest, other than that so much of history is just destroy each other.
Yes, over 60. Harder? Yes, in finances and security.
Depression and anxiety have always been bad for me, so I don't think age has made them worse. In some ways, I may be dealing with them better. Or else the meds are finally balanced.
Loneliness? No, I've usually been comfortable alone. I think I'm more at ease within my own skin. I remember when someone rejecting me would consume me for weeks, tearing my self-esteem, but now I'm less dependent on the approval of others.
Depression and anxiety have always been bad for me, so I don't think age has made them worse. In some ways, I may be dealing with them better. Or else the meds are finally balanced.
Loneliness? No, I've usually been comfortable alone. I think I'm more at ease within my own skin. I remember when someone rejecting me would consume me for weeks, tearing my self-esteem, but now I'm less dependent on the approval of others.
I started with insomnia after the age of 60 and have been unsuccessful with any kind of sleep aids.
I hear it seems to be a common issue.
I would really like to know what people here who are retired, and are alone for all intents and purpose, do with their time during the day. It greatly intensifies my depression and desire not to exist.
I hear it seems to be a common issue.
I would really like to know what people here who are retired, and are alone for all intents and purpose, do with their time during the day. It greatly intensifies my depression and desire not to exist.
As a senior, I've been tremendously blessed that I found a local Senior Center that I attend regularly. Very nice people there, so it's a life-saving social-outlet for me. Let's face it, online friends have No comparison to In-person friends. Two of them have become very close friends of mine, and phone me several times a week to arrange for activities at the Center.
Yes 61 .... and husband is 81... his mom lived to 107 (physically & mentally good till 106) ...and most friends are 60s-70s.
It is so true how there are those days when you feel like you're 10-20 years younger and those when you feel your age.
I am realizing more and more it is part of life's journey which unsurprisingly there is no roadmap especially as there aren't defined goals as such.
So at moment feel like I'm just aimlessly flitting here and there trying this or that. Doing diamond painting, exercise, reading, journaling, and helping husband in the garden.
Currently I am scanning all family photos to give to husband's family for Christmas. Last year I transcribed all his moms recipe boxes for them. My husband says this is stupid busy work and no one will care. But I too remember having to make the decision due to time and myriad of circumstances to throw my and my family's history away following my father's death. So I figure maybe incorrectly that this is something I can do and even if only one of them looks at either the recipes or pictures may bring a memory or a smile or something new to try...
Sorry longer than had intended...yes another part of aging for me...I've never been concise but even more verbose...sigh...
It is so true how there are those days when you feel like you're 10-20 years younger and those when you feel your age.
I am realizing more and more it is part of life's journey which unsurprisingly there is no roadmap especially as there aren't defined goals as such.
So at moment feel like I'm just aimlessly flitting here and there trying this or that. Doing diamond painting, exercise, reading, journaling, and helping husband in the garden.
Currently I am scanning all family photos to give to husband's family for Christmas. Last year I transcribed all his moms recipe boxes for them. My husband says this is stupid busy work and no one will care. But I too remember having to make the decision due to time and myriad of circumstances to throw my and my family's history away following my father's death. So I figure maybe incorrectly that this is something I can do and even if only one of them looks at either the recipes or pictures may bring a memory or a smile or something new to try...
Sorry longer than had intended...yes another part of aging for me...I've never been concise but even more verbose...sigh...
I absolutely agree about writing down the recipes as best you can so they do not get lost over time. My grandmother never taught my mom and aunt how to cook since granny had to cook for farm hands when they were kids and would not let them mess up the kitchen so by the time I was a teen my mother wanted me to do a lot of the cooking especially frying since nothing was written down and to mom that was a taste of her childhood. My grandmother never wrote anything out it was the pinch of this, dollop of that type of measurements that were hard to really get correctly except for eyeballing things. One of the things my mom never got right on the amount but was perfect on the flavor was gravy for chicken fried anything. People will be going back repeatedly for gravy whether for meat, potatoes, biscuits or cornbread. That or just be like Homer Simpson and the drink 8 cups of gravy a day. It also works for beef roast, potatoes and cornbread. 
I am 62, but started to count backwards on my 35 birthday. At zero I will be gone, I have no financial needs, I have raised 4 children (out of which 3 were not mine), all of them made University, one became pilot, I have seen it all, was working all over the world, had a lot of girlfriends, had times in my life which were horrible (when young) and live now relatively good.
But small things can now stress me up to breaking point, this is true. I lean more to depression. Loneliness is ok - I live with it, I am still separated physically from my partner (visa question) and try to live as good as I can. I fall back on regular basis, get depression, stand up again.... But how long this will and can continue depends on a lot of things, I survived so much (bombs, attacks, shooting, suicide attempts, jail...) not a lot I have not done or experienced. I am a dependent person and fight all the time.
Now I am in more peace - as finally all kids have left home (they are all in France or Spain) and the issue with my wife will be solved now hopefully this year. Otherwise I learned one thing- love and hope and believing in god is the best way. And yes, miracles happen - I know that 100%.
Sport if the best thing to stay fit, on line and balanced - this is at least what I learned. I wrote a book about my life and might publish it soon. It helped a lot. Family - no contact any longer.
But small things can now stress me up to breaking point, this is true. I lean more to depression. Loneliness is ok - I live with it, I am still separated physically from my partner (visa question) and try to live as good as I can. I fall back on regular basis, get depression, stand up again.... But how long this will and can continue depends on a lot of things, I survived so much (bombs, attacks, shooting, suicide attempts, jail...) not a lot I have not done or experienced. I am a dependent person and fight all the time.
Now I am in more peace - as finally all kids have left home (they are all in France or Spain) and the issue with my wife will be solved now hopefully this year. Otherwise I learned one thing- love and hope and believing in god is the best way. And yes, miracles happen - I know that 100%.
Sport if the best thing to stay fit, on line and balanced - this is at least what I learned. I wrote a book about my life and might publish it soon. It helped a lot. Family - no contact any longer.
i didn't realize tht the "above post" i was referring to was on page one. i thought it was on page 11. shows you why i'm not here anymore much lately. i hardly know where i am let alone my posted content. btw i did quote it. i just forget to include it in yesterday's post. so here it is for reference. 👩🦳
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my mom kept some recipes. my sister may have gotten them but idk. i have a couple but recipes didn't withstand time. i love(ed) cooking but i cook from memory and i use too much salt too often. i don't think my kids will make my cooking linger. most likely their mom's. she does most of the cooking anyway. or maybe their partners if and when. post me probs... sigh. i very over 60. 👩🦳
Hey! its me again! I always see this thread/channel/whatever and I always immediately am tempted to click and post and I say to myself, "wait, i've posted here already"! But fact is I am still over 60 so if I post, it is not unreasonable to do so. And as time goes by, I actually get older and do more emphatically feel that there is actually ageist thinking that the Over 60s Peeps do get put on them that makes them feel life is getting harder. It does make life harder in terms of "...life get(s) harder with finances, security, depression, anxiety and loneliness...".
I think my healthcare providers don't give me the attention I believe I need. One might suggest that I'm expecting more than I need, but then the provider or anyone who believes that should speak up and discuss it with me. At home, I've expierenced what to me is ageist thinking as well bc I am perceived as someone with special needs that are more in line with being old and pathetic than needing medical care that any younger person would go and get. My body does hurt more now than 20 years ago. Is an older person expected to just shut up and take it?
Once again, people might suggest... that maybe i am being overly sensitive... But when people make assumptions or if a person is left feeling assumptions are being made, and there is no conversation about it, that should suggest that the person in question is being neglected to some degree. I think that as one gets older... and all the more when they are over 60... 70... and so on, they do need more care and attention. That does not mean necessarily rushing them to the doctor but perhaps like making sure to say things like "good morning" or "how are you doing today". or talking about politics ro current events or whatever... and if that is not happening, it does make life harder. It does make "symptoms" more likely to appear. the more life gets harder, the less one properly attends to things like finances, security etc and does experience the above mentioned feelings about them. They are still expected to take care of their "affairs". It is hard to pay bills when you are sad.
It is difficult to identify who is to "blame" or where responsibility lies. An older person may not be taking responsibility when she/he/they/itt should. Or it might be - that individual is in too much distress. Yet we all live in a society that demands that a person be an "individual" and do things for themselves and I think that 'ethic' may be over emphasized to the extent that people do reach a point of not getting appropriate care and attention that any person or any living creature actually needs. I think this is something that society as a whole needs to address if there is a desire to make a more compassionat society. Seems to me to be a worthy goal. 👩🦳
I think my healthcare providers don't give me the attention I believe I need. One might suggest that I'm expecting more than I need, but then the provider or anyone who believes that should speak up and discuss it with me. At home, I've expierenced what to me is ageist thinking as well bc I am perceived as someone with special needs that are more in line with being old and pathetic than needing medical care that any younger person would go and get. My body does hurt more now than 20 years ago. Is an older person expected to just shut up and take it?
Once again, people might suggest... that maybe i am being overly sensitive... But when people make assumptions or if a person is left feeling assumptions are being made, and there is no conversation about it, that should suggest that the person in question is being neglected to some degree. I think that as one gets older... and all the more when they are over 60... 70... and so on, they do need more care and attention. That does not mean necessarily rushing them to the doctor but perhaps like making sure to say things like "good morning" or "how are you doing today". or talking about politics ro current events or whatever... and if that is not happening, it does make life harder. It does make "symptoms" more likely to appear. the more life gets harder, the less one properly attends to things like finances, security etc and does experience the above mentioned feelings about them. They are still expected to take care of their "affairs". It is hard to pay bills when you are sad.
It is difficult to identify who is to "blame" or where responsibility lies. An older person may not be taking responsibility when she/he/they/itt should. Or it might be - that individual is in too much distress. Yet we all live in a society that demands that a person be an "individual" and do things for themselves and I think that 'ethic' may be over emphasized to the extent that people do reach a point of not getting appropriate care and attention that any person or any living creature actually needs. I think this is something that society as a whole needs to address if there is a desire to make a more compassionat society. Seems to me to be a worthy goal. 👩🦳